Tony Abbott Administrator Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 View full article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Yes! Chicago / Nashville please offer sheet Rossi for 7 plus and give us your top 5 pick 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Surprise Deal of the Day Prediction - Voronkov ends up in a Wild uni while Rossi ends up in Columbus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaWildFan Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Merry Christmas! Very insightful piece, Tony. Billy is going to have to swallow hard on the Rossi situation or it very well could come back to bite him in the butt even worse than it already has. Facing any of the other Central teams with Rossi wearing one of their sweaters would really be rubbing salt into the wound. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I know it's only July 1st and the first day of free agency. But after three years of mediocre hockey during the buyout years with promises of greatness when the cap hit came off, I am underwhelmed thus far. Taking on the guy from Detroit and his 4.75 salary cap hit after he scored a whopping 11 goals in 80 games doesn't give cause for excitement from the fan base. After all this waiting we hear Guerin whining about how few options they have WHAT??? We should be used to the bs by now. They are going to have to do a lot more to convince me they are serious. Oh yes they will tout the upcoming signing of Kaprisov. But he was already here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 The Wild would match 7M for Winnipeg. The rest? I don't know if they would risk a lottery pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Also, it seems kind of juvenile to go out of your way to drive up the RFA cost of a guy 0.5M in the bigger scope of things. Is Winnipeg GM that petty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Stank signs for 8x6. I’ve gotta believe that sets the ceiling for Rossi. I think teams would rather have stank than Rossi given choice. Even though he’s a wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 11 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: Stank signs for 8x6. I’ve gotta believe that sets the ceiling for Rossi. I think teams would rather have stank than Rossi given choice. Even though he’s a wing. I was thinking the opposite and that it set the floor. Stankoven is one inch shorter and almost twenty pounds lighter than Rossi and has played one less season. He scored 38 points this year with is similar to what Rossi did in his first year, but doesn’t have the second season at 60 yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fikifuka Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 You just don't go to Winnipeg, not even for big money 🤑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Detroit will probably offer sheet Rossi with there new found cap space . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 23 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said: I was thinking the opposite and that it set the floor. Stankoven is one inch shorter and almost twenty pounds lighter than Rossi and has played one less season. He scored 38 points this year with is similar to what Rossi did in his first year, but doesn’t have the second season at 60 yet. I'll take that bet. I do understand Rossi is open to the market for all teams to bid, while Stank's was a one team negotiation, but I'll still take the bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: I'll take that bet. I do understand Rossi is open to the market for all teams to bid, while Stank's was a one team negotiation, but I'll still take the bet. Rossi might end up as a one team negotiation too with no real option to get more than what he is offered by us. I guess what I meant by floor is not what he may end up getting, but what his team will use in trying to negotiate his contract. If I am his agent, I am saying this guy got this and hasn’t done as much as my guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 The Wild better have offer sheeted Vilardi at 11:00:01 this morning. Why not, nothing to lose and perfectly fills their needