Article: Don't Worry (Too Much) About Kaprizov Aging

[Tony Abbott]

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[Patrick]

17 million for 80 points a year for 3-4 for years...if he stays healthy. Yikes!

We better make some deep runs in the next few years because the clock is ticking!

[TCMooch]

I’m glad we signed Kaprizov however my main worry is how many seasons he’ll be able to play 70+ games a year in the early years of this contract.

[mnfaninnc]

Now we need to find a couple more "stars" to help him. This can be from anywhere, but it would be nice if we had drafted them. Now with Kaprizov signed, regardless of how we look in the standings, I'm thinking we are a team adding around January. The adds won't be rentals, they may be future UFAs that get extended, or guys that have term. We've got to get that 2nd line fixed. Really, that's about where we have the hole. It's a lot easier to find capable 2nd liners than 1st liners. I'm still looking at Voronkov, Marchenko and Lindstrom as helping to fill out that hole. CBJ has what we need, if they get off to a rough start, perhaps a volume of futures could pry loose a very good player?

[Will D. Ness]

1 hour ago, mnfaninnc said:

We've got to get that 2nd line fixed. 

Rangers most likely will be sellers at the TDL.  Panarin is expiring.  Expensive... but it shouldn't break the bank.

[1Brotherbill]

7 hours ago, Will D. Ness said:

Rangers most likely will be sellers at the TDL.  Panarin is expiring.  Expensive... but it shouldn't break the bank.

Right now if the Wild make zero moves with the roster they will have 16 million at the trade deadline.  So, if Brodin and Zucarello sit for a good chunk of the season the Wild should have money available to sign Panarin at the TDL.

Then next summer they can drop 9 million on him for a contract to play with his buddy.  His agent however is the same guy that has Kirill and that means he will want Panarin to make more than Kirill.  So it would be nice to see the two Russians on the team I doubt it will happen because of the agent. 

[1Brotherbill]

It would be nice to see Kirill crank out 100 point plus seasons for the next nine years.  I personally would rather see him play solid hockey with timely scoring for nine years.  The team isn't as bad off as most Minnesota fans think.  They have more than enough scoring to make the playoffs, they have two solid goalies, the defensive core is pretty good.  They just need to play solid hockey up and down the roster when it is needed.  I believe they did that against Vegas and if one skate was onside they more than likely would have won that series.  

[mnfaninnc]

12 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

It would be nice to see Kirill crank out 100 point plus seasons for the next nine years.  I personally would rather see him play solid hockey with timely scoring for nine years.  The team isn't as bad off as most Minnesota fans think.  They have more than enough scoring to make the playoffs, they have two solid goalies, the defensive core is pretty good.  They just need to play solid hockey up and down the roster when it is needed.  I believe they did that against Vegas and if one skate was onside they more than likely would have won that series. 

Just out of curiosity, which teams in the West do you think will be better, and which falling? 

I see us in the WC hunt, but I think Anaheim got a lot better, and Utah is improving. I can't say I see someone falling back, maybe Calgary?

[WheelSnipeCelly]

Dang, so McDavid just signed a 2-year $12.5M extension...making Kaprizov's $17M look like a serious overpay.

[Pewterschmidt]

1 hour ago, WheelSnipeCelly said:

Dang, so McDavid just signed a 2-year $12.5M extension...making Kaprizov's $17M look like a serious overpay.

Prepare for this to get argued to death, but I agree that 97 looks little greedy today.  This fan is ok with that.  Gotta pay to play.   We were in no position to haggle. 

[Tony Abbott]

1 hour ago, WheelSnipeCelly said:

Dang, so McDavid just signed a 2-year $12.5M extension...making Kaprizov's $17M look like a serious overpay.

If Kaprizov took that same deal, fans would (rightly) say that Kaprizov has one foot out the door.

[B1GKappa97]

How old was Staal when he broke the 40 goals plateau for us? 

I rest my case. 

[Dango]

Anyone wanna bet that Mcdavid wont get more than 17 when his the next contract is signed ?  If Vegas had this bet id be there friday 

[WheelSnipeCelly]

5 hours ago, Tony Abbott said:

If Kaprizov took that same deal, fans would (rightly) say that Kaprizov has one foot out the door.

Oh most certainly! Definitely would be cause for concern as the clock is now set for the Oilers. But they at least have been to the Cup Finals for the past two years. Also, even at 2 years, I would have assumed McDavid would have at the very least gotten $14.5 or $15M to surpass Draisaitl. 

