Article: Indefinitely Might Have Ended For Jared Spurgeon

[1Brotherbill]

6 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

Yeah.  The ability to steal a Fiala from another team will definitely be harder.   

If that is true and the Wild are incapable of a big trade... is a build through the draft the only viable solution?  If that is the case than perhaps we do let the vets go and let in Lambos, Haight, Heidt, Bankier and the rest and hope for the best.

Building from the draft if with the Wild is not a good thing.  The team often drafts in the bottom half of the draft and if you don't draft in the top 15 those players are not that great.  Boldy, Rossi, Buium, etc were all in the top half of the draft.  The Wild have about 20 failed first round picks because they were in the bottom half of the first round.

I say they should tank for this season and go for that 1st pick.  If you finish dead last even if you don't win the Lottery you still draft at 3rd.  Which the 3rd overall pick would be on this team next year and if it is one of the centers in the draft that player would center a line of Boldy and Kaprizov. 

[Mateo3xm]

10 hours ago, MrCheatachu said:

Spurgy doesnt seem like a thing SillyG is even going to entertain considering how he handled Dumba55.

I’m curious what you mean about how he handled Dumba?

Dumba was on his way to being a burns or Subban type player until he tore his pec and he had to completely change the way he played hockey. Dougie Hamilton is going through the same decline as Dumba was because he had the same injury and surgery. Dumba and Brodin were a fantastic pairing defensively even though they didn’t put up much offense. There was actually some great articles on HW and stats to back up how good their defensive metrics were together. Mn wilds defense has always been a strength until now. 

[Mateo3xm]

8 hours ago, Dean said:

I agree with Patrick. Billy didn’t set the market with kappy deal. Eichel did. We are paying a shit organization cap penalty for kappy . What player is going to get 17 mil on there next deal and when? It’s not going to be next year. The league is in that 12-14 range for super stars this year and probably 12-15 next year . Billy got fleeced for a guy who demanded 18 and got 17 . The same guy who won’t talk to media after game last night. Like Russo said if your going to demand being the highest paid player than act like it.  He held up Minnesota fans to squeeze 8 million more and doesn’t give a shit about the fans or organization. He also doesn’t look or play like the guy who was looking for his next contract years prior . Now he just wants to have fun and throw blind  passes around that go in the back of our net. Where is that dog in kappy?  Gone with the payday. . 
   Billy also didn’t set market in trade deals last year when he gave the house away for jiricek. He didn’t start a new trend either in giving every 3rd and 4 th line replaceable players nmc s . Now he’s got bad flexibility.  He’s a bozo that sat on his hands for 6 years while the league passed him by and his lazy players aged themselves out. . He has never had a plan going into any season. What the f is the so called brain trust of the wild doing? How many clowns is Ocl paying to give him this shit advice about running a team. ?  This organization is f d from top down. They really need a new perspective. An entire new drafting department, get all new pro scouts. Turn over every coach , they haven’t  done shit to develop anything . 
  This team needs new eyeballs on it. How do you salvage an over paid baby , mediocre draft picks and aged out veterans who rather go to Halloween parties than pay back the fans by winning a game 

The only thing I really disagree with here is when you say we have the house away for Jiricek. We didn’t and the first that went over there was In a very weak draft. It was never anything close to a Hershel Walker type trade. Not even close but I agree with a lot of the sentiment about how this team was built. I think the constraints are far too many on this team and  I think that actually comes from the pos owner. The owner wants to have his cake and eat it too. 

[Mateo3xm]

11 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

I'm still pushing for Spurgeon for Danielson in a trade. 

I would love this but they aren’t taking our old worn out tire for a well rounded up and coming center prospect. Detroit actually has some very good pieces on D.

[mnfaninnc]

22 hours ago, Patrick said:

Kaprizov will make 50% more than Necas.

I think you need to redo your math

[mnfaninnc]

12 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

I would love this but they aren’t taking our old worn out tire for a well rounded up and coming center prospect. Detroit actually has some very good pieces on D.

From what I've read, those pieces are not quite ready yet and they need a top 4 RHS defender with some offensive upside. Detroit hasn't been to the playoffs in a long time and they didn't fill this area in the offseason. Spurgeon is a perfect candidate to help here + has the intangibles of making the playoffs in many different seasons. 

Depending on the temperature of Yzerman's seat, he may be desperate enough to make the deal. Supposedly, they have the cap space for the move too. Just checked, and that is true. Currently, the Wild look out of the playoff race, whereas, Detroit is at the top of the Atlantic Division tied with the Canadiens. Detroit's problem the last couple of years has been in the hunt at the deadline, not doing much, and fading in the last 10-15 games to get over the playoff drought hump. 

