Article: Trading Danila Yurov Would Be A Massive Mistake For the Wild

[Robert Brent]

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[Citizen Strife]

Russo said the most likely trades that would happen would be Hartman, Spurgeon, or Brodin first.  Ohgren would probably go before Yurov does.

I think the article is needlessly stirring up controversy.  Rossi and Yurov aren't going anywhere.  If they were, they would have been traded by now.

 

[Will D. Ness]

Yurov is looking pretty good.  I like Rossi but if I had to choose between Rossi and Yurov... I might just lay my chips on Yurov.  I know it sounds crazy but Yurov could be some form of Barkov?

Maybe I should dial it back... could he be Ek 2.0?

[Pewterschmidt]

35 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

most likely trades that would happen would be Hartman, Spurgeon, or Brodin first.

I wouldn’t lose sleep parting with any of these three.  They’re all past their wild expiration date.   Brodin would get the most return imo.  I’d be shocked if spurgeon has much market value at his age and size.   And Guerin loves presenting silver stick to retiring players

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Trading Yurov for any of those players would be ridiculous unless the Wild would be getting high picks in return. He could have Robert Thomas value, so if you aren't getting a player in their prime or near it, who can deliver at that level, then you simply don't trade him.

[MNCountryLife]

Yurov is getting better every game.  He could be the new Stamkos.  You don't trade him for a has been.  If he heads out the door we better get a big return.  Maybe BG can get his picks back from the Jiricek trade.

[MNCountryLife]

Mids has value.  Big physical guy that plays loads of minutes.  Teams want his size and compete level when playoffs start.  At only 29 we could see a solid return.  

[MNCountryLife]

With the step up of Hunt's play we have an extra D man.  BG should be evaluating the value of what each D man can potentially return against what this team needs.  

[mnfaninnc]

I'm interested in Kyrou and Tuch, I think both can help the team. Yurov is not on the table for them however. Ohgren would be on the table, but prospects, to me, are not guys already on the roster. Injury callups count. 

MNCL is right about Hartman, Spurgeon and Brodin, they need to go first. 

I know in the other thread we were talking about Kempe's contract. I would consider Kyrou a pretty good comparable with Kempe. This contract probably adds the best long term value of the guys mentioned. I do think Tuch is the better fit for what we need, though. One thing I find interesting in this is that Tuch hasn't resigned with his hometown team yet. So, what is he looking for?

As for prospects, we've got Haight, Heidt, Lambos, Ohgren, Spacek, Bankier. That's a lot of guys who we can trade with, plus we've got draft picks, like a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

We're about at the 20 game mark, now we should have an idea where the deficiencies are. We've had an audition of Buium-Faber and it went well for 2 games. So, I do think an older defenseman could be dealt. I'd prefer Spurgy.

[goenzoy]

3 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Trading Yurov for any of those players would be ridiculous unless the Wild would be getting high picks in return

Now after 100 stories about  Rossi trades we start over again and do the same with Yurov ?

This team does have a shortage of centers so what exactly is the point ? 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

As for prospects, we've got Haight, Heidt, Lambos, Ohgren, Spacek, Bankier. That's a lot of guys who we can trade with, plus we've got draft picks, like a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

Ryder Ritchie might have more value than all of those guys with some potential for line 2 given his offensive talents, but hard to say for sure at his age. I'd put Ohgren ahead of all of them today due to his likelihood to have a 2-way game, but he's certainly not shown elite forward skill to this point.

Ogre could still elevate his game, but he and Stramel may never make it above line 3. I could see Haight and Bankier at line 3 or 4 down the road.

I'll still give Lambos a shot at 2nd pair, but seems like he may end up 3rd pairing.

Heidt either develops his game a lot and becomes a capable play driver for line 2 or has to adjust into something like a Dewar line 4 role. I don't see him on line 3. Spacek might make 3rd pairing someday.

[mnfaninnc]

13 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Ryder Ritchie might have more value than all of those guys with some potential for line 2 given his offensive talents, but hard to say for sure at his age. I'd put Ohgren ahead of all of them today due to his likelihood to have a 2-way game, but he's certainly not shown elite forward skill to this point.

Ogre could still elevate his game, but he and Stramel may never make it above line 3. I could see Haight and Bankier at line 3 or 4 down the road.

I'll still give Lambos a shot at 2nd pair, but seems like he may end up 3rd pairing.

