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[Neil Urbanski]

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[Kato AK]

I had 2 issues with this pick. The first is that the pick was a reach by most prospect rankings, so much of a reach that his consolidated rank on EP would have left him available at the Wild next pick.

The other issue is that every other forward taken after this pick in the second round, including Wozniak which HW did an article on, supposedly fit what the wild are looking for 6'+, skating, scoring, etc. 

Hopefully Judd didn't get too cute with his scouting again.

[MrCheatachu]

21 minutes ago, Kato AK said:

I had 2 issues with this pick. The first is that the pick was a reach by most prospect rankings, so much of a reach that his consolidated rank on EP would have left him available at the Wild next pick.

The other issue is that every other forward taken after this pick in the second round, including Wozniak which HW did an article on, supposedly fit what the wild are looking for 6'+, skating, scoring, etc. 

Hopefully Judd didn't get too cute with his scouting again.

Our 2nd round draft picks from the past 6 years:

Hunter Jones, Vlad Firstov, Ryan O'Rourke, Marat Khusnutdinov, Jack Peart, Caedan Bankier, Rieger Lorenz, Hunter Haight, Riley Heidt, Rasmus Kumpulainen, Ryder Richie.

You have to go all the way back to 2015 to get Jordan Greenway at 50th to be the last guy not drafted in the 1st round by this team to make an NHL impact beyond making our prospect pool move up in the Athletic's rankings.

2nd+ round picks are low hit rate for finding NHL players regardless, so if Brackett wanted a guy in the higher rounds who's 'not going to make an impact' over another guy who's 'not going to make an impact' i'm not going to lose too much sleep over it.

 

[Enforceror]

30 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said:

Our 2nd round draft picks from the past 6 years:

Hunter Jones, Vlad Firstov, Ryan O'Rourke, Marat Khusnutdinov, Jack Peart, Caedan Bankier, Rieger Lorenz, Hunter Haight, Riley Heidt, Rasmus Kumpulainen, Ryder Richie.

You have to go all the way back to 2015 to get Jordan Greenway at 50th to be the last guy not drafted in the 1st round by this team to make an NHL impact beyond making our prospect pool move up in the Athletic's rankings.

2nd+ round picks are low hit rate for finding NHL players regardless, so if Brackett wanted a guy in the higher rounds who's 'not going to make an impact' over another guy who's 'not going to make an impact' i'm not going to lose too much sleep over it.

 

Alright, I used AI to compile this and had to re-phrase quite a few times. I still think it's leaving out some players but, for the sake of arguments sake, I'll drop this turd here. Take it with a couple pounds of salt.

NHL Draft Gems — 2nd Round or Later (2010–2025)

Anaheim Ducks

• John Gibson (2nd round, 39th overall, 2011) – Elite goalie, multiple All-Star selections.

Boston Bruins

• Charlie Coyle (2nd round, 28th overall, 2010) – Versatile two-way forward.

Calgary Flames

• Johnny Gaudreau (4th round, 104th overall, 2011) – Elite scorer, multiple 90+ point seasons.

Carolina Hurricanes

• Sebastian Aho (2nd round, 35th overall, 2015) – Consistent 30+ goal scorer.

Chicago Blackhawks

• Alex DeBrincat (2nd round, 39th overall, 2016) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

Colorado Avalanche

• Sam Girard (2nd round, 47th overall, 2016) – Stanley Cup winner, top puck-moving defenseman.

Columbus Blue Jackets

• Oliver Bjorkstrand (3rd round, 89th overall, 2013) – Reliable scorer and playmaker.

Dallas Stars

• Jason Robertson (2nd round, 39th overall, 2017) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

• Wyatt Johnston (3rd round, 23rd overall, 2021) – Emerging top-six forward.

Minnesota Wild

• Kirill Kaprizov (5th round, 135th overall, 2015) – Multiple 40-goal seasons, Calder Trophy winner.

Montreal Canadiens

• Brendan Gallagher (5th round, 147th overall, 2010) – Consistent 20+ goal scorer.

