Article: Kirill Kaprizov Re-Signs with the Wild on Record-Breaking Contract

[B1GKappa97]

3 hours ago, Scalptrash said:

This KEEPS them a bubble team, they didn't get any better, they just didn't get worse. Now they won't be able to afford a true 1A center, so it'll be same same going forward.

They have $23.1M in cap space next year.... and that's before making any trades. 

[mnfaninnc]

1 minute ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Yurov may not even make the team out of camp.  Ogz ceiling is post season Trenin.  So now Haight is the last hope that a second top 6'r is already in the organization. 

P-Scout, keep in mind that OgZ is a 2nd half player. His stick was pretty slow last season, I anticipate without having watched him that it is still a bit slow but better. 

What I'm looking for is an early sniper goal and an early greasy goal from OgZ. To me, confidence is his biggest issue. I'm sticking with Nino as his comparison. And I'd love to see him throw the wood a little.

I haven't actually watched Yurov yet, but I'm thinking he is one of those who will just keep improving all season. I consider the K and A to be about the same level leagues, and I think he's put in his time. I'll bet he's one of those guys who just gets a little bit better every game.

One last thing, there is a lot of pressure now on the guys we resigned a couple of years ago. They have got to get these guys into consistent NHL guys before their time ends here. If they don't mentor well, the signing was a waste of time.

[B1GKappa97]

44 minutes ago, Patrick said:

IF Kaprizov stays healthy we need one more big time addition. 

The problem is we don't have the money for it because we overpaid by close to 30% unless we become top heavy.

Additionally, KK is fragile.  8 years is too long. 

I don't think this will age well.

 

This is patently false. According to puckpedia, we have $23.1M leftover in cap room for next season. 

We need to extend Gustavsson (probably $7M tops) and likely Jiricek on an RFA deal ($3M tops) which leaves us around $13.1M in cap space before they make any trades to create more. 

They have plenty of flexibility to still add pieces. 

And how cares about how the contract will age? The Wild are literally about to go all-in over the next 3 years now. Forget about how the contract will look in 6 or 7 seasons. Worry about that when we get closer to it. Just enjoy the ride in the meantime. 

[M_Nels]

13 minutes ago, B1GKappa97 said:

Just enjoy the ride in the meantime. 

Say it louder for mnhockeyfan03

[Scalptrash]

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 I don't know how Thompson is on the back end, but in zones 2 and 3 he is a monster. Larkin, to me, adds that speed element and I think he's pretty responsible defensively, at least per reputation. 

I was curious since you mentioned it, Thompson is a lifetime -56 and Larkin is a lifetime -103. Ouch!

However, Thompson was +4, -1, -2 the last three seasons. Larkin -7, +5, -16. Thompson gets the easy nod for being more responsible.

Last season:
Thompson 76GP 44G 28A 72P -2 +/- 35PIM 16PPP 18:45TOI

Larkin 82GP 30G 40A 70P -16 +/- 40PIM 27PPP 20:04TOI

Thompson, more goals and points in fewer games with less TOI. Also higher shooting percentage (with more shots) 18.2 vs. 12.8.

Larkin's strengths; PP points (27 vs. 16) and FO% (54.5 vs. 42.2).

Contract:

Thompson 5 x $7.1M

Larkin 6 x $8.7M

Add in Thompson's size (6'6", 220 vs. 6'1", 199) and reach and it's a no brainer to me. Tage is two years younger as well.

Buffalo is more likely to deal their best players than Detroit (Eichel, Reinhart, Peterka).

[Tony Abbott]

4 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

Now that is a scary statement.  Corruption in the NHLPA to ensure others get paid.  I could see it happening as well.

Scary stuff, seeing a union working to get its members more money. Blatant corruption.

[MNCountryLife]

1 minute ago, Tony Abbott said:

Scary stuff, seeing a union working to get its members more money. Blatant corruption.

LOL.. I see the sarcasm there.   But seriously... Unions are supposed to work on behalf of all players, with an emphasis on those that are in the bottom run of the ladder....not the wealthy few.  Corruption occurs when the union favors the big guy vs the little.   I would also be surprised if the CBA didn't have collusion language in it for union reps interferring in contracts.

[MNCountryLife]

44 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

Scary stuff, seeing a union working to get its members more money. Blatant corruption.

As I read through the CBA it appears that the NHLPA must review all contracts to ensure it meets the guidelines of the CBA.  As long as the contract falls within the guidelines of the CBA it would pass the NHLPA.  

I do see in section 26.3 it discusses Circumventions.  The idea of manipulation.  Which could place a union rep in a tricky situation if they pushed talks.  I would need a lot more time to study the CBA to have a confident argument one way or the other.

Edited 16 minutes ago by MNCountryLife

[Patrick]

5 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

That is probably one of the best reasons to sign him at such a high AAV.  Minnesota needs to be considered a legitimate place to go.  A contender willing to spend the money to get there.

You understand there is a salary cap right?

[Patrick]

5 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

This was the only thing they could do.  Even if you hope the newer guys can be, should be, will be, or do become as good as Kap is, the fact that literally no one else in this franchise has done it says, "Yeah, fuck it.". From day one, Kap was just plain better than Gaborik, Parise, Suter, and Boldy and Rossi now 

The Wild play better (much) better with him in the lineup.  Is it enough to stop the whining?  Will it stop the Lols if "$17m and they still couldn't win a round?". Sure.

What is also true is other teams best the Wild for decades because they had the talent ceilings the Wild just don't. Kaprizov is an x-factor.  

I'm just happy the Wild finally kept one for once.

 

 

We all know you are 2nd to none when to comes to Kaprizov fandom.  Not even his own mother is as big a fan as you are! 😂😂😂

[MNCountryLife]

Just now, Patrick said:

You understand there is a salary cap right?

Yep. sure do.   Players want to play for contenders, not pretenders.  Kirill will attract the attention of other player wanting to play with him... the high contract will also tell players that the Wild are willing to spend the money to get them there.

Don't get me wrong.  I have been a big advocate on paying a player a value based on performance.  I think this is an overpay... but there will be an upside to the overpay as well.