Heidt either develops his game a lot and becomes a capable play driver for line 2 or has to adjust into something like a Dewar line 4 role. I don't see him on line 3. Spacek might make 3rd pairing someday.

I'd forgotten about Ritchie. But the point remains, don't mess with the guys on the roster now (youth), work your highly rated prospect pool and the older vets. When we traded Zucker, it was an older vet and futures. When we traded Fiala, our cap position meant we didn't need the vet + it was summer so the cap wasn't that big of a deal for the Kings either. We got futures. 

These are examples of what happens all the time in the NHL. 1 team gets the really good player and usually wins the trade. The other team gets futures and hope. If they get an NHL rostered player, it's usually a player that's a cap dump like Galchenyuk was. 

But, more to your point, don't wait too long to trade out these guys, you've got to trade out the guys while there's still excitement about their potential.

[Dis-allowed display name]

Agree with the article.  You can't keep trading away all your young guys for old guys until you know what you have.  I understand trading away hype that you think won't turn out to be much, but I don't think Yurov is that guy.  

I also think the best case from those players listed as trade targets maybe get us out of round 1.  I think Yurov's value is higher than winning one series this year.  

But if trading Yurov is the way BG is going to continue to run this team, then they should ONLY pick decent college players like Buium, Faber, or Boldy that they can instantly jump to the NHL because the  just don't have any patience or developmental ability to ever get a young player from juniors or anywhere else to the NHL.

[raithis]

19 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

One thing I find interesting in this is that Tuch hasn't resigned with his hometown team yet. So, what is he looking for?

What I keep seeing is that he wants a long deal.  I've heard reports that he is looking for up to $12M a year for 8yrs and Buffalo doesn't want to pay him that much for that long.  I don't know how credible any of that is though.  He definitely seems like we wants up into 8 figures a year or he'd probably be signed already.

He'd be a good player, but I'm not sure about paying him that much for that long.

[MNCountryLife]

I read articles like this and I think of Brent Burns and Alex Tuch.  Young players that we should have found a way to keep.  Granlund, Coyle and Nino were all players that have left and had solid careers.  I liked the Granlund trade as we picked up a sniper.  You don't trade away snipers.  You trade for them.  So rare to find a pure goal scorer like Fiala.  As much as I like Faber ... still an ouch.

Consider this: Traded down from Brent Burns to Coyle.  Traded  down again for Donato.  Traded down again for 3rd round pick.  A 20th pick in the 1st round turned into a 3rd round pick by the Wild.  The epitome of poor trades over several years.

[Will D. Ness]

51 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

Consider this: Traded down from Brent Burns to Coyle.  Traded  down again for Donato.  Traded down again for 3rd round pick.  A 20th pick in the 1st round turned into a 3rd round pick by the Wild.  The epitome of poor trades over several years.

Wow... way to put it in perspective.

[1Brotherbill]

Everyone is going to be high on Yurov after this game.  All the coments about how he should have always been top line center and how BG doesn't know what he's doing keeping him in Iowa, blah, blah, blah.  

He had a good game.

[mnfaninnc]

22 hours ago, raithis said:

What I keep seeing is that he wants a long deal.  I've heard reports that he is looking for up to $12M a year for 8yrs and Buffalo doesn't want to pay him that much for that long.  I don't know how credible any of that is though.  He definitely seems like we wants up into 8 figures a year or he'd probably be signed already.

He'd be a good player, but I'm not sure about paying him that much for that long.

$12m is a lot of money. Is he trying to cash in on the Kapflation™️ that Kaprizov's contract has provided? Or, is that the cost of business for a Buffalo team that appears to be going nowhere?

It would seem that if a team were to trade for Tuch, they'd also need an extension in hand. Perhaps Kyrou is the better choice. A little younger and with some decent term.

[FredJohnson]

This team has been so bankrupt of centers, even decent centers, it baffles me that anyone even thinks about trading one away.

[raithis]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

$12m is a lot of money. Is he trying to cash in on the Kapflation™️ that Kaprizov's contract has provided? Or, is that the cost of business for a Buffalo team that appears to be going nowhere?

It would seem that if a team were to trade for Tuch, they'd also need an extension in hand. Perhaps Kyrou is the better choice. A little younger and with some decent term.

Unsure, but everything I've seen indicates he would like to stay with Buffalo and Buffalo would like to keep him, but the main sticking point is money.  Whether than price tag goes down elsewhere, I've no idea.  It just really looks like he wants to cash in on what may be the last big contract of his career.