manbearpig Verified Member Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 11 hours ago, MNCountryLife said: Zeev doesn't look as comfortable with Bogo as he did with Hunt. That isn't a knock on Bogo either. I thought he played pretty well I wonder if he got a talking to maybe just play great defense, learn and then do your offensive stuff after he becomes better at defense. Hes got plenty of time to score goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezig Verified Member Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 After a horrendous first month of the season, the defense turned it around in November. I'm not saying both goalies didn't play incredibly well, but the defense does need an acknowledgement also. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 17 hours ago, mnfaninnc said: I don't think that The Wall will end up commanding a giant raise after next season, so the numbers should be reasonable again. It's the next contract after that where we'll really have to pay him, and that's about when Guus' contract expires. It'll be interesting to see what happens with his next contract. He's an RFA so that obviously gives the team some leverage it didn't have with Gus, who would've been a UFA I believe, but also.. if he's playing better than Gus by that point, it'll be hard to tell him he needs to take less money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raithis Verified Member Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 21 hours ago, mnfaninnc said: This would be the wrong move. This is where the eye test comes in. If you watch The Wall, he is bigger in the net than Guus, he's got a better glove hand, and, probably the most important thing, his rebound control is much better. He also finds pucks and anticipates better than Guus. Guus works fine in this system, but he is really an average to above average goalie. Our defensive system really helps him out. The Wall, however, is an average goalie now with franchise goalie potential. You don't trade those guys out. I don't think that The Wall will end up commanding a giant raise after next season, so the numbers should be reasonable again. It's the next contract after that where we'll really have to pay him, and that's about when Guus' contract expires. At that point, or a year ahead of that, we should have Vaj ready to back up, or we go and get one. I'm not advocating trading him. I'm just saying that if a move is made in the near future, Gustavsson's clauses make it more likely that Wallstedt is the one that is moved. I also don't think Guerin values goalies as much as he does other things, so I could see him viewing Wallstedt more as an asset to make the team better by trading him out than as an asset to team by keeping him here. It would be a bad move unless we could get a young, emerging 1C that also has franchise potential out of it, but those players are about as available as goalies with franchise potential. It would take the right trade, and I'm not confident that that would ever be reality so it would be bad trade for the Wild in almost all cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Verified Member Posted November 25, 2025 Share Posted November 25, 2025 I don’t know if I was one of the “doubters,” but I did say they couldn’t turn over more starts to him until he proved it wasn’t just a flash in the pan. He wasn’t great in Iowa. He shut me up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Share Posted November 26, 2025 On 11/24/2025 at 6:41 PM, Enforceror said: Generally I agree however I think he has some work to do still on rebound control. A lot of shots (see vs. Winnipeg) that just bounced off of him. Our defenders really shined in that game otherwise the outcome could have been drastically different. From what I saw, there were rebounds but they were deadened and kind of right in front of The Wall. He kicked one out to the side once, but it was well placed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Share Posted November 26, 2025 On 11/25/2025 at 10:01 AM, B1GKappa97 said: if he's playing better than Gus by that point, it'll be hard to tell him he needs to take less money... and that's just part of the unfairness of being an RFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Share Posted November 26, 2025 23 hours ago, raithis said: I also don't think Guerin values goalies as much as he does other things, so I could see him viewing Wallstedt more as an asset to make the team better by trading him out than as an asset to team by keeping him here. I disagree, I think Guerin does value goalies, but he has no idea how to scout them or pick them. I do think The Wall is safe mainly because Guerin drafted him pretty high, and had to give up an extra pick to get him. Guerin is convinced that The Wall has franchise goalie potential, and he built these new guys from the back to the front. It would make 0 sense to trade him out. Plus, I think he sees what I see with an untrained eye: Guus is an average goalie in a very goalie friendly system. The Wall hasn't been in a goalie friendly system in the pros yet. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNCountryLife Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Share Posted November 26, 2025 2 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: I disagree, I think Guerin does value goalies, but he has no idea how to scout them or pick them. I do think The Wall is safe mainly because Guerin drafted him pretty high, and had to give up an extra pick to get him. Guerin is convinced that The Wall has franchise goalie potential, and he built these new guys from the back to the front. It would make 0 sense to trade him out. Plus, I think he sees what I see with an untrained eye: Guus is an average goalie in a very goalie friendly system. The Wall hasn't been in a goalie friendly system in the pros yet. I was trying to write that... you said it better. 