Article: Is Jordan Kyrou A Big Enough Fish For the Wild To Reel In?

[FredJohnson]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

Sounds like Kevin Fiala. 👍

[OldDutchChip]

11 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

They're healthy scratching Kyrou...shouldn't he be cheap?

no harm in trying - trenin + ohgren + jiricek (they love big defensemen) - we can even ask them retain some money too and take back vlady

[FredJohnson]

2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

no harm in trying

Zactly

[Scalptrash]

St. Louis won't trade one of the their best players to a division foe, unless they grossly over pay (Billy is the perfect sucker for that scenario). 

Kyrou will never accept a trade to a floundering bubble team. Why would he?

Does anyone honestly think that Guerin, Hynes, and the Wild in general, don't have a bad reputation in the NHL. Do you think good players want to risk their reputation or future and get buried in MN? Look at how Billy has handled Rossi. Even Kaprizov was mishandled. Players know MN won't have the money (or brains) to build a contender.

[mnfaninnc]

20 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

i don't think Wild have a 1st rounder in 2026? they traded it for a defensive stud....

as for pick on our prospect - it would be either Wally, Yurov or Zeev - which one do you want to move for Kyrou? none right? or maybe Yurov. and Rossi too. that's not smart to do for the Wild. especially giving up two Cs for one W. And i am fairly certain Rossi and a top prospect is needed for us to pry from division rival their star.

Yes, the Wild have their '26 1st. They traded their '25 1st which was a down draft. 

I think we have a different definition of "prospect." The definition I was using was players who are not currently on the roster. That would take out The Wall, Yurov, Zeev and Rossi. It would be in the Haight, Heidt, Spacek, Lambos category. While older, I'd consider Cal Peterson to be one of those guys. 

The typical formula for this type of thing is pick+prospect+rostered player. The rostered player is a cap dump many times, or, in our case, a $4m player. I would be ok trading someone like Hartman or Tarasenko + Heidt + '26 1st top 15 protected. I could sub out Heidt for Lambos. Lambos should be up here now, but Hunt blocked him (which I don't mind), which means he could be ready to enter their lineup. Binnington is a disaster, and grabbing Peterson or Vaj might be something they're considering.

[mnfaninnc]

19 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

Sounds like Kevin Fiala. 👍

I think Fiala had a little lower center of gravity, but it is kind of like a right handed Fiala and may play out that way.

[OldDutchChip]

32 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

Yes, the Wild have their '26 1st. They traded their '25 1st which was a down draft. 

I think we have a different definition of "prospect." The definition I was using was players who are not currently on the roster. That would take out The Wall, Yurov, Zeev and Rossi. It would be in the Haight, Heidt, Spacek, Lambos category. While older, I'd consider Cal Peterson to be one of those guys. 

The typical formula for this type of thing is pick+prospect+rostered player. The rostered player is a cap dump many times, or, in our case, a $4m player. I would be ok trading someone like Hartman or Tarasenko + Heidt + '26 1st top 15 protected. I could sub out Heidt for Lambos. Lambos should be up here now, but Hunt blocked him (which I don't mind), which means he could be ready to enter their lineup. Binnington is a disaster, and grabbing Peterson or Vaj might be something they're considering.

Hartman is a no go for me. Vlady - sure.

but why would blues do this? They can wait it out and trade him later too

i just don’t see them biting on such a low ball offer 

[mnfaninnc]

6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Hartman is a no go for me. Vlady - sure.

but why would blues do this? They can wait it out and trade him later too

i just don’t see them biting on such a low ball offer

It's not really low ball, it's the normal NHL trade formula. pick+prospect+player. That's been done for quite awhile and is a GMs go to formula. In this case, I'd actually be fine with pick+2prospects+player.

Hartman or Vlady would be the cap dump player to make the deal cap compliant. The rest are futures.

This is how the contending teams go from playoff teams, they trade futures for now even though those futures may not look really good right now. They see a prospect they can make into a player. 

This is exactly what Guerin did with Zucker. You get to choose the prospect from a list, and it might not be their better ones. He chose poorly in Addison. Galchenyuk was merely the cap dump, and the 1st was to be turned into the future player who makes a significant contribution. 

In the Fiala deal, Guerin didn't need the cap player, especially since it was the offseason. So he probably got the pick and to choose from a better tier of players. LA wasn't trading Clarke, but would trade someone in the tier below. Faber, who I believe had been heavily scouted, was taken from the lower tier. I also believe that deal was already finished before Guerin had talked about Dumba and a hot month of Fiala. He got what he could from a player who had no intention of signing long term with the club, likely due to climate. 

[Mateo3xm]

On 11/13/2025 at 8:40 AM, OldDutchChip said:

Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

 

I don’t think it realistically happens to be honest. But I think it would be dumb to get rid of Yurov for him. Did you hear teams are reaching out to Buffalo to see if Tage Thompson is available? Apparently a few teams have. Adam’s response has been the same though, not available at this time.

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

It's not really low ball, it's the normal NHL trade formula. pick+prospect+player. That's been done for quite awhile and is a GMs go to formula. In this case, I'd actually be fine with pick+2prospects+player.

Hartman or Vlady would be the cap dump player to make the deal cap compliant. The rest are futures.

This is how the contending teams go from playoff teams, they trade futures for now even though those futures may not look really good right now. They see a prospect they can make into a player. 

