Article: The Quinn Hughes Trade Finally Gives the Minnesota Wild "Christmas Morning"

[goenzoy]

1 hour ago, MNCountryLife said:

I am okay with Ohgren,  a first and even Rossi... but not Buium.

But in the end it is a amazing trade also for Rossi 

During summer when nobody did an offershets he was flagged as " with no trade value "  and now Quinn Hughes stands on the other side of the ledger . Yes I do know that 3 other players are involved but Ohgren stands with zero points right now .The first rounder was already involved during summer ( pick 15 ) and Canucks might not even keep Buium and hand it over to Red Wings as  his brother does play for Grand Rapids 

[goenzoy]

1 hour ago, SkolWild73 said:

Since Rossi last played, we are 10-2-1. 

Well maybe but a lot is down to goalies 

Gus highly motivated because Olympic s is coming up and Wallstedt outstanding maybe even the new Henrik Lundqvist

Plus no D-man injured and Zuccarello return 

[MNCountryLife]

4 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

in the end it is a amazing trade also for Rossi

I am actually happy for Rossi.   He will get a lot of minutes on a top line for a team that will want to keep him.  He will thrive.  All 3 will see a jump in minutes.

All 3 are RFAs.  So will likely stay on Vancouver for a while.

[Pablo]

2 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

For a year and a half...  that's it... short window and a big gamble that he signs an extension. 

BG gets the extension...I will feel a lot better....

BG could always buy his brother’s. 3 Hughes are better than no Hughes. 

[Pewterschmidt]

6 hours ago, IllicitFive said:

hunt, jiricek( if he progresses)

Getting hunt back softens the blow on the Jiri Project ™️ stunted development.  Hunt is our Merrill 2.0

[Pewterschmidt]

6 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

I guess GMBG is good with Yurov  at Center. (Trading Rossi)

Everyone but Mateo knew Rossi was dead man walkin’.  And yes Mateo.  Yes I accept your apology.  

[Pewterschmidt]

6 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

For a year and a half...  that's it... short window and a big gamble that he signs an extension. 

BG gets the extension...I will feel a lot better....

So now the question is what trade protection does Q have thru’26/27 season?

[Teeroy]

9 hours ago, Teeroy said:

Bad.... that's all I got!!

After a bit more thought I'll say IF the Wild are able to resign him then the trade is fair

[Fezig]

I've said it before (on a different story) and I'll say this again. It reminds me of the Herschel Walker trade the Vikings made in 89. Sometimes you can give up too much for premier talent. 

Billy put all of his chips in for this hand he's playing. Nothing less than the Cup will do.

[Dean]

Wow Billy did something big. Maybe a left handed d man isn’t a glaring need compared to other issues but damn. A 26 year old Norris offensive d man. I think something like 400   pts in 400 games . A legit elite player. Captain presence. These kind of players don’t get traded at this age. It’s  the big swing this organization needed.   It also says Billy really is in win now mode. He’s done f ing around.  I’m guessing he’s got more up his sleeve because he’s got a year to prove something to Quinn 

   As far as cost. We gave up good players for elite. Zeev isn’t going to win the Norris by 26. He also isn’t going to be good enough in next few years to win you playoff rounds with his d .  Rossi has proven he’s good not elite. And ohgren who knows. . Hughes  brings legitimacy to this franchise. 
   I thought Billy f d up at first with paying 4 1sts basically and not having long term contract for Quinn. However if he doesn’t resign he can be traded . You definitely will get something good back but not what Billy paid   However that’s the risk Billy needs to take to take a step with this team .  Waiting around for good and average players to hopefully become elite doesn’t work with kappys age .  
   Billy needs to keep going and solidify the forwards   Billy needs to empty the cupboards and get a center and a scorer 

 

[TCMooch]

10 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

If on Christmas, the neighbor stole my brand new bicycle that was exactly what I wanted and replaced it with his smaller, older, more expensive bike that is faster today, but likely to break down sooner...and stole half of my gift cards too...then I guess it's like Christmas.

I have no doubt that Quinn Hughes is dynamic offensively, but I have no idea how good he is on defense. He was certainly one of the better players from a really mediocre draft, but Buium's future should be incredible.

