Article: Is Jordan Kyrou A Big Enough Fish For the Wild To Reel In?

[Tony Abbott]

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[Burnt Toast]

Kyrou’s 27 so that fits with KK’s timeline. The question is what players or picks would St. Louis want in trade that wouldn’t hurt the Wild these next few seasons? Probably a lot.  We could really use a “win the trade” moment about now. 

[Will D. Ness]

Beggars can't be choosers but I don't know.  Kyrou is soft.  He might even be softer than Nojo.  

Anyone remember that move Grapes put on Kyrou last year?

[OldDutchChip]

well kyrou would likely cost Rossi or Zeev - that's a no from me

if they want yurov and trenin/vladi and a pick for him - perhaps

but STL won't be trading us Kyrou for any crap that we have in IA - Kyrou scored more than Boldy the previous three years. averaging 35 goals. would we trade Boldy for STLs crap? nah probably not. so conclusion - unless you want to part with Rossi or Zeev - let's skip

 

[Citizen Strife]

If the options out there are Kadri, Panarin, or Kyrou, I'll take the younger guy.  We've seen teams constantly re-sign their top (and even mid-tier) guys in the last year or so.  This is one of those few opportunities to actually solve that Top 6 problem: a problem Zucc will age out of as early as next year.  Especially for a guy with stable money and term.

What I also wonder is if or when the Blues take the option away.  Tons of teams are in the same 20 team middle mess the Wild are.  If St Louis goes on another of those 15-20 game win streaks, you can screw that Kyrou trade idea away in a bin.

Is Kyrou the player you'd expect in a "big" trade?  Maybe not, but the team needs to get faster and younger.  He would fit the bill.  30 other teams won't balk at a Top-6 guy just cause "maybe possibly someday, a Top-3 is a dream option."

Edited November 13 by Citizen Strife

[TCMooch]

Can we trade them the one and only Jiricek???

 Because he’s totally a good player worth the assets we gave up for him. He just needs…another…change of scenery.

[Patrick]

Won't matter until KK wakes up and starts trying again. Hopefully we didn't just sign the next Kovalchuck....🤞

[1Brotherbill]

The question I have and it is a big one is why was he scratched?  It's a legit question to have.  

Kyrou would be a good fit on the team.  Instantly top six worthy which would make the 3rd line better and the 4th line as well.  He is 27 and is signed for five more years.  So it seems like a good idea.

What would you have to give up to get him.  Priority one is keeping the first round pick or getting St. Louis to swap picks.  Priority two is keep the top six of Kirill, Boldy, Rossi, Buium, Yurov, and Wallstedt.  Priority three keep the centers we have, not that they are great it's just that we need the few we have.  Priority four try and make the trade with just prospects.  If that means giving up Ohgren, Hiedt and Haight for Kyrou than do it.  

Reality is the Wild have about 4 million in cap space Kyrou makes 8.15 a year.  So, right now without moving a contract to St. Louis they would have to wait until mid season to get him.  If they could move Zucarello to St. Louis that would make up the difference.  We all know that isn't going to happen.  Brodin and Rossi are the only players that don't have restrictions and make enough money to make the difference.  I wouldn't mind of Brodin left as much as Rossi.  

[Thomas]

I think Zuccarello will get an extension for 1-2 years to finish his career in Minnesota, if he stays healthy this year and plays well. Wouldn't surprise me if he gets a front office job after that, though he's really engaged in youth hockey and fair play/ equal opportunities in Norway. Also, just a guess, he'd like his kids to grow up in Norway. Maybe some sort of scouting job in Europe, but then his history and standing in NYR is also a consideration.

[Mateo3xm]

12 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

well kyrou would likely cost Rossi or Zeev - that's a no from me

if they want yurov and trenin/vladi and a pick for him - perhaps

but STL won't be trading us Kyrou for any crap that we have in IA - Kyrou scored more than Boldy the previous three years. averaging 35 goals. would we trade Boldy for STLs crap? nah probably not. so conclusion - unless you want to part with Rossi or Zeev - let's skip

 

I’m thinking Ohgren would be the prospect and a first with maybe another mid player. They aren’t trading Rossi(because that would gut their already weak center depth) or Zeev(because his upside is far too high) Kyrou is 27 and Boldy is 24 so comparing what they did the last 3 years isn’t really comparable. Boldys upside May be higher in the next 3 yrs than Kyrou’s last three years.

[punch_cut]

The way Kyrou scores goals in MN he should demand to come here. He might end up scoring 85.

[OldDutchChip]

50 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

I’m thinking Ohgren would be the prospect and a first with maybe another mid player. They aren’t trading Rossi(because that would gut their already weak center depth) or Zeev(because his upside is far too high) Kyrou is 27 and Boldy is 24 so comparing what they did the last 3 years isn’t really comparable. Boldys upside May be higher in the next 3 yrs than Kyrou’s last three years.

Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

 

[Pewterschmidt]

6 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

 

He’s saying ogz + 1st + mid player for kyrou

[OldDutchChip]

14 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

He’s saying ogz + 1st + mid player for kyrou

The pick would have to be in 2027 and it would be in the 20s, assuming we are a better team w Kyrou

so I’m not seeing STL doing us a favor 

they will ask for more than Ohgren, 27 pick and Trenin/Vladi

 

[Lern2spell]

If im the Blues, I don't even listen to a conversation that doesn't start with a first, Hunter Haight, and Adam Benak. It will take at least one roster player also (as a salary or two would need to be exchanged to make it work). And all this depends on if/when the Blues decide its a lost season...

[Imyourhuckleberry]

It would be a little like bringing back Fiala. Not sure how a trade could come together. Ohgren and Jiricek would have some asset value, but it doesn't seem like they would prefer to trade Kyrou to a division opponent, so it probably costs more and the acquisition cost might be too high.

