B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scalptrash said: Billy should swallow his pride and buck up an extra million to sign him now. If he gets offer sheeted, and he will, it will cost the Wild a lot more or they will get exactly what Billy doesn't want, more picks and lose a very good player. How many teams would trade their first round pick for a 60 point player that could play right now? Especially teams that need good players and have to spend money to reach the cap floor. I'm thinking most, if not all. Even if it costs them $7x7, it's still a bargain. There are no other centers available even close to his skill. And yet he has not had any offer sheets extended to him and when Billy tried to trade him in a package for Peterka, Buffalo took a worse deal to avoid having Rossi. If he was 6'3'' and 210+ lbs, he'd be a no brainer signing. But he's not. He is undersized and played like it in the postseason. Teams want to win in the playoffs, not get some regular-season point producers who get physically erased when the playoffs come around. I don't think its a guarantee he gets offersheeted at all. I mean the Canucks were allegedly the team most interested in him and if you notice on that helpful chart, the only way they can offer sheet him would be to give him an insane $11M AAV and forfeit us their next 4 1st round picks... which he's not worth. Edited July 10 by B1GKappa97 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 12 hours ago, Pablo said: Its gonna be impossible to get a high aav (+7M)with a 4 or longer year deal from anyone. Too many teams are in win now mode and cap strapped. If Rossi was smart, he would beg BG for a 2yr 15M deal and get back into FA when the cap goes up. He's not eligible for UFA in 2 years. He has 4 seasons to go before he can hit free agency. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, HHF18 said: They have 1st & 3rd round picks 26 (conditional from dallas). They have to own their own first and third to qualify. Any conditional pick from someone else does not help them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNotMild Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Will D. Ness said: I think Rossi will get better as well, but I don't think he has as high as ceiling as Boldy. Boldy’s literal ceiling is lower because he is taller. Rossi’s lack of height finally helps him (sarcasm). Just so there isn’t any confusion, I agree that Boldy should have the better career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydguy75 Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 16 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said: Teams that can afford to give the picks and have space are Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Calgary to name a few. One would think that if the Wings wanted Rossi, they would have put together something on the Tarasenko exit. Instead, they opted for future considerations. Does this mean even Detroit thinks he's too small for the money Rossi wants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 22 hours ago, OldDutchChip said: negative. A smart GM would use it to his advantage. There is another factor to consider: any GM that does put an offer sheet on Rossi risks pi$$ing Billy off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 20 hours ago, OldDutchChip said: I’m sorry, I got nothing 🍻 NOW you figured this out??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dango Verified Member Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Penguins traded for Dumba and a 2nd round pick now they have a 1st round pick, 3- 2nds and 2- 3rds . 12 million in cap space , Bills connection i could see some type of deal where the Pens keep their 1st round pick and the east isnt the physical league that the west is so Rossi fits there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhockeyfan03 Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Dango said: Penguins traded for Dumba and a 2nd round pick now they have a 1st round pick, 3- 2nds and 2- 3rds . 12 million in cap space , Bills connection i could see some type of deal where the Pens keep their 1st round pick and the east isnt the physical league that the west is so Rossi fits there Get Rakell from Pittsburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Brotherbill Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 6 hours ago, hydguy75 said: One would think that if the Wings wanted Rossi, they would have put together something on the Tarasenko exit. Instead, they opted for future considerations. Does this mean even Detroit thinks he's too small for the money Rossi wants? It's still early. As the summer goes on his height will grow on people. It's clear the BG is going to sign Rossi for anything less that 7.02 million. GM's as a rule tend to spend all their money when they have it. So, as the summer goes on the money in some of the teams that can afford Rossi will start to burn a hole in their pocket and if that team is one player away from a playoff run then Rossi might go for the three picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 12 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said: He's not eligible for UFA in 2 years. He has 4 seasons to go before he can hit free agency. Yes, as an RFA 2 years from now, he would be in his prime AND the salary cap will be higher so its probably a waay better market for his services then so he will have a shot to cash in. This season he has zero shot at a long term high AAV contract. Edited July 11 by Pablo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 13 hours ago, Dango said: Penguins traded for Dumba and a 2nd round pick now they have a 1st round pick, 3- 2nds and 2- 3rds . 12 million in cap space , Bills connection i could see some type of deal where the Pens keep their 1st round pick and the east isnt the physical league that the west is so Rossi fits there Rossi for Crosby, one for one xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaWildFan Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/9/2025 at 6:16 PM, OldDutchChip said: Additionally, i fully believe that Kap has provided his thoughts on the manner and hence Rossi is still unsigned. Word on the street in Moscow, according to a well connected former KGB agent, is that Kaprizov has told Guerin that he won't sign an extension until the Rossi situation is resolved. Apparently, he wants Rossi signed or a legitimate 1C replacement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 30 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said: Word on the street in Moscow, according to a well connected former KGB agent, is that Kaprizov has told Guerin that he won't sign an extension until the Rossi situation is resolved. Apparently, he wants Rossi signed or a legitimate 1C replacement. What are Putin's thoughts on it is the real question... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, ArizonaWildFan said: Word on the street in Moscow, according to a well connected former KGB agent, is that Kaprizov has told Guerin that he won't sign an extension until the Rossi situation is resolved. Apparently, he wants Rossi signed or a legitimate 1C replacement. Rossi is not a legitimate 1C good night Zona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaWildFan Verified Member Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said: Rossi is not a legitimate 1C Is English your second language, ODC? Dutch your primary? Does something get lost in translation? The source said '... Rossi signed or a legitimate 1C replacement '. The source did not refer to Rossi as 1C. The source is former KGB but is probably still connected. Be cautious because those kind of people don't like having their words twisted. The rest of us are used to that with you and pretty much just ignore it. Welterusten! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, ArizonaWildFan said: Is English your second language, ODC? Dutch your primary? Does something get lost in translation? The source said '... Rossi signed or a legitimate 1C replacement '. The source did not refer to Rossi as 1C. The source is former KGB but is probably still connected. Be cautious because those kind of people don't like having their words twisted. The rest of us are used to that with you and pretty much just ignore it. Welterusten! if i misunderstood your fantasy dribble, i beg your forgiveness. go ahead and continue to suggest Rossi to be 1L center or his equivalent or whatever else you want - i can't and won't stop you. you, goose, and wildnotmild ("the rest of us" club) can start a Rossi fan club (if you haven't yet) or ODC hate club or whateverthefuck you want 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean5302 Verified Member Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 The 3rd round pick isn't stopping anybody from making a top offer for Rossi. It's the 1st round pick which is the deal breaker. When it comes to the 1st rounder, that's a huge variable. The first overall pick vs the 32nd, etc. I'm not sure if a team has to surrender "their" original 1st round pick or if they can trade the Wild "any" 1st round pick. I did some looking, but naturally, no articles clarified this for me. The Blackhawks have the 1st overall (and 32nd from Florida), and the Sharks (#31 from Edmonton) and the Kraken (#26 from Lightning). If the Blackhawks had to surrender the first overall pick, that'd be insane. If the Blackhawks could trade the 32nd pick, not nearly as big of a deal. Interesting article here. https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/ I'd say any pick outside the top 6ish might be fair game. So any team listed in group 3 other than Blackhawks (maybe), Penguins, Ducks, Sabers. Plus potentially the Sharks and Kraken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 7/10/2025 at 1:47 PM, hydguy75 said: One would think that if the Wings wanted Rossi, they would have put together something on the Tarasenko exit. Instead, they opted for future considerations. Does this mean even Detroit thinks he's too small for the money Rossi wants? Huh? Detroit got rid of Tarasanko because he didn’t do very well there. Probably because he was on the 3rd line and because they probably thought he was over the hill. He’s been passed around like a peace pipe the last 5 years. Tarasanko doesn’t have much worth right now. I still think he could potentially have more in the gas tank on a better team. Detroit was pretty bad last year. i think it’s possible Tarasanko puts up 40-55pts and around 20 goals if he’s on the 2nd line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 7/10/2025 at 7:41 PM, mnhockeyfan03 said: Get Rakell from Pittsburgh. He’s a good player but he’s 32.. he’s at the end of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKwildkraken Verified Member Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On 7/12/2025 at 5:14 PM, bean5302 said: The 3rd round pick isn't stopping anybody from making a top offer for Rossi. It's the 1st round pick which is the deal breaker. When it comes to the 1st rounder, that's a huge variable. The first overall pick vs the 32nd, etc. I'm not sure if a team has to surrender "their" original 1st round pick or if they can trade the Wild "any" 1st round pick. I did some looking, but naturally, no articles clarified this for me. The Blackhawks have the 1st overall (and 32nd from Florida), and the Sharks (#31 from Edmonton) and the Kraken (#26 from Lightning). If the Blackhawks had to surrender the first overall pick, that'd be insane. If the Blackhawks could trade the 32nd pick, not nearly as big of a deal. Interesting article here. https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/ I'd say any pick outside the top 6ish might be fair game. So any team listed in group 3 other than Blackhawks (maybe), Penguins, Ducks, Sabers. Plus potentially the Sharks and Kraken? It has to be the teams original picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoJoSux Verified Member Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Rossi's agent should look up what happened to Talbot or review how Suter, Parise, and Staal's entitlement attitudes worked out. Fiala's holdout wasn't a full-blown rejection either way in the immediate aftermath but the long-term result was a writing on the wall thing. Fiala-afuera!!! I think Rossi needs to recognize the timing isn't great. GMBG too. Play hockey and be good. If you wanna be a top-six player for any team, prove it again. It's only his third NHL season coming up. In the meantime, perhaps a trade comes along or the drama is put to rest once and for all. Personally, I think Russo is a clickbait machine. He's got the feed that everyone looks to, but GMBG repeatedly says the big talkers don't know jack. It's rumors and hype. Rossi is an RFA so if he's sour too bad. The market has spoken. Teams aren't any more willing to pay Rossi big money than they were to take him before MN in the draft. This subject is truly blue in the face. Wish the best for Rossi and the Wild, but they're the ones who have to work it out one way or the other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoJoSux Verified Member Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Rossi doesn't appear to be an elite 1C, he's not even a bona fide 2C superior to VGK, EDM, COL, DAL, or LA's second best centers. Top teams have true center depth. Rossi would slot in as a 3C on most contending teams. Regular season stats are not the singular and only measure. Byfield for example had just a few less points last year and is 6'5" 200+. Dallas just locked up both Duchene AND Benn for ~ 5.5M and they combined for around 130 points last season. That should put Rossi's 7M/60pts ask into perspective. Not that Rossi isn't a good, productive player, but the Wild wanted a Nelson, Hertl, Hintz type guy to play down the middle with Ek. Sturm in, Fred out is okay and I have high hopes for Yurov, but MN isn't on par with many top team's center depth. In the Central, you could agrue STL even has better center depth overall with Thomas, Schenn, and Suter. MN is a one trick pony with Ek. He takes a lot of minutes and damage. Rossi doesn't help distribute that load like other top Western Conference teams with 2-3 big, strong, productive, playoff capable guys. Maybe that could change, but it seems like a shift to the wing and a more realistic use with more appropriate expectations is the reality of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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