🍻 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raithis Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Share Posted November 26, 2025 19 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: I disagree, I think Guerin does value goalies, but he has no idea how to scout them or pick them. I do think The Wall is safe mainly because Guerin drafted him pretty high, and had to give up an extra pick to get him. Guerin is convinced that The Wall has franchise goalie potential, and he built these new guys from the back to the front. It would make 0 sense to trade him out. Plus, I think he sees what I see with an untrained eye: Guus is an average goalie in a very goalie friendly system. The Wall hasn't been in a goalie friendly system in the pros yet. Fair counterpoint. That said, I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence. Both Gustavsson and Wallstedt play on the same team in front of the same defenders. I agree that Wallstedt has a higher ceiling and will likely* end up being better than Gustavsson and seems to have more ability to steal games, but they are both benefitting from the same system. * Wallstedt already does a lot of things better, but it's probably premature to interpret his recent play as indicative over what the Wild would get out of him each season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Verified Member Posted November 27, 2025 Share Posted November 27, 2025 11 hours ago, MNCountryLife said: I was trying to write that... you said it better. 🍻 Yes! BG has stated straight up that he wants a fresh #1a or #1b between the pipes every game. Id bet on a 45/37 game split this season if both are healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted November 27, 2025 Share Posted November 27, 2025 21 hours ago, raithis said: That said, I'm not sure what you mean by your last sentence. To date, The Wall has yet to play in a system that is friendly to goalies. He's had bad defense for 3 straight A seasons, so we don't really know what he can do in a goalie friendly system for a whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted November 28, 2025 Share Posted November 28, 2025 On 11/24/2025 at 8:59 AM, MrCheatachu said: Deja Vu...I remember commenters on this board suggested the Calder candidate the wild had was KK. Kappo Kahkonen not Kirill Kaprizov. Nobody was talking about Kaapo being a serious Calder trophy candidate. If you look at what the Wall is doing right now, it’s completely different because he’s leading the league in SV%, GAA and Shut outs. There is absolutely no comparison between these two players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 On 11/24/2025 at 10:55 AM, FredJohnson said: Jesper Wallstedt Is Shutting Out the Doubters To be fair…there were a lot of reasons to doubt him last season. If you really understand how bad our defense was in Iowa you would have given a large amount of slack. Now looking back ppl understand how bad our Iowa team was. This situation reminds me so much for some reason with what’s going on in EDM. They have been looking for a goalie for the last 10 or more years now and are convinced it’s been the goalie all along. I don’t think the issue is the goalie, I think their team, especially their defenders don’t defend and that’s always been the issue. They put all their energy in offense and think the goalie is just going to bail them out every game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 15 hours ago, Mateo3xm said: If you really understand how bad our defense was in Iowa you would have given a large amount of slack. Now looking back ppl understand how bad our Iowa team was. This situation reminds me so much for some reason with what’s going on in EDM. They have been looking for a goalie for the last 10 or more years now and are convinced it’s been the goalie all along. I don’t think the issue is the goalie, I think their team, especially their defenders don’t defend and that’s always been the issue. They put all their energy in offense and think the goalie is just going to bail them out every game. Absolutely. There just wasn't a lot of concrete knowledge about the situation at the time. With uncertainty comes doubt... doubt intransitive verb To waver in opinion or judgment; to be in uncertainty as to belief respecting anything; to hesitate in belief; to be undecided as to the truth of the negative or the affirmative proposition; to b e undetermined. To suspect; to fear; to be apprehensive. transitive verb To question or hold questionable; to withhold assent to; to hesitate to believe, or to be inclined not to believe; to withhold confidence from; to distrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted November 29, 2025 Share Posted November 29, 2025 15 hours ago, Mateo3xm said: If you really understand how bad our defense was in Iowa you would have given a large amount of slack. Now looking back ppl understand how bad our Iowa team was. This situation reminds me so much for some reason with what’s going on in EDM. They have been looking for a goalie for the last 10 or more years now and are convinced it’s been the goalie all along. I don’t think the issue is the goalie, I think their team, especially their defenders don’t defend and that’s always been the issue. They put all their energy in offense and think the goalie is just going to bail them out every game. Also, I've been one of the most frequent posters pointing at Dezy Moinez as a weakness for our franchise. (Sorry if y'all are sick of it/me 🤮). We keep hearing about the great drafts but very few guys are getting better in the A and even fewer find their way to St Paul and stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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