[1Brotherbill]

12 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

Just out of curiosity, which teams in the West do you think will be better, and which falling? 

I see us in the WC hunt, but I think Anaheim got a lot better, and Utah is improving. I can't say I see someone falling back, maybe Calgary?

They scored 97 points last year with a vast majority of their scoring out for half the year.  It isn't a matter of other teams falling off it is a matter of the Wild scoring 110 points this next season.  With the team they got and the point people are in their careers they should score a lot more this year and the defense will be better and more offensive.  

It isn't crazy to think the Wild can be 10 to 15 points better in the standings. 

[M_Nels]

10 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

With the team they got and the point people are in their careers they should score a lot more this year and the defense will be better and more offensive.  

It isn't crazy to think the Wild can be 10 to 15 points better in the standings

Agree 100%. Boldy looked like a superstar in preseason, if he can keep rolling like he was I could see him sniffing the 90pt club. If Kirill plays more than half a season and keeps pace at the very least a PPG game player then 10pts higher in the standings is very, very attainable. 

Of course it all hinges on health, our big guns HAVE to stay healthy to get into the top 3 in the Central.

Edited October 7 by M_Nels

[raithis]

16 hours ago, WheelSnipeCelly said:

Oh most certainly! Definitely would be cause for concern as the clock is now set for the Oilers. But they at least have been to the Cup Finals for the past two years. Also, even at 2 years, I would have assumed McDavid would have at the very least gotten $14.5 or $15M to surpass Draisaitl. 

Look at their contract situation.  They'll have $22M in cap space next year, but they'll only have 14 players signed. 

If they had paid McDavid more, they'd be even more top-heavy than they are now and will have even less depth.  They'd also have to start trading out players as soon as next off-season - and that may have to happen anyway. 

I see this as McDavid saying that he'll sign on for two more years at what he's making now in order to stay on and try and win a cup with Edmonton.  After that, who knows.

[raithis]

5 hours ago, M_Nels said:

Agree 100%. Boldy looked like a superstar in preseason, if he can keep rolling like he was I could see him sniffing the 90pt club. If Kirill plays more than half a season and keeps pace at the very least a PPG game player then 10pts higher in the standings is very, very attainable. 

Of course it all hinges on health, our big guns HAVE to stay healthy to get into the top 3 in the Central.

Really hoping Boldy takes the horse by the reigns a little more this year.

I've liked seeing him move around more.  I've been saying it for a while, but he's a much more dangerous player on offense when he's not standing still.  He's got that power forward skill set, but he gets into these ruts where he tries to be a sniper taking one-timers and almost consistently pulling them to the right.

[Up North Guy]

16 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

They scored 97 points last year with a vast majority of their scoring out for half the year.  It isn't a matter of other teams falling off it is a matter of the Wild scoring 110 points this next season.  With the team they got and the point people are in their careers they should score a lot more this year and the defense will be better and more offensive.  

It isn't crazy to think the Wild can be 10 to 15 points better in the standings. 

i think the biggest cautionary issues are health number one and whether the kids can produce.

[mnfaninnc]

19 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said:

They scored 97 points last year with a vast majority of their scoring out for half the year.  It isn't a matter of other teams falling off it is a matter of the Wild scoring 110 points this next season.  With the team they got and the point people are in their careers they should score a lot more this year and the defense will be better and more offensive.  

It isn't crazy to think the Wild can be 10 to 15 points better in the standings.

This is a very aggressive outlook. If we put in 110, we should have home ice advantage in the 1st round. I'm surprised you don't think that there will be a learning curve for 5 rookies. 

To me, they will make mistakes, but you cannot trim their TOI, you just have to coach them up and hope they've learned their lessons. 

[1Brotherbill]

3 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

This is a very aggressive outlook. If we put in 110, we should have home ice advantage in the 1st round. I'm surprised you don't think that there will be a learning curve for 5 rookies. 

To me, they will make mistakes, but you cannot trim their TOI, you just have to coach them up and hope they've learned their lessons. 

Ten points would put them at 107.  That is five wins better than last year.  I don't think that is very aggressive at all.  This team will be much better offensively than last year and will be solid if not better on defense than last year as well. 

[1Brotherbill]

7 hours ago, Up North Guy said:

i think the biggest cautionary issues are health number one and whether the kids can produce.

Injuries are a thing you can't predict them and you can't count on them happening Kirill could play the next nine years and not miss a game because of injury.  The kids will be fine with the system that Hynes plays they will be fine.