I believe that Spurgeon has enough gas left in the tank to get Detroit back to the playoffs and help them avoid missing the playoffs again. I would suggest that trading one of their highly rated defenders may not be the way that they will go, but to trade a promising forward. There were a handful of teams looking around for an RHS defender, 2nd pairing, with offensive upside this offseason. If I'm Detroit, I'm trying to assure I get the player, so my offer comes in very competitive. 

On the Standings chart, the Wild are sitting at 9 pts. in 12 games. Only the Blues are worse in our division and are perennial slow starters. I would expect them to have a very good 2nd half. In the Western Conference, the Wild sit at 13th and are losing ground during this very important homestand which they are letting get away from them. It may not be long before Guerin starts answering his phone listening for offers on vets for futures. By grabbing some nice prospects, it takes the ball out of the hands of Judd and puts it into players closer to being ready. 

[mnfaninnc]

15 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

There might be another reason that Kirill got the money he did.  That reason might be Artemi Panarin.  They both have the same agent and the agent gets a good chunk of that money.  Panarin might show up next summer for a decent contract and the two together would give the agent a large payday.  

To be honest Panarin is the type of guy that BG would want.  Old, declining, etc. 

I very much agree that the agent had a lot of say in this. I guess the agent's perspective is "never agree with the 1st offer." So, due to OCL's statements, the Wild likely started out at the $16m mark, and OCL thought he had a deal. How would it look for him if he said the deal is almost done, and Kaprizov declines and leaves. I think he painted the club into a corner where they had to come out with the player signed. I'm pretty sure OCL wanted 8 years. Maybe it took an extra bribe of money to get Kaprizov to agree to 8? Maybe he was more in the camp of McDavid and wanted 2 or 3? 

[Skomonkey]

On 10/31/2025 at 11:05 AM, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Spurgeon is still making quite a few good plays on the ice, but he hasn't been quite as sound all around as he was a few years back, which isn't shocking given his age. He could still be valuable in a 3rd line role with Middleton.

Might be time to put Buium with Faber and Brodin with Jiricek. If it fails, the Wild get a high pick, but what they've been trying hasn't been ideal so far.

Spurgeon has been a very good player for a long time, but replacing Buium with Spurgeon on PP1 while also expecting Spurgeon to be a main contributor on PK seems like a horrible idea. Let the youth at least play where they excel.

I don't even hate Buium on line 3 with Jiricek, but why limit the PP time? They certainly aren't going to deploy either of them on the PK if they can avoid it.

They have a top talent in Buium who led a strong PP. now he’s not even being used where he’s a strength.  I would argue he looks lost at times on 5on5. How he’s being coached is a negative and you can see it in his posture. 
 

im all for playing the young kids and if we are last, so be it. We get a high draft pick and the kids get a ton of experience. Playing them on the 4 th line is not development and a waste of their talent. 
 

I would start the rebuild now and sell off Brodin, Spurgen, Moose and NoJo in my first wave. Next to go is #13(the guy who fans on the puck with an open net 4 times so far), Hartman and the other Russian. 
 

then I would fire the coach and GM together. 
 

I would make Boldy the captain and show our commitment to youth with speed and talent. We can build around the core of KK and Boldy with some good young D talent. 
 

Chicago and San Jose are good examples of young talented teams with the right coach that will be in the playoffs this year or next and making noise. 

[Patrick]

10 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

I think you need to redo your math

11.5 X 1.5 =17.25.  The math looks correct. Pretty insane isn't it?

[mnfaninnc]

12 hours ago, Patrick said:

11.5 X 1.5 =17.25.  The math looks correct. Pretty insane isn't it?

Sorry, I understood what you were saying went the other way, my misunderstanding.

In my mind it was half of Kaprizov's number.

[Dango]

On 10/31/2025 at 12:12 PM, Patrick said:

Kaprizov will make 50% more than Necas. Thats insane. 

Kap didn't reset the market. He is an outlier and it's going to take 3 to 4 years for the market to catch up.

Largest overpay in NHL history.  Especially crazy when you consider the deals signed before and after him.

Who is responsible Leopold or SillyG? Hard to say. Shared stupidity I guess.

Necas is #3 on the Aves talent list behind Makar and Mack ,  Kaprizov is # 1 on the Wilds talent list  The Aves had to trade away their #2 player at the time on offense ,  you cant really compare the 2 situations . If Boldy continues his progression he probably gets close to Necas money next deal