B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, fikifuka said: If that happens Guerin ends as the greatest idiot. He could have gotten R for much less and could have traded him later anyway. I get that most of you guys don't agree with my projection which is completely fine. The point, the difference here is that you believe that there is no readyness in the market to offer him >7.1 M AAV now. I'm sure there are at least 3 teams (Kalisha mentioned them) who are ready to offer a big contract with the clear goal to get him and ship out 1,2,3 picks. One of them will bite sooner or later. Vancouver teased and testet BG with the sole #15 pick, more or less telling him: 'So you value him at 5 M, fine - so this is what you get'. So everybody is wrong to conclude that "nobody is ready to offersheet > 7.1M". And nobody will trade a good Center for Rossi. And btw without a good additional C, if its R or another one, BG is one injury or/and losing stretch away from getting fired. Why though? His own team that's developed him doesn't even want to give him $7M AAV when it won't cost them draft picks. Why are you so certain some other team will want to do what the Wild are unwilling AND forfeit the meat of their picks in what's currently regarded as a strong draft on top of it? He doesn't even play on our top PP unit unless there's a bunch of injuries. When Buffalo turned down a package for Peterka centered around Rossi, I think that should've been pretty demonstrative of how he's viewed around the league. Nice point totals, nice guy, not what teams are looking to build their club with. Especially after his post-season showing. I know it was his first ever appearance but it was pretty eye-opening to see how everyone raised their physical play another notch.. except for Marco Rossi. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago The idea of a one-year offersheet that's insanely priced would be a good one except that I think the Wild have clearly made it so they have room leftover to match most offers. As of now we have $10.1M in cap. So if somebody came in at a $10.2M contract for Rossi, they'd be giving up 2x 1st, 1x 2nd, and 1x 3rd. Honestly if Chicago wanted to do that, I think Guerin would be perfectly happy taking their 1st round picks in the next two drafts while they try to get out of the rebuild phase... those would be some valuable trade chips. Much better than the Wild's draft picks, even without Marco. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, Pablo said: The blackhawks will probs do a 5 yr 40M offer. Guerin will likely match it and trade Rossi to someone else 2 yrs from now when Rossi is a point per game player and $8M AAV is looking like a bargain. Guerin will get a haul in the trade. Love this idea. I doubt Chicago is too interested in getting Rossi though. They went after the big Swedish center in the draft over Caleb Desnoyers for a reason. They've already got Bedard and Frank Nazar as undersized Cs, why add a 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said: Love this idea. I doubt Chicago is too interested in getting Rossi though. They went after the big Swedish center in the draft over Caleb Desnoyers for a reason. They've already got Bedard and Frank Nazar as undersized Cs, why add a 3rd? BIGK97 you’re spot on - loss of pick is major deterrence to a lottery team…there is NO way Chi offer sheets Rossi - they are still one of the worse teams out there - they want to give us a top 5 pick or the top pick? Why? So that they can construct one of the tiniest 1C and 2C line in hockey? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago If a team, say the Blackhawks, want to F with Billy, they can offer sheet Rossi 1 year just under the $7,020,114. If Billy matches, Rossi gets his 7 mill, can't be traded until next offseason and and we do it all again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Today, I came across this article and thought this was very interesting: Quote Mason McTavish may be the most intriguing name still unsigned this NHL offseason. The Anaheim Ducks forward remains a restricted free agent, and while Anaheim holds the right to match any offer sheet, NHL insider Jeff Marek reports that McTavish is on the radar of multiple teams. His name has surfaced in trade rumors, and with reported frustration over his role in Anaheim, questions about his future are growing louder. McTavish Still Eligible for Offer Sheet, Frustrated by Role Unlike teammate Lukas Dostal, who filed for salary arbitration and is no longer eligible for an offer sheet, McTavish did not elect arbitration, making him fair game for offer sheets. According to Evolving Hockey projections, a potential six-year, $6.683 million AAV offer could test the Ducks' resolve. Meanwhile, David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period reports that McTavish is “not happy” with his reduced role in Anaheim, which has taken a hit due to the emergence of Leo Carlsson. After posting a career-best 52 points (22G, 30A) last season, the 22-year-old feels underutilized. Canadiens Connection and Trade Possibilities Pagnotta recently speculated that the Montreal Canadiens could be monitoring the McTavish situation. Montreal is searching for a second-line center, and McTavish fits the mold. The Canadiens, however, are low on trade capital after moves for Noah Dobson and Zachary Bolduc. While Pat Verbeek is unlikely to trade McTavish without a serious return, mounting frustration from the player could shift the balance. McTavish’s size (6'1", 219 lbs), skillset, and all-around game make him an attractive piece for teams looking to make a splash, whether by trade or offer sheet. Mason McTavish would fit in perfectly with us. This could be where we swap out Rossi for McTavish. My belief is that Rossi will outscore McTavish in the regular season, but McTavish will shine in the playoffs. This is the exact type of player that Guerin was trying to get to help Ek out. I believe McTavish fits in perfectly as a #2C and I have no problems going to battle with Ek and McTavish as our top 2 centers. I do believe that a trade involving McTavish would include Rossi, but we're probably going to have to give up a little more. Should this happen, we should see Christmas ornaments all over this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, Pablo said: The blackhawks will probs do a 5 yr 40M offer. Guerin will likely match it and trade Rossi to someone else 2 yrs from now when Rossi is a point per game player and $8M AAV is looking like a bargain. Guerin will get a haul in the trade. I would suggest that should this actually take place, Guerin accepts the compensation and looks forward to a lottery ticket this coming draft. A 1, 2, 3 from Chicago is a recipe for 2 really nice pieces in this upcoming draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 hours ago, fikifuka said: If that happens Guerin ends as the greatest idiot. He could have gotten R for much less and could have traded him later anyway. I get that most of you guys don't agree with my projection which is completely fine. The point, the difference here is that you believe that there is no readyness in the market to offer him >7.1 M AAV now. I'm sure there are at least 3 teams (Kalisha mentioned them) who are ready to offer a big contract with the clear goal to get him and ship out 1,2,3 picks. One of them will bite sooner or later. Vancouver teased and testet BG with the sole #15 pick, more or less telling him: 'So you value him at 5 M, fine - so this is what you get'. So everybody is wrong to conclude that "nobody is ready to offersheet > 7.1M". And nobody will trade a good Center for Rossi. And btw without a good additional C, if its R or another one, BG is one injury or/and losing stretch away from getting fired. 20/20 hindsight is great. I disagree with the whole premise here. I don't see any team coming calling for their 2026 draft. But if it's Chicago, I'm all in on the compensation. A trade with the Duck's, however, would make me smile. (McTavish) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, FredJohnson said: If a team, say the Blackhawks, want to F with Billy, they can offer sheet Rossi 1 year just under the $7,020,114. If Billy matches, Rossi gets his 7 mill, can't be traded until next offseason and and we do it all again. I'd be ok with it playing out this way. But, I'd also watch my back as the Blackhawks GM, Guerin will have him circled as the guy he will make sure he gets revenge on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago McTavish is intriguing. If it isn't a 1:1 swap with Rossi, then it is pretty damn close... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, mnfaninnc said: I would suggest that should this actually take place, Guerin accepts the compensation and looks forward to a lottery ticket this coming draft. A 1, 2, 3 from Chicago is a recipe for 2 really nice pieces in this upcoming draft. This^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, mnfaninnc said: I'd be ok with it playing out this way. But, I'd also watch my back as the Blackhawks GM, Guerin will have him circled as the guy he will make sure he gets revenge on. If Billy lasts long enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 26 minutes ago Share Posted 26 minutes ago 57 minutes ago, FredJohnson said: If Billy lasts long enough... I don't think Shooter's in any trouble and his seat is nice and cool. In the last 5 years, OCL has made a lot of money by not having to pay to the employment ceiling. Cap money is Monopoly money, for what he actually had to pay Suter/Parise, it isn't even close to the cap problems. Shooter is doing just fine. On another note, nobody in ownership cares what we think about him as a GM. Nobody cares that he was 1 and done in the playoffs during the last 5 years. That was never the promise. The promise was to get there. He delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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