I feel like I got the old version of something I really wanted instead of the new upgraded version, and it cost me far more than the new product. I suspect this trade will make the Wild better in the current season, and hurt their future.

I thought Guerin did a pretty solid job of building up assets, but I just don't know how this one is going to work out.

 

Buium could be anything! He could even be the next Quinn Hughes!

 Seriously the best Buium could be is Quinn Hughes. Hughes is literally the second best NHL Dman in the league right now who is 26 years old.

People hate the trade because Buium has a chance that he might develop into Hughes? 
 

Honestly the worst thing about this trade is if we don’t resign him and can’t get anything for him in a trade

[Imyourhuckleberry]

2 minutes ago, TCMooch said:

Seriously the best Buium could be is Quinn Hughes. Hughes is literally the second best NHL Dman in the league right now who is 26 years old.

People hate the trade because Buium has a chance that he might develop into Hughes? 
 

Honestly the worst thing about this trade is if we don’t resign him and can’t get anything for him in a trade

Quinn Hughes might be the 2nd best offensive defenseman. Not sure he should be in the top 5 of defensemen overall. I guess we'll see.

And yes, part of the issue is 4 players with team control versus one who could walk 1.6 seasons from now. I understand that Spurgeon's deal ends at the same time Quinn Hughes will need a large new contract, but that's also when Buium will likely be rapidly ascending, and might become the best defenseman in the league.

Buium isn't even that far behind the scoring pace for Quinn Hughes this season, Buium's first, and he was a more frequent scorer than Quinn Hughes prior to the NHL, with better NHL size.

We'll  have to see how the Wild bring in forwards when they now have a lot less to trade for potential help.

[Jon]

Well with the attitude a lot of fans have about Quinn Hughes and what he can bring right now, the fans don’t deserve a winning team much less a Cup winning team. If I were close to Quinn and knew what fans were saying about this trade, why would I want Quinn to stay? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t 

[Scalptrash]

Another butts in seats/ticket sales move. Why? Because the Wild just traded most of their young depth, the one thing they were sorely lacking. Hughes is literally a game changer, and as a whole, the Wild are better today than they were yesterday. Unfortunately they still haven’t addressed their biggest needs and are still missing pieces required to make deep playoff runs. A big 1C, another legitimate top 6 winger, and most importantly, depth. Old guys tend to get hurt a lot, for longer periods of time. 
It’s a great feel good move and the Wild may be as exciting to watch as Colorado or Edmonton now, but unless they re-sign Hughes, the window is too small. Too many other pieces are still needed to make a serious run. (see Edmonton this season, two of the best players in the world are not enough)

Regardless, I’m excited to watch the show. Hopefully the chemistry works, Hughes isn’t disgruntled and shuts down. Or some of the Wild players who were close with the departures aren’t too upset. 
Now, for the love of God, offer the C to Kaprizov, and if he declines, give it to Hughes. Enough of the mouse already. 

[FredJohnson]

10 hours ago, Beast said:

The high end #1 center isn’t coming, guys.  This is the next best thing.  I like the risk.

You're either on to something or on something. (I keed with that second part 😁) This can be a way to drive offense when GMBG knows his forwards can't 

[mnfaninnc]

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, everywhere you go.......

I think I've changed my mind on Hughes after reading a bit on him. Essentially, he is rated average defensively. We should be able to acclimate an "average" defender into the group. He does it differently by using skating, stick work and skill to defend. Sounds a little like Brodin. Will he get walked? Yes, but nobody is perfect! We will need to embrace that weakness with the upside.

Hughes offers a gamebreaker on the back end potential. I say "potential" because he clearly does not fit in Hynes' box. Like Kaprizov and Boldy, if anyone lays a finger on Hughes, the other team needs to be separated from their star player. 

The question here remains, can Hynes coach a player this talented and let him play to his strengths? This is where I lose a little confidence, Hynes is not a run and gun guy, and he doesn't believe in scoring yourself out of trouble. He likes tight checking, low event, hockey. Well, we're about to get high event hockey in all 3 zones! Does this mean Hynesy gets replaced? Could Pete DeBoer do more with this lineup? Is there a more creative coach out there that can let these guys, especially the skilled ones play to their strengths?

So, here is the skinny on the resigning front: Hughes is an UFA at the end of the 26-27 season. He is the first born of 3 brothers. He was born in Orlando, they moved to New Hampshire but they spend their offseasons in Michigan. To me, this would indicate that perhaps the "big city life" is not that important to them. I would consider that maybe Quinn can convince the other 2 brothers to want to be here. 

With that, the Wild now become the team that can offer him an 8 year deal if he signs before September 15th. It seems to me that this is a pretty good advantage over other teams who could only give him a 6 year deal in UFA. If Quinn takes the 8, could his other brothers follow him? Just in family dynamics, sometimes the oldest brother has a lot of pull!

Guerin cannot sit back, put his feet up on the desk, hands behind his head an relax. There are other moves that now must be made, other moves that may involve some guys who have been here awhile. He's also got to pay specific attention on how Hynes will change his system overnight. 

I do believe we could use another true center, but am not disappointed with Yurov and Eriksson Ek. We do not have a 2nd line, especially if we have to load up on the top line. We don't really have anyone internally that can backfill in the 2nd line too. 

That brings us to what's coming. Charlie Stramel, Rieger Lorenz, Ryder Ritchie. These guys are in the college system not Iowa. Ritchie looks like he has plateaued, perhaps he's injured? Stramel and Lorenz should be out of college after this season. Could they be ready to make the jump into the bottom 6? Nobody else's stats look like they're ready, in fact, some of them look like they've regressed, if that were even possible!

So, what it looks like is the Wild will be selling picks and players in the system to get what they need. They're going to have to trade for these guys, and from what it would appear, it looks like Guerin will be concentrating his efforts on guys in the 25 year old age range. 

I'm expecting a lot more news coming with changes to this team. I also read that the '26 1st is not lottery protected. One other important piece of information from other sources: NJ and Washington both had offers on the table that were acceptable to Vancouver. Guerin had to win a bidding war. Would anyone expect that Hughes being available would not produce a bidding war? So, the price we gave up meant getting the player, one who Guerin obviously coveted. While it was a lot, he got his man. Now let's see if it works!

[FredJohnson]

13 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

We have to sign him long term to make it worth it

Or get something for him next year.

[MNCountryLife]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

Guerin cannot sit back, put his feet up on the desk, hands behind his head an relax. There are other moves that now must be made, other moves that may involve some guys who have been here awhile. He's also got to pay specific attention on how Hynes will change his system overnight

Great comment.    Our timeline just got shortened.    One more big move is likely needed to put us in position for a cup run

[MNCountryLife]

3 hours ago, Jon said:

with the attitude a lot of fans have about Quinn Hughes and what he can bring right now, the fans don’t deserve a winning team much less a Cup winning team. If I were close to Quinn and knew what fans were saying about this trade, why would I want Quinn to stay? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t

I don't think anyone on this board has knocked on Hughes and what he brings to the table.   The concern on the trade is whether or not Hughes will resign with the Wild.... and it is a valid concern.  I also believe Buiun is a special player..... and was a lot to give up. 

[FredJohnson]

13 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

Oh-Oh-Oh-O'Reilly?!

You have that commercial stuck in your head now. You're welcome!

[Quebec1648]

I was supportive of trading Rossi as part of a Brady Tkachuk deal, but Hughes is good enough that I can go along with this deal. Giving up Zeev was a big gamble, but maybe the cannucks GM insisted he be the key guy in a deal.

The Wild owner wanted Christmas in July, so perhaps Guerin felt he had to get the deal done. I would have tried to keep Buium and convince Vancouver to take someone else like Lambos, but it's understandable they would insist on Buium if they are giving up Hughes. In that case, I would try and keep the 1st round pick.

The only reservations stemming from this deal, would be getting Hughes to stay long term, and hoping we have enough prospects left to trade for a top 6 forward. Even with Hughes in the fold, I would still like to add Brady Tkachuk.

Another option, is to see if maybe New Jersey would trade Luke Hughes to the Wild?