This is exactly what Guerin did with Zucker. You get to choose the prospect from a list, and it might not be their better ones. He chose poorly in Addison. Galchenyuk was merely the cap dump, and the 1st was to be turned into the future player who makes a significant contribution. 

In the Fiala deal, Guerin didn't need the cap player, especially since it was the offseason. So he probably got the pick and to choose from a better tier of players. LA wasn't trading Clarke, but would trade someone in the tier below. Faber, who I believe had been heavily scouted, was taken from the lower tier. I also believe that deal was already finished before Guerin had talked about Dumba and a hot month of Fiala. He got what he could from a player who had no intention of signing long term with the club, likely due to climate. 

Zucker is not Kyrou

Kyrou has averaged 35 goals per year the previous 3 years

He is arguably their best player

So why would they be willing to ship him to their rival for literally nothing?

High first? Vlady? and Haight? this is not going to fly. 

Guerin got lucky once with Faber and saved his ass a bit, but realistically this could have been a fleecing by LA. Armstrong is smarter than Bill. 

 

[mnfaninnc]

5 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Zucker is not Kyrou

This is absolutely true, but it doesn't change the typical NHL formula. 

Kyrou was offered to Kraken for 8th overall this past draft. I don't know why it fell through but it might have been Kyrou who nixed it. 

[OldDutchChip]

24 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

I don’t think it realistically happens to be honest. But I think it would be dumb to get rid of Yurov for him. Did you hear teams are reaching out to Buffalo to see if Tage Thompson is available? Apparently a few teams have. Adam’s response has been the same though, not available at this time.

right, i would hesitate to include Yurov in the offer and think it'll take at least him for Armstrong to consider it

Yeah - Buffalo is a dump again....but again realistically what will it take to pry Tage?

would it require this type of package? 

Zeev + Trenin + Vlady for Tage + Byram .... 

🤔 

[mnfaninnc]

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

Zeev + Trenin + Vlady for Tage + Byram ....

please explain the cap compliance here.

[OldDutchChip]

Just now, mnfaninnc said:

This is absolutely true, but it doesn't change the typical NHL formula. 

Kyrou was offered to Kraken for 8th overall this past draft. I don't know why it fell through but it might have been Kyrou who nixed it. 

i can't recall the last time a star (in his prime) was traded to a division rival....or what that took. be curious to know 🙂

 

 

[OldDutchChip]

2 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

please explain the cap compliance here.

haha some salary retention & third team?

 

[mnfaninnc]

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

i can't recall the last time a star (in his prime) was traded to a division rival....or what that took. be curious to know 🙂

Also, according to the national sources, St. Louis is having trouble finding a dance partner, and Army typically does this type of thing to shake up the lineup. However, the guys he's trading seem to be getting younger and younger.

[mnfaninnc]

3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

haha some salary retention & third team?

That's some heavy lifting. We're trying to squeeze $9m into $4.5m in space. Just exactly which Wild executive are you crediting to be creative enough to get this to happen? Also, I'm absolutely positive that Vlady will not go to Buffalo. 

[mnfaninnc]

The sad part about this is that if the rumors are true that many players have blocked MN on their NTCs, Buffalo and CBJ might be the only sources where this would seem like light at the end of the tunnel. 

Kyrou could nix coming to us, though, it seems like he does like to score in our building.

[OldDutchChip]

4 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

That's some heavy lifting. We're trying to squeeze $9m into $4.5m in space. Just exactly which Wild executive are you crediting to be creative enough to get this to happen? Also, I'm absolutely positive that Vlady will not go to Buffalo. 

vlady can go to Buffalo, Iowa or back to FL 🙂 

Trenin is going to Buffalo so that's another 3.5

could Buffalo retain some money? or can we package our captain? return the favor for Pommy?

 

[mnfaninnc]

Just now, mnfaninnc said:

The sad part about this is that if the rumors are true that many players have blocked MN on their NTCs, Buffalo and CBJ might be the only sources where this would seem like light at the end of the tunnel. 

Kyrou could nix coming to us, though, it seems like he does like to score in our building.

I'll pull a P-shooter and quote myself- on this topic, this is 1 area where I think we can make some headway. The perception of MN is still boring 200' neutral zone trap hockey. Perhaps what is needed to help the kids is more fire wagon hockey? Ottawa was a terrible team, but to keep fans interested, they became a team that had a lot of goals scored for and against.

But that won't win, even as the kids progress. Fire wagon hockey would require a Celebrini or Benard. 

But we do have Kaprizov and Boldy. Tier 1 and tier 3 players. I think the Wild present their team as a boring team, and do not help themselves with marketing. 

A jersey redesign would help, but flash is really what is needed. Then, Kaprizov and Boldy need to really be marketed. Boldy shows up in one of the national adds for young guns "working from home." Kaprizov doesn't really do that sort of thing, but could he and Yurov do something for the Russian audience? 

I think the key here is marketing your stars and having outstanding packaging. We have not marketed nationwide, or even globally as a team. Is this something that a kid like Benak could help us with in Eastern Europe? 

Here's the main thing, the team needs more exposure outside of their market. They need more 97 and 12 jerseys floating around in other buildings. Changing the opinions of some players in Eastern Europe/Russia when they're young might change their minds about the area and team. It just takes a couple of real talented guys coming in wanting to be here. Faber and his 7 might also be marketed, and certainly Buium and 8. 

I think our marketing department has let this franchise down.