Article: Where Is the Marco Rossi Offer Sheet?

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[MrCheatachu]

Rossi's side has also alluded to the fact that they don't want to sign a 'team friendly' deal which they think would just be doing SillyG a favor to move him.

Which means, any offer sheet that would be beyond 1-year (if you match an offer sheet you can't trade the player for a year) would have to be super lop-sided towards the player for SillyG not to match.

SillyG seems absolutely the type of person to match an offer-sheet that Rossi signs to somewhere he wants to go (lets say, $7x2 with the Mammoth) just to trade him in the second year of the contract to some basement dwellers for zero return other than not letting Rossi go where he wants to go.

Hell, even at this point if Rossi's team signs a $6x3 with the wild, I think SillyG looks for the worst fit for the guy and ships him out there just to prove a point that if you mess with the bull you're gonna get the horns...or a Buffalo Sabres jersey.

[Pewterschmidt]

8 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

SillyG seems absolutely the type of person to match an offer-sheet that Rossi signs to somewhere he wants to go

If it’s obvious to the fans, you can bet the players and agents know what bill is.  No need to wonder why no free agents will come here (Perry, B Nelson, etc).  This is why we’ll have high AAV and term guys like trenin, Lifetime  contract for NoJo,etc.  again winning cures everything.  Year seven is a long enough wait.  2nd round or unemployment line for this regime.  

Edited 6 hours ago by Pewterschmidt

[Pewterschmidt]

I’m still betting that Rossi gets an offer sheet.  There’s a GM out there who’ll roll the dice on Rossi @$7M

[Citizen Strife]

Maybe, just maybe, Rossi is the "good, but not great player Guerin thinks he is and other GMs thought the same thing.  Otherwise, things would have gotten done long ago.  Rossi's camp gets squat the longer this drags on.  The risk they get zero money outweighs the "chance" the Wild get worse.  Handing 2C over to Yurov without even fighting for it is plain dumb.

[goenzoy]

19 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

anding 2C over to Yurov without even fighting for it is plain dumb.

Eriksson Ek just did 46 games last year and from Yurov we even dont know if he can play center at NHL level .And should it work well there is also no certainty that it will happen from opening night onwards 

Wild are short of centers even with Rossi 

[Citizen Strife]

6 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

Eriksson Ek just did 46 games last year and from Yurov we even dont know if he can play center at NHL level .And should it work well there is also no certainty that it will happen from opening night onwards 

Wild are short of centers even with Rossi 

Yes, and that might be Rossi or his agent's only leverage.  But if he holds out, and the team or Yurov doesn't struggle, they end up looking stupid.

The risk of holding out and then playing like shit and letting Yurov get a headstart is asking for trouble.  Get paid, beat the pants off Yurov so he won't take the role and then deal with it.  Rossi SHOULD be better by default.  Even Hynes wouldn't just dump Rossi to 3C/4C if he's plain better.

[Willy the poor boy]

1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

If it’s obvious to the fans, you can bet the players and agents know what bill is.  No need to wonder why no free agents will come here (Perry, B Nelson, etc).  This is why we’ll have high AAV and term guys like trenin, Lifetime  contract for NoJo,etc.  again winning cures everything.  Year seven is a long enough wait.  2nd round or unemployment line for this regime.  

GD! I can't believe I've been complaining and shaking my head at BG for 7 years now...Time flies...

[MacGyver]

Rossi is the gum stuck to the bottom of Billy's shoe. There is no future for him here. His best bet is to sign a one year 6M deal play his ass off put up 60 points or more again and then demand a trade out of purgatory. 

[HHF18]

Rossi signs a 3Y 5M contract with the Wild. Good deal for both sides.

[Scalptrash]

I think there are a few reasons:

1) Professional courtesy. GM's don't like offer sheets and they hold grudges. I would imagine several GM's are afraid of unstable Billy. Plus he said he would match any offer, so why would teams bother? They should still call his bluff though if they have a need. It doesn't cost them anything if Billy matches it.

2) Kaprizov hasn't re-signed yet. Even though the Wild have ample cap space for Rossi, even if/when Kaprizov re-signs, there is a number that Billy doesn't want to exceed for Rossi. Depending on Kaprizov's new contract, $7M/yr. is probably a lot more than he wants to spend on Rossi. It will make things a lot tighter next year.

3) In order to get Rossi, they would have to over pay. It would have to be something like a $7M x 7 contract to have any hopes of actually getting him. Is he worth that? Recent signings suggest he is very close, but his play is inconsistent. It's a risk. BUT, it's less risky than the picks they would give up to get him. Unless, of course, they have a top 5 pick, but even then, there are no guarantees.

4) The McKenna sweepstakes. How many teams will tank this year for a shot at McKenna. Chicago, San Jose for sure and maybe Nashville. They certainly don't want to get better OR give up their first round pick if they make the lottery. (watch the magical lottery pick go to Chicago again next year, just sayin')

Apparently Vancouver still really wants him via trade, but I don't know how they could afford him. Obviously starters would come back (rumors are Hoglander and Raty), but that's not nearly enough cap space.

