Article: Bill Guerin Should Install Himself As the Next Wild Head Coach

[Tom Schreier]

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[Kato AK]

I would be happy with either Pete Deboer, or Gerard Gallant.

[goenzoy]

They just need to do something as Hynes is awful 

They can't even win with a healthy roster 

[MNCountryLife]

I don't think this works at all.  Guerin does not strike me as a guy that can focus on two extremely different objectives at the same time.   That isn't necessarily a kick on a guy as a GM.  Some guys have the energy and ability to efficiently break up their day and compartmentalize their thoughts ... most don't.  

If he doesn't like Pete Deboer or anyone else hanging around I would hold up.  Let the year run its course and get the young guys to play.  Get a handshake deal for the off-season.

Edited 10 hours ago by MNCountryLife

[Enforceror]

Curious why everyone is of the mind that Hynes is not a good coach? Is it the lack of wins to start this season? First round exit last season? 4th line Rossi? Not playing the kids? All of the above?

 

[goenzoy]

20 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

First round exit last season?

It is his record .He  coached 26 play-off games with 3 different teams and lost 19.

Same with time and line management .It is just horrible

[Burnt Toast]

The league has changed and with it coaching. Just managing the assistant coaches is a full time job. BG could have pursued a coaching career but he chose upper management. I’d say the chance he gets behind the bench is about the same as Judd Brackett lacing them up. 

[Patrick]

This idea is like a high speed train wreck. We all know it will be a disaster but we kinda want to see it anyway.

[mnfaninnc]

Ok, here is the scene: Johansson decides to take one of his cardio shifts with a couple of weak turnovers and then his guy beats him to the net defensively and scores. What does Guerin do when he gets to the bench?

A. Blow a Gasket

B. Threaten to Trade Johansson During Intermission

C. Bench Him

D. Just Glare at Him and Give Him Another Shift

E. Look Stoic and Give Him His Next Shift

I really like the idea. When Lou did this, most of the time he did it with about 1/4 of a season left. But, if Hynes isn't getting it done, won't play the kids, and DeBoer or Gallant aren't the guys he wants to coach the team, then I think he should fire Hynes, put himself behind the bench and get a good first hand look at what's not working. Really, I think he would learn best this way, maybe even more than sitting in his suite upstairs.

It also seemed to me that Lou would do this after the TDL or right before when most of the trading and stuff was pretty much over. I think Guerin has a better feel for chemistry in the locker room than Fletcher ever did, and we've seen failed Fletcher twice now. Yes, he didn't lose his temper publicly, however, he also tried to acquire the right pieces, he just couldn't really get the right fits. Every time I think of it, I think of the disastrous trade for Hanzel of a guy who he got and completely wrecked the chemistry of the team. 

It might do Guerin well to see it from a different perspective and be able to tell his players in all honesty why he chose them to be there and what their roles were. He's loud and can get animated. I'm sure referees wouldn't enjoy coming to the bench on a contested call, or have to defend a bad one. I also think that he'd have no problem with the players having a meltdown game or 2 to change the narrative, and may even send a couple of them out there to fix the problems. I see Guerin's signature move of throwing water bottles on the ice. And, we would probably have a few unsportsmanlike bench penalties.

I also think Guerin would stick up for all of his players, especially if one is targeted.

[mnfaninnc]

https://giphy.com/gifs/train-wreck-oVM4SGyjdVlv2

33 minutes ago, Patrick said:

This idea is like a high speed train wreck. We all know it will be a disaster but we kinda want to see it anyway.

That was the best I could do. Not sure how to post the gifs inside. I guess I need a Fred tutorial.

[1Brotherbill]

Ok the narrative of BG signing players to NTC and NMC there is a guidline for this with the collective bargaining agreement.  If you are over 27 or have 7 years of pro hockey you are eligible for a NTC.  The league as a whole has 30% of the players with NTC.  That is out of all the players in the league 30% of them have a NTC.  That includes the players not eligible.  

What does that mean.  Well the GM and the Player work on the idea of having a NTC and more often than not they get the NTC.  So let's look at the number of players that the Wild has that have NTC attached to them.  Gus, Spurgeon, Middleton, Zucarello, Hartman, Foglino, Taresenko, Ek and Kaprizov all have a form of a NTC.  That is 9 out of the 23 man roster a bit higher than the 30% average to be sure.  But of the players with the NTC how many deserve it and how many has Guerin given out?  

The contracts that everyone has a hurt rear end about are the Middleton, Hartman and Foglino contracts.  Hartman has a Modified No Trade clause, which means he needs to provide a list of 15 teams to be traded to.  That contract for Hartman runs thru next year with the same conditions. Middleton has a No Move Clause this year and then three years of Modified No Trade clause like Hartman for three years.  Foglino has a No Trade Clause this year and then two years of Modified To Trade clause.  

The only contract that I see that is a burden on the Wild Cap and Roster is Spurgeon.  His contract is 7.5 million and has a Modified No Trade clause of 10 teams attached to it.  His skills have dropped off the table.  

People want Foglino gone and I don't blame them but for what he brings to the team on the ice is something that the Wild don't have anywhere in the system and anyone available at the 4 million cap hit would probably be worse. 

Middleton is another player that everyone wants run out of town on rails.  But he is a solid defender that makes few mistakes.  And once again an improvement at that position outside of the organization would be very hard to fill at 4.3 million a year.  We can revisit this in a few years because that is when the contract and the play will become a problem. 

Hartman is a first round pick that is solid, able to play on any line and produce.  People think he takes stupid penalties and sometimes he does but he does exactly what the team wants when they want it.  His contract is not a problem for the Wild. 

 

[Pewterschmidt]

35 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

https://giphy.com/gifs/train-wreck-oVM4SGyjdVlv2

That was the best I could do. Not sure how to post the gifs inside. I guess I need a Fred tutorial.

[MacGyver]

I think Billy has a way of "suggesting" things to his coaches which the coaches  follow. Playing Flower over Talbot in the St Louis series I always felt was a Billy call. Billy is the kind of guy who has to have his fingerprints on everything as long as there is plausible denial later. 

[Pewterschmidt]

9 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

as long as there is plausible denial later. 

This is the MO of the thin skinned tough guy.  Underneath all the bluster is a scared weasel

Edited 6 hours ago by Pewterschmidt