Nashville Predators

• Nicolas Hague (2nd round, 34th overall, 2017) – Stanley Cup champion defenseman.

New Jersey Devils

• Jesper Bratt (6th round, 162nd overall, 2016) – Multiple 80+ point seasons.

New York Rangers

• Adam Fox (2nd round, 66th overall, 2016) – Norris Trophy winner, elite offensive defenseman.

Ottawa Senators

• Mark Stone (6th round, 178th overall, 2010) – Multiple 30+ goal seasons.

Philadelphia Flyers

• Shayne Gostisbehere (3rd round, 78th overall, 2012) – 60+ point defenseman.

Pittsburgh Penguins

• Jake Guentzel (3rd round, 77th overall, 2013) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

St. Louis Blues

• Jordan Kyrou (2nd round, 35th overall, 2016) – Emerging top-six forward.

Tampa Bay Lightning

• Nikita Kucherov (2nd round, 58th overall, 2011) – Multiple 100+ point seasons.

Toronto Maple Leafs

• Nick Robertson (2nd round, 53rd overall, 2019) – Emerging scorer.

Edited Thursday at 10:26 PM by Enforceror

[FredJohnson]

Gotta add weight or he’s a bust. It’s a fact.

[1Brotherbill]

2 hours ago, Enforceror said:

Alright, I used AI to compile this and had to re-phrase quite a few times. I still think it's leaving out some players but, for the sake of arguments sake, I'll drop this turd here. Take it with a couple pounds of salt.

NHL Draft Gems — 2nd Round or Later (2010–2025)

Anaheim Ducks

• John Gibson (2nd round, 39th overall, 2011) – Elite goalie, multiple All-Star selections.

Boston Bruins

• Charlie Coyle (2nd round, 28th overall, 2010) – Versatile two-way forward.

Calgary Flames

• Johnny Gaudreau (4th round, 104th overall, 2011) – Elite scorer, multiple 90+ point seasons.

Carolina Hurricanes

• Sebastian Aho (2nd round, 35th overall, 2015) – Consistent 30+ goal scorer.

Chicago Blackhawks

• Alex DeBrincat (2nd round, 39th overall, 2016) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

Colorado Avalanche

• Sam Girard (2nd round, 47th overall, 2016) – Stanley Cup winner, top puck-moving defenseman.

Columbus Blue Jackets

• Oliver Bjorkstrand (3rd round, 89th overall, 2013) – Reliable scorer and playmaker.

Dallas Stars

• Jason Robertson (2nd round, 39th overall, 2017) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

• Wyatt Johnston (3rd round, 23rd overall, 2021) – Emerging top-six forward.

Minnesota Wild

• Kirill Kaprizov (5th round, 135th overall, 2015) – Multiple 40-goal seasons, Calder Trophy winner.

Montreal Canadiens

• Brendan Gallagher (5th round, 147th overall, 2010) – Consistent 20+ goal scorer.

Nashville Predators

• Nicolas Hague (2nd round, 34th overall, 2017) – Stanley Cup champion defenseman.

New Jersey Devils

• Jesper Bratt (6th round, 162nd overall, 2016) – Multiple 80+ point seasons.

New York Rangers

• Adam Fox (2nd round, 66th overall, 2016) – Norris Trophy winner, elite offensive defenseman.

Ottawa Senators

• Mark Stone (6th round, 178th overall, 2010) – Multiple 30+ goal seasons.

Philadelphia Flyers

• Shayne Gostisbehere (3rd round, 78th overall, 2012) – 60+ point defenseman.

Pittsburgh Penguins

• Jake Guentzel (3rd round, 77th overall, 2013) – Multiple 40-goal seasons.

St. Louis Blues

• Jordan Kyrou (2nd round, 35th overall, 2016) – Emerging top-six forward.

Tampa Bay Lightning

• Nikita Kucherov (2nd round, 58th overall, 2011) – Multiple 100+ point seasons.

Toronto Maple Leafs

• Nick Robertson (2nd round, 53rd overall, 2019) – Emerging scorer.