The Ducks are the most obvious choice. They could offer sheet him and still sign McTavish. It could make them a playoff team much sooner. If not, a player swap via sign and trade for McTavish has hopefully been explored, at least by their agents. If the below statement is true, how could they realistically do better than Rossi?

• Ducks' Stance:

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  Anaheim seems to be holding firm on their asking price, which includes a good young roster player or a top prospect. While they are open to trading McTavish, they also have the option to keep him and potentially explore deals closer to the trade deadline.

Edited 3 hours ago by Scalptrash

[MrCheatachu]

2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

  No need to wonder why no free agents will come here (Perry, B Nelson, etc).  

Pee-Pants, are you really disappointed that Scorey Perry or Broken Nelson didnt want to use MN as a soft landing in their glide path towards the end of their careers?

I'm not going to lose any sleep that the Wild were unable to land those crown jewels...

[Pewterschmidt]

5 minutes ago, HHF18 said:

Rossi signs a 3Y 5M contract with the Wild. Good deal for both sides.

Best case scenario.  Hope it happens

[Pewterschmidt]

5 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

GM's don't like offer sheets and they hold grudges. I would imagine several GM's are afraid of unstable Billy.

I don’t disagree there’s an element of Professional courtesy involved but these guys know they don’t have long for these jobs (what’savg tenure) so if they can make a move to improve their team they won’t worry about thin skin bill’s feelings

[MrCheatachu]

6 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Best case scenario.  Hope it happens

If this happens Guerin trades him next off season, because a $5M 2C that's locked under contract for 3 years is going to get a kings ransom on the open market...I don't think Rossi's team signs that, as they lose all control of his future at that point.

Rossi doesnt hit UFA until the 2029 season, so a 3 year deal would still expire with him as an RFA...

Edited 3 hours ago by MrCheatachu

[goenzoy]

4 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Best case scenario.  Hope it happens

ZERO chance that Rossi will sign for 3 years 

His heart is saying One year and his brain two years 

And they are fighting hard .

But more concerning is the situation around Kaprisov 

They are too certain that he will sign 

Also the most likely team for an offersheet was not even mentioned

San Jose Sharks

[Scalptrash]

5 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

Also the most likely team for an offersheet was not even mentioned

San Jose Sharks

They can't give up their 1st round pick because they have a very high probability of getting McKenna.

[HHF18]

10 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

If this happens Guerin trades him next off season, because a $5M 2C that's locked under contract for 3 years is going to get a kings ransom on the open market...I don't think Rossi's team signs that, as they lose all control of his future at that point.

Rossi doesnt hit UFA until the 2029 season, so a 3 year deal would still expire with him as an RFA...

that´s only half the truth. With an option for the 4th year in the contract, he will be an UFA...

[goenzoy]

20 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

very high probability of getting McKenna.

Sharks never drafted first .So I don't think that can be the reason 

But generally I don't think offersheet is likely .

Even when BG is just bluffing . I can't see him matching 3 x 7 million

[Scalptrash]

21 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

Sharks never drafted first .So I don't think that can be the reason 

But generally I don't think offersheet is likely .

Even when BG is just bluffing . I can't see him matching 3 x 7 million

The Sharks also don't have the picks to offer anything over $5M.

A serious offer sheet for Rossi would have to be Tier 4. If they are red, they can't do it.

Edited 2 hours ago by Scalptrash

[goenzoy]

17 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

A serious offer sheet for Rossi would have to be Tier 4. If they are red, they can't do it.

Thanks I didn't know this chart but if I recall correct teams can get their own picks back.So for Sharks to get a 3rd rounder should be easy 

ALL the teams with a first rounder are in trouble 

[goenzoy]

22 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

Rossi would have to be Tier 4

Dont think it will be Tier 4 but 3 .

But AAV calculation goes with 5 years

[MrCheatachu]

1 hour ago, HHF18 said:

that´s only half the truth. With an option for the 4th year in the contract, he will be an UFA...

What CBA are you following that has option years?  You realize these guys play in the NHL right?

[Kato AK]

1 hour ago, goenzoy said:

Sharks never drafted first .So I don't think that can be the reason 

But generally I don't think offersheet is likely .

Even when BG is just bluffing . I can't see him matching 3 x 7 million

The sharks took Celebrini #1 in 2024?

48 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

Thanks I didn't know this chart but if I recall correct teams can get their own picks back.So for Sharks to get a 3rd rounder should be easy 

ALL the teams with a first rounder are in trouble 

Its not A 3rd rounder, its their own 3rd rounder, which the penguins have. But I think the Pens would take Colorado's 2nd to send it back.

[ArizonaWildFan]

Nothing like a Marco Rossi piece to get some responses... even more than a Taylor Swift piece.

I buy and sell some real estate and it makes me sound like a complete ass, but I look for divorce situations when buying. Guerin looks like the husband who publicly signaled that he and Marco were breaking up during the playoffs and shortly thereafter. Rossi didn't say much but gave a sense of his unhappiness a few times.

Other GM's probably kicked the tires on Rossi which has GMBG saying that they're trying to work things out, even if he truly doesn't want to work things out. Those mixed messages are probably the holdup. The rubber will hit the road soon and Billy and Marco are going to have to let the world know what they are going to do. Until then there's no reason for any GM's make a pass at Rossi.