Justin Hein Hockey Wilderness Contributor Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago View full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Toast Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Justin thanks for the article. It’s fun to read stuff during the offseason and I like learning new things. BUT lol. I’m glad you’re not the Wild GM. Maybe you were just kidding with the “Few million dollars thing.” My suggestion would be for Rossi to learn how to deal with getting his feelings hurt without expecting a payoff to do so. Honestly he seems like the kind of guy that wouldn’t have a problem with doing that. Rossi also stated he was a team guy and said on camera he would accept the coach’s decision with playoff time and do his best. I think that adds value to Rossi’s stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago By these estimates it seems that Rossi should have just signed the 5x5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisopher Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Rossi's agent can go "shopping" all he likes. It's more like he's wandering around, hat in hand, begging for whatever another GM will give to his client. Once the lost value of the required draft picks is included (thanks Justin), there's no chance Rossi is going to get the >$7MM AAV contract that it would take to keep Guerin from matching. The one-year block on a trade might be a concern, but it's minor in the big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Very good article! When we bring up Rossi's demotion as a negative, we leave out the reality is that it creates an opportunity to steal away a player who just fell out of place with the team or coach or GM, thus it sort of neutralizes the negative. A smart GM would use it to his advantage. If Rossi is a definite top 6 player with massive upside, 1st pick is not that much. and as a GM - you can't just wait it out, because that player can come back around to the team or end up anywhere but where you want him to be. So you act. It becomes a bit dicy if you are expected to be the worse team in the league, but for most of the teams (with real/false hopes of making it to PO) getting a proven player (at a bargain) should be enticing enough to punt on a mid/late pick. But it's not. Crickets. Perhaps it's all under the radar and we'll see an influx of offer sheets from all over. But right now - it seems that everyone is in agreement with Billy's assessment of Rossi. The lack of noise, to me, means they agree with his handling and demotion. Additionally, i fully believe that Kap has provided his thoughts on the manner and hence Rossi is still unsigned. Should he do the same as for Vlady, Rossi would be signing off on 7X7. That means what happened in the PO matter. End of year reviews will tell you that they are all happy family. But that's what players supposed to say. Maybe i am wrong in my assessment - but the league has confirmed that Rossi is not yet ready for that contract. They need to see more. I don't think it's such a bad move for Rossi to go out there and prove it. It may work out better for him. Go out there kid and put a point per game and get a 9 per contract. I assure you Billy will gladly pay it. I mean it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Nice article. I was thinking a little about this last night. I think both sides are doing what they need to do. Rossi’s agent doesn’t want the 5x5 and his only real leverage is either a trade to a team that will pay him more or an offer sheet. He should be waiting. Same with Billy. He is playing the odds that no one is going to go above 35 million and change for the total of the contract to not go up a tier for a first, second and third. Worst case for Billy is someone offers Rossi a 5 x 7. But if no offers come in, Billy is in control. Still am hoping they can find some middle ground that works for both sides before that, but have a feeling this will go up until training camp or beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Toast Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Dug up some info. Rossi’s agent is Ian Pulver. He’s ranked 12th ( by $). So he’s at $410 Million in contracts, a little over 30 players. So almost half a billion dollars. So what’s happening is just normal life for these guys. (agents).Pretty sure the GM’s kind of know the routine and what reputation each agent has and how they like to negotiate. I’m done with my research project now. I’m going back to watching Top NHL Shootouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goenzoy Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Will D. Ness said: By these estimates it seems that Rossi should have just signed the 5x5. No way any player needs a contract for the next season. He doesn't need to worry about what is happening in March 2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goenzoy Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said: But right now - it seems that everyone is in agreement with Billy's assessment of Rossi. The lack of noise, to me, means they agree with his handling and demotion Your statement is just laughable .To you really think that there is any GM in NHL today who thinks about demotion of a player when building a roster for upcoming season .Even thought s about fly fishing will cross their minds more often in July. Rossi is in very good position because he just needs one year contract. All GM s do have a far more difficult job in this regard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago 33 minutes ago, goenzoy said: Your statement is just laughable .To you really think that there is any GM in NHL today who thinks about demotion of a player when building a roster for upcoming season .Even thought s about fly fishing will cross their minds more often in July. Rossi is in very good position because he just needs one year contract. All GM s do have a far more difficult job in this regard Smart GMs will use a situation to their advantage - yes. They do it all the time to try to get ahead in the deal. Fly fishing is fine of course, but GMs have a job to do too. Not sure about the rest. Yes Rossi needs a contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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