Nineteen teams on the list 8 of them are from the 2nd round.  Picks outside of the first round have a difficult time making a huge impact in the NHL.  

Does that mean this kid won't make it to St. Paul.  No, it doesn't but it does mean it will be abnormal for him to be a star in the NHL. 

[Pewterschmidt]

2 hours ago, FredJohnson said:

Gotta add weight or he’s a bust. It’s a fact.

bill looked like this before he ate Nordy

[B1GKappa97]

I'm not believing in the blueliner hype anymore!! After Peart and Lambos and O'Rourke/Hunt all turned into big nothing burgers, its time for me to see to believe! 

I mean that kid we drafted in the 4th round last year was supposedly the self-proclaimed 'steal of the draft' and what's he up to now? Even after drafting him we still traded a haul to bring in Jiricek. 

Show me something, blue liners!

Edited 23 hours ago by B1GKappa97

[MNCountryLife]

BG is banking on a lot of things going right this year to make an impact.

• Buium and Jiricek can step in and play solid D.
• Yurov and Ohgren can step in and play solid F.
• Sturm can come in and solidify our PK.
• Tarasenko can come in and solidify or PP.
• We can snag a TDL impact player.
• The old crew of Spurge, Zuc, Bogo and Foligno will not diminish.
• Boldy, Rossi, Trenin and Faber take another step up.
• Brodin gets healthy quickly.

A lot of things have to go right... 

[Sam]

10 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

BG is banking on a lot of things going right this year to make an impact.

• Buium and Jiricek can step in and play solid D.
• Yurov and Ohgren can step in and play solid F.
• Sturm can come in and solidify our PK.
• Tarasenko can come in and solidify or PP.
• We can snag a TDL impact player.
• The old crew of Spurge, Zuc, Bogo and Foligno will not diminish.
• Boldy, Rossi, Trenin and Faber take another step up.
• Brodin gets healthy quickly.

A lot of things have to go right... 

And Kap re-ups.

[Neil Urbanski]

1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said:

I mean that kid we drafted in the 4th round last year was supposedly the self-proclaimed 'steal of the draft' and what's he up to now?

https://hockeywilderness.com/news-rumors/minnesota-wild/aron-kiviharju-is-leading-minnesotas-finnish-revolution-r30497/

 

[Pewterschmidt]

40 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said:

The old crew of Spurge, Zuc, Bogo and Foligno will not diminish.

Great post.  This is the wildest wildcard.  Could also add Hartman, Ek (miles are stacking up), and brodin to this list.  Our large group of Old’s is another year older

[Kato AK]

22 hours ago, MrCheatachu said:

2nd+ round picks are low hit rate for finding NHL players regardless, so if Brackett wanted a guy in the higher rounds who's 'not going to make an impact' over another guy who's 'not going to make an impact' i'm not going to lose too much sleep over it.

 

While I agree that 2nd+ picks are low hit rates to make it to the NHL, my point is that BG lowered his odds by selecting someone that should have been 3rd or 4th round plus. 

They also went against their previous track record of selecting players that slide down the board (yurov, Khiviharu, etc). There were 3 players on the board that were potential 1st rounders before last season but slid down for...reasons. McKinney (next pick), Wozniak (3 picks later) and Ryabkin (Carolina).

The pick was a head scratcher at minimum. Feels like the Filip Johansson pick all over again.

[Pewterschmidt]

20 minutes ago, Kato AK said:

While I agree that 2nd+ picks are low hit rates to make it to the NHL, my point is that BG lowered his odds by selecting someone that should have been 3rd or 4th round plus. 

They also went against their previous track record of selecting players that slide down the board (yurov, Khiviharu, etc). There were 3 players on the board that were potential 1st rounders before last season but slid down for...reasons. McKinney (next pick), Wozniak (3 picks later) and Ryabkin (Carolina).

The pick was a head scratcher at minimum. Feels like the Filip Johansson pick all over again.

Judd needs to work at his hot dog stand full time and the Wild org needs a competent head of scouting.