[Pewterschmidt]

Trading Jiri at this point would be an admission of failure which the thin skinned tough guy is loath to do.  Not to mention Guerin nearly literally traded an entire draft for this project so we’re going to watch the Jiri Project™️ for a couple more years

[Imyourhuckleberry]

The Athletic has a new story up, part of which is talking about Buium and Yurov gaining some trust throughout the organization.  The writers specifically indicated the 4th line of Foligno, Yurov, Trenin looking good, and I wanted to share a comment from Foligno on that.

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“Yurov, for you guys not knowing what type of player he was, and especially us too, a new guy coming over from Russia,” Foligno said. “But, man, the 200-foot game is real with that guy. He can skate. He’s got heads-up plays. He’s got aggression in his game. It’s fun. I’m loving it. He’s very supportive around the walls, and as a winger, it’s very easy to understand where he’s going to be.”

Looking forward to seeing more from Yurov as the season progresses.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Trading Jiri at this point would be an admission of failure which the thin skinned tough guy is loath to do.  Not to mention Guerin nearly literally traded an entire draft for this project so we’re going to watch the Jiri Project™️ for a couple more years

I don't agree with that. GMs can like players, but it's primarily about asset collection. Guerin thought that Jiricek was worth more than the assets he parted with, and that remains to be seen. Now that he's had a closer look, he may or may not still feel that way. I doubt they love him so much that they wouldn't trade him for a clear immediate and long-term upgrade in scoring, but they certainly wouldn't trade him in a deal with both him and Rossi for Kyrou.

Jiricek(still age 21) is likely going to be a long-term defenseman in the NHL, but we don't know which pairing and if he'll ever become better than Bogosian.

[Pewterschmidt]

6 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Now that he's had a closer look, he may or may not still feel that way.

My prediction is Guerin specific.  If the Jiri Project™️ is ultimately deemed a failure (not worth 1-4 rd picks + Hunt) it’ll be the next GM’s job to clean up the mess (ie trade Jiri).   Guerin will never admit it.  That means as long as Guerin is here, Jiri is here.  
 

Jiri needs to be a top pair (ok fine, top 4) for this trade not to be a FAIL. 

sort of like analyzing Fiala for Faber+ogz.  Is this one still a slam dunk win for Guerin?

[mnfaninnc]

I've got questions about Kyrou, but for me, it's probably him or Tuch.

Is Kyrou a defensive liability? Would he buy into a 200' game? Is he tough enough in the playoffs? Can he score in the playoffs? What type of teammate is he?

I read a rumor that there was a deal between the Kraken and Blues for Kyrou and the 8th overall pick in a down draft. There is your compensation meter.

Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

Is Tuch even available? How available is Kyrou?

We don't know if the rumors are right on Tuch, but he has some trade protection. Outside of waivers, Kyrou can block anything. So, I guess the availability question is 2-fold. Does St. Louis want to trade him? Does Kyrou want to move on? Another couple of scratches may help change his mind.

We've got 4-5 players who make around $4m. One of those guys would have to go, just for cap compliance. They wouldn't be the principle's of the trade, but would be included. It's pretty obvious that St. Louis isn't getting the top 1/2 of our roster right now. It's their pick on our prospects, and, perhaps a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

[OldDutchChip]

43 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

I've got questions about Kyrou, but for me, it's probably him or Tuch.

Is Kyrou a defensive liability? Would he buy into a 200' game? Is he tough enough in the playoffs? Can he score in the playoffs? What type of teammate is he?

I read a rumor that there was a deal between the Kraken and Blues for Kyrou and the 8th overall pick in a down draft. There is your compensation meter.

Kyrou does score in the playoffs, but appears not to make us harder to play against. He's an RHS player that we really need. He does make us faster, and if Tony's right, we can always use another guy who can enter a zone. 

Is Tuch even available? How available is Kyrou?

We don't know if the rumors are right on Tuch, but he has some trade protection. Outside of waivers, Kyrou can block anything. So, I guess the availability question is 2-fold. Does St. Louis want to trade him? Does Kyrou want to move on? Another couple of scratches may help change his mind.

We've got 4-5 players who make around $4m. One of those guys would have to go, just for cap compliance. They wouldn't be the principle's of the trade, but would be included. It's pretty obvious that St. Louis isn't getting the top 1/2 of our roster right now. It's their pick on our prospects, and, perhaps a top 15 protected '26 1st. 

i don't think Wild have a 1st rounder in 2026? they traded it for a defensive stud....

as for pick on our prospect - it would be either Wally, Yurov or Zeev - which one do you want to move for Kyrou? none right? or maybe Yurov. and Rossi too. that's not smart to do for the Wild. especially giving up two Cs for one W. And i am fairly certain Rossi and a top prospect is needed for us to pry from division rival their star.

i think it's wise to move on and wait. we have done our share of compulsive deals. wait and save your resources. who knows - maybe Toronto keeps loosing and we can pry Nylander from them...

[Pewterschmidt]

2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

i don't think Wild have a 1st rounder in 2026? they traded it for a defensive stud...

Guerin gave up 2025 1st for the Jiri Project™️

[OldDutchChip]

4 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Guerin gave up 2025 1st for the Jiri Project™️

oh good! so he could still use it to bring back Zucker!

[FredJohnson]

5 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

Why would STL gift us Kyrou? Ohgren is nothing special-They would want at least Yurov as a prospect and will likely push for Rossi - which I won’t do

I was trying to be realistic at what it would take to get him, snd if that’s true - I’d walk away and wait

 

They're healthy scratching Kyrou...shouldn't he be cheap?