Article: Trading Marco Rossi Is Acting Like the Flames and Sabres, Not the Panthers

[Tom Schreier]

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[Fezig]

What this needs to talk about, yet continues to ignore, is Marco Rossi's contract or trade status. It's been at least a day since I've seen anything! 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Buffalo told the Wild they'd rather receive a 4th line winger and 3rd pairing D than pay Rossi $7M on a long term deal. The Wild are negotiating.

The player's agent is working to maximize the contract value and get their cut, and the Wild have plenty of time. Lots of people were freaking out when Kaprizov's current deal stretched out quite a while, but it got done and both sides seem like they've been happy.

Rossi will be fine. It might just take a while for his agent to accept a deal that works for the Wild.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Also see an interesting note from The Athletic in their "way too early predictions for the upcoming season". 4 writers sharing their dark horse cup contenders, one selecting the Wild.

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They looked like one of the better teams in the West before the injuries last season, and gave the Golden Knights a good run in the first round despite just getting guys back into the lineup. With several key players in contract years, I feel like this could be the best Wild team we’ve seen in some time. -- Jesse Granger

Granger covers the Vegas Golden Knights for The Athletic.

[OldDutchChip]

Billy is doing the right thing. Focus on Kap first and stay firm on Rossi.

I know that Rossi-fans do not like to mention this during their outburst but let's restate

• Rossi has lost the locker room, unlike Tkachuk and Bennett and Dumba
• He was demoted for his play and looked disinterested at the most important time
• We are in the driver seat so Rossi will just have to wait his turn
• There is a team construct that you have to be mindful off - to have success you have to balance out your team; our top 6 have a collection of mostly skill/finesse players that get abused during POs - reality is Rossi is another one of those types of players.

and stop with this "somebody please think of Rossi" cries!

[ArizonaWildFan]

Nice take on this situation, Tom.

Guerin has created quite a conundrum for himself (along with ownership, Wild players, other NHL players and Wild fans), but he is not smart enough to realize it, too stubborn to admit that he is standing in a pile of his own do-do, or a combination of both.

Is he rebuilding? No. Is he signing or trading for higher end talent? No. Is he developing young talent and prospects? No. Is he accumulating draft capital? No. Is he creating a winning culture? No. Is he developing trust and confidence both within and outside of the organization? No.

Tom, you are exactly right. This team under Guerin is Buffalo or Calgary. They are years behind ten of the sixteen teams that made the playoffs last year, and will remain there as long as Guerin is allowed to continue his reign of mediocrity.

[ArizonaWildFan]

5 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Rossi has lost the locker room, unlike Tkachuk and Bennett and Dumba

What is your source or how do you know this, ODC?

[OldDutchChip]

12 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

What is your source or how do you know this, ODC?

Has he been signed yet?

think Zona think 

[ArizonaWildFan]

3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Has he been signed yet?

That's your source?

It sounds like you sit on the toilet, do your business, wipe, and then read what's on that paper and quote it as fact.

[OldDutchChip]

36 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

Nice take on this situation, Tom.

Guerin has created quite a conundrum for himself (along with ownership, Wild players, other NHL players and Wild fans), but he is not smart enough to realize it, too stubborn to admit that he is standing in a pile of his own do-do, or a combination of both.

Is he rebuilding? No. Is he signing or trading for higher end talent? No. Is he developing young talent and prospects? No. Is he accumulating draft capital? No. Is he creating a winning culture? No. Is he developing trust and confidence both within and outside of the organization? No.

Tom, you are exactly right. This team under Guerin is Buffalo or Calgary. They are years behind ten of the sixteen teams that made the playoffs last year, and will remain there as long as Guerin is allowed to continue his reign of mediocrity.

That's plain false. Stop with this nonsense. We were the best team in the league up until the injuries hit us. We have top draft class about to make it's debut and we are positioned well to go into TDL and be actual players. Enough of these silly takes Zona.

[ArizonaWildFan]

Time to take a break from reading and responding to ODC. No logic, no facts, no rational thinking. Sounds like a great fit to be an Assistant General Manager for the Minnesota Wild!

Good bye, ODC!

[Will D. Ness]

The Florida Panthers dismantled a presidents trophy team with one purpose in mind... to get bigger, tougher and meaner.  

Let's keep things in perspective here... they gambled it all... one of the ballsiest moves in all of sports IMO.  They got rid of their finesse game and brought in brutality... and now they have 2 SC.

