Article: Trading Marco Rossi Is Acting Like the Flames and Sabres, Not the Panthers

[IllicitFive]

10 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

Has he been signed yet?

think Zona think 

So kap lost the locker room? Is he signed yet? 

[Sam]

14 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

So kap lost the locker room? Is he signed yet? 

How does one “lose a locker room room”? Like privilege to use one?

[goenzoy]

47 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

What is the point?

The point is that Rossi and for that matter also Matt Boldy 

did more then Kaprisov and EEK that Wild reached even the play-off 

[IllicitFive]

30 minutes ago, Sam said:

How does one “lose a locker room room”? Like privilege to use one?

On the outs with teammates either socially or as part of the culture or both. Ever play a team sport where you just aren't a fam of a guy, he may be selfish, think he's above the team, or quits then blames people? That's how 

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, IllicitFive said:

So kap lost the locker room? Is he signed yet? 

i am not questioning effort of kaprizov, not one time. 

are you not questioning effort of rossi? not even once?

[OldDutchChip]

39 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

The point is that Rossi and for that matter also Matt Boldy 

did more then Kaprisov and EEK that Wild reached even the play-off 

how did you measure that? by games played? genius!

[OldDutchChip]

48 minutes ago, Sam said:

How does one “lose a locker room room”? Like privilege to use one?

not having the trust of his teammates or coaches. funny stuff. 

[IllicitFive]

2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

i am not questioning effort of kaprizov, not one time. 

are you not questioning effort of rossi? not even once?

I'm not claiming any lost the locker room. I'm not there so 0 basis to the idea. We have no idea what relationships are like in there or why Rossi was on 4th line. Just saying by your logic if he hadn't "lost the locker room" he'd be signed same could apply to Kap. Or only one able to be targeted by that logic. 

 

[OldDutchChip]

8 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

I'm not claiming any lost the locker room. I'm not there so 0 basis to the idea. We have no idea what relationships are like in there or why Rossi was on 4th line. Just saying by your logic if he hadn't "lost the locker room" he'd be signed same could apply to Kap. Or only one able to be targeted by that logic. 

 

of course not. but isn't that what we do here? i am not directing this question specifically at you, but i honestly am not sure why it's such a taboo. we can analyze and project the situation. we can draw parallels and use critical thinking. i thought this site will allow one to think and explore other options, but it's getting harder to do that. if you are not with mob thinking then you are a dunce. 

my "lost the locker room" hypothesis stemmed from Rossi's play towards the end of the season and especially in the playoffs. points removed - you have to look at his play and it was evident that he was not only raw but also not willing to engage (forget the penalty - he couldn't be trusted to have one's back - and that is needed when you are in the playoffs). next we have Kap being consulted and having his buddy (who is not exactly a prime performer these days) being brought on board. and finally this culminates into this point - Kap is directly involved in team building and he has not given green light on Rossi. i do believe Kap is consulted and if he was fully committed to Rossi, a deal would have been done yesterday. But Rossi has flaws. I think Kap is incredibly passionate and wants to win and realizes that he will have his best chance in the next 5 years. He wants to drive it home and deliver SC, not be a passenger. He is constructing his team. I fully trust him and think he will bring us the cup. He is that good - i stand by my claim he is the best player in NHL. 

anyway - that's my thinking. sorry again for unleashing this on you. but hopefully it helped see my position. we are all just "internet opinions" and when one side takes supremacy of their view and presents it as a fact and ridicules the opposing view - i do get defensive. everyone can have an opinion. and unless a poster goes out of his/her way to piss on mine, i will never escalate. but at this point - i think it gotten far enough (this is not you but i am going to end it with that-thanks for listening)

[goenzoy]

40 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

how did you measure that? by games played? genius!

No as a game played what was lost would be  not exactly helpful to reach playoff 

[OldDutchChip]

2 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

No as a game played what was lost would be  not exactly helpful to reach playoff 

i'm still not sure what you want out of this statement or where its going? yes, kap and ek missed time. unfortunate, but with them - we banked a ton of points and sort of coasted to POs.....

so ..... what is your point?

[goenzoy]

19 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Kap is directly involved in team building and he has not given green light on Rossi. i do believe Kap is consulted and if he was fully committed to Rossi, a deal would have been done yesterday. But Rossi has flaws. I think Kap is incredibly passionate and wants to win and realizes that he will have his best chance in the next 5 years. He wants to drive it home and deliver SC, not be a passenger. He is constructing his team. I fully trust him and think he will bring us the cup. He is that good - i stand by my claim he is the best player in NHL. 

This is again utter nonsense.

It is not even clear if Kaprisov will even sign another contract with Wild .

It is likely but far from certain at this point.

Plus even when he should sign there is ZERO relations to Rossi s contract demands

[OldDutchChip]

4 minutes ago, goenzoy said:

This is again utter nonsense.

It is not even clear if Kaprisov will even sign another contract with Wild .

It is likely but far from certain at this point.

Plus even when he should sign there is ZERO relations to Rossi s contract demands

he is one of the leaders on the team and the most important player in team's history - so yeah i think there might be some communication going on. note - it is the most important off season for Billy. he needs to get Kap signed and Kap will only sign if he sees a path to SC victory. to think that Kap won't be consulted about team construct and direction is lunacy. so then think - you bring on Vlady (his boy) but there is nothing happening with Rossi. common think - why? 

[Willy the poor boy]

2 hours ago, Sam said:

How does one “lose a locker room room”? Like privilege to use one?

I lost one one time when I was really drunk...Couldn't find it for the life of me...Sigh...

[goenzoy]

28 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

he is one of the leaders on the team and the most important player in team's history - so yeah i think there might be some communication going on. note - it is the most important off season for Billy. he needs to get Kap signed and Kap will only sign if he sees a path to SC victory. to think that Kap won't be consulted about team construct and direction is lunacy. so then think - you bring on Vlady (his boy) but there is nothing happening with Rossi. common think - why? 

Fair enough and that's something I can agree with from team point of view. But we still don't have any certainty that Kaprisov will see it the same way.Upcoming season should be good

Rossi is a totally different story . He can play upcoming season in Buffalo with his old linemate from OHL Jack Quinn.