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goenzoy Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Kaprisov likes playing in Minnesota But people should get real . Any 100million + contract is certainty more complicated then a return flight from Moscow 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 There are some distinct differences from the post-Gaboeik years to what a post-Kaprizov situation would look like. Post-Gaborik - Koivu and Backstrom were pretty good, but the forward and defensive lines were riddled with meh. 40-60 pt player peaks, with 20s-40s mixed in. Young guys were very...VERY underwhelming. Took a few years for Granny, Brodin, and Dumba to show up. Post-Kaprizov - Boldy is a better winger than anything post Gaborik had. Probably same level as a Parise even. - Brodin, Spurgeon, Faber - Buium might be a better prospect than anything the Wild had for those few years. - Gus is almost as good as Backstrom was. - $15-18m NOT to spend on one guy. Maybe someone in FA will take a chance, or even 2-3 with that money. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Players like Kaprisov are a rare commodity in the NHL. It’s like finding a golden egg in the bottom of your Cracker Jacks box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Remember the Coyle/nino/zucker/vanek/brodziak/fontaine years? Like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Kaprisov is one of the most dynamic players in the NHL but he isn't one of the top 5 and probably not in the top 10 overall. Why? His defense is meh, his playoff productivity is meh and he is an injury risk to say the least. I think the Wild are better off without KK and having 16 million in additional cap space. The Patriots built the most significant sports dynasty in the last 40 years by NOT overspending on players and prioritizing WINNERS! KK has every right to squeeze as much money out of the team as he likes but its obvious that winning is a low priority. You can't win a title without superstars who are 100% committed to winning. If he turned down the contract (and we don't know its true) because he wants more money, I say trade him ASAP. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Pewter’s Prospect Prognostications: If you were hoping for yurov to make a contribution this season, you’re going to be disappointed. Think Rossi in his first 19 games (1 pt). Nothing dynamic. No dawg. No vision. Punted the puck more than once. And this is against 18&19 year old invitees. He’ll get TOI with big club but it won’t be pretty. Haight showed a pulse tonight but he’s not ready either. Heidt is less ready than Haight. Benak again stood out. Assisted on game winner. Stole puck on offensive end board and silver plattered it for a tap in. Kid is our Stankoven. Coaches put him on 1st line with yurov and Haight today. Amidovski looks like he could become a middle six forward. Good size and scored again today on a breakaway he created. Masters is a big body but I’m not sure he’s got ‘it’ to make pro. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Brotherbill Verified Member Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 The team will be what it has been for 25 years. Good enough to make the playoffs but probably not good enough to matter in the playoffs. The young kids should keep the team relevant. Gus and Wallstedt will win games on their own. Defense will be solid and probably more offensive than ever. The Wild will still need elite centers. Those don't come along often and when they do you usually have to draft in the top 5. Which I don't think the Wild will ever do with this ownership. So they will be good enough to make the playoffs forever. Just not good enough to matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Guerin won't be here if Kaprizov isn't re-signed. Good luck getting another GM gig as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 39 minutes ago, Scalptrash said: Guerin won't be here if Kaprizov isn't re-signed. Good luck getting another GM gig as well. On this we agree. Bully has one job. (Misspelling is intentional) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goenzoy Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 4 hours ago, Patrick said: If he turned down the contract (and we don't know its true) because he wants more money, I say trade him ASAP. How to you know ? Believe it has nothing to do with money or term There is simply no urgency for him . Good start to season is miles more important Also I do think that head coach will not see end of season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Just answering the title question: Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 15 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said: Pewter’s Prospect Prognostications: If you were hoping for yurov to make a contribution this season, you’re going to be disappointed. Think Rossi in his first 19 games (1 pt). Nothing dynamic. No dawg. No vision. Punted the puck more than once. And this is against 18&19 year old invitees. He’ll get TOI with big club but it won’t be pretty. Haight showed a pulse tonight but he’s not ready either. Heidt is less ready than Haight. Benak again stood out. Assisted on game winner. Stole puck on offensive end board and silver plattered it for a tap in. Kid is our Stankoven. Coaches put him on 1st line with yurov and Haight today. Amidovski looks like he could become a middle six forward. Good size and scored again today on a breakaway he created. Masters is a big body but I’m not sure he’s got ‘it’ to make pro. No comment on Buium or Peart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: No comment on Buium or Peart? Z Boo didn’t play. undersized Peart got pushed around. In first game stl chopped stick out of his hand in d-zone and scored 20 sec. later while Peart was flailing around with no stick. This kid could sleep in weight room for next 3 years and still not be nhl ready. You’re gonna need to let this one go mnfan. I’ll help you do that Edited September 15 by Pewterschmidt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 minute ago, Pewterschmidt said: undersized Peart got pushed around. In first game stl chopped stick out of his hand in d-zone and scored 20 sec. later while Peart was flailing around with no stick. You’re gonna need to let this one go mnfan. I’ll help you do that Does this mean that P-Scout is calling Peart a bust? Time to trade him out for a grizzly bear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 16 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: Does this mean that P-Scout is calling Peart a bust? Time to trade him out for a grizzly bear? Let it go MNFAN. Let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 7 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: Let it go MNFAN. Let it go. Some of these guys are still "prospects" and we need to treat them as assets. Can Peart get us or be packaged with something that can get us something useful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 20 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: Some of these guys are still "prospects" and we need to treat them as assets. Can Peart get us or be packaged with something that can get us something useful? I can’t make the point any clearer. Let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 Nobody is going to give up anything useful for a defenseman who has 9 AHL points in 62 games. He's not gonna move the needle in a package. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dis-allowed display name Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 51 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: undersized Peart got pushed around. I want some big bruiser, playoff hockey style bulk - Guerin I draft undersized guys - also Guerin We have a five year plan- Guerin What is it?- Wild fan base 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) As long as we’re piling on undersized players: haight heidt and (gasp) yurov are all fun-sized skaters Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite. You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick. Never eats the puck or punts it. Benak has that skill too. Cool as cucumber out there. Edited September 15 by Pewterschmidt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up North Guy Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 4 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said: Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite. You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick. Never eats the puck or punts it. Benak has that skill too. Cool as cucumber out there. Sure looked that way against the kids. Going to be fun watching him in Juniors. Wonder if he will go the NCAA route after one year up north. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said: As long as we’re piling on undersized players: haight heidt and (gasp) yurov are all fun-sized skaters Benak is fun-sized mini but he got that dawg in him and his hockey sense and hands are elite. You know how whenever 97 gets in trouble he’s always able to put puck on teammates stick. Never eats the puck or punts it. Benak has that skill too. Cool as cucumber out there. Now someone will say (probably strife or mnfan) the wild pr dept has them listed a 6’X” for yurov and 5’11” for Haight…. Well this fan will say they play a game very similar to Rossi. Edited September 15 by Pewterschmidt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoJoSux Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 I love to say what we shoulda done in the draft. So here it is again. Shoulda taken somebody else with the 2nd round pick the Wild used for Peart. Knies, or Blake woulda been better with a Minnesota connection and coulda easily been scouted just as well as the smallish defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 26 minutes ago, NoJoSux said: Shoulda taken somebody else with the 2nd round pick the Wild used for Peart. Knies, or Blake woulda been better with a Minnesota connection 2021 Draft Peart at 54th pick Knies at 57 Blake at 109th I wish I didn't now know this. And this guy at 136th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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