If you want the Minnesota Wild to be more like the Panthers, why are people crying for Rossi?  If anything you should be bitching that we didn't draft Lundell.

[OldDutchChip]

50 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

That's your source?

It sounds like you sit on the toilet, do your business, wipe, and then read what's on that paper and quote it as fact.

none of us know the truth but you can analyze the situation as best you can and predict - use your brain a bit

if you want to read toilet paper signs - go for it

 

[OldDutchChip]

20 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

Time to take a break from reading and responding to ODC. No logic, no facts, no rational thinking. Sounds like a great fit to be an Assistant General Manager for the Minnesota Wild!

Good bye, ODC!

yes, please go take a nap and come back refreshed with more of your logic and facts.

[Tony Abbott]

3 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

let's restate

• Rossi has lost the locker room, unlike Tkachuk and Bennett and Dumba

Russo has literally said that Rossi is "loved" in the locker room. Stick to calling the guy who skates more miles than all but like 10 guys in the NHL fat.

[OldDutchChip]

33 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

Russo has literally said that Rossi is "loved" in the locker room. Stick to calling the guy who skates more miles than all but like 10 guys in the NHL fat.

Russo knows the inner feelings of everyone in the locker room? 

Faber? not my fault he has a bit butt

[OldDutchChip]

How about Zona, Wildguy, Tony and Tom state their proposal clearly. You are the GM. Tell the site - what would you do with Rossi. Give us your actual number. What is it?  8 X 8? 10, 11? 

And also tell us if Zuccy, Rossi, Kap, Boldy, Ek and Yurov and Tarasenko will scare anyone in the PO?

We'll wait.....

[Dango]

Buffalo ?    If Buffalo doesnt extend Tuch for atleast 7-7.5   we should not really use them as a measuring stick when justifying why they wouldnt pay Rossi 7 .   if they had any credibility they would  have that deal done already themselves .  

[Tony Abbott]

28 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Russo knows the inner feelings of everyone in the locker room? 

If he doesn't... how do you?

[OldDutchChip]

1 minute ago, Tony Abbott said:

If he doesn't... how do you?

you remember how Vlady talked to Kirill and then then Billy brought Vlady in? that was Kap move - agree?

knowing Kirill has influence - i think it's a good assumption that Rossi wasn't given a green light (likely due to his performance)....if Kap wanted him - he'd be signed already

hence you can connect the dots - leaders in the locker room has spoken

 

[SkolWild73]

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

you remember how Vlady talked to Kirill and then then Billy brought Vlady in? that was Kap move - agree?

knowing Kirill has influence - i think it's a good assumption that Rossi wasn't given a green light (likely due to his performance)....if Kap wanted him - he'd be signed already

hence you can connect the dots - leaders in the locker room has spoken

 

Kap might want him, but that doesn’t mean Billy would sign him for any amount of money.  

[Tony Abbott]

25 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

How about Zona, Wildguy, Tony and Tom state their proposal clearly. You are the GM. Tell the site - what would you do with Rossi. Give us your actual number. What is it?  8 X 8? 10, 11? 

And also tell us if Zuccy, Rossi, Kap, Boldy, Ek and Yurov and Tarasenko will scare anyone in the PO?

We'll wait.....

The hardest thing in the universe to find is my opinion on what the GM should do with Rossi.

[Tony Abbott]

3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

you remember how Vlady talked to Kirill and then then Billy brought Vlady in? that was Kap move - agree?

No.

Tarasenko called Kirill while deciding to waive his no trade clause to go to Minnesota, which means the trade was already in motion. What you're describing would be tampering. 

[OldDutchChip]

1 minute ago, SkolWild73 said:

Kap might want him, but that doesn’t mean Billy would sign him for any amount of money.  

i think Kap realizes that he needs someone to watch his back. he sees how brutal the POs are and he sees no one that can step in for him. seriously - that has to be major point - he is probably the only one that can get physical but why would you want to ask him to do that? so Billy is working to get him a physical top 6 linemate. that's why it's easier for Sasha to play in FL - with crazy Matthew and even crazier Bennett around. Kap needs that. He doesn't need Rossi. 

[OldDutchChip]

5 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

The hardest thing in the universe to find is my opinion on what the GM should do with Rossi.

you want him signed for 8 years? at 7? and you think the top 6 is all fine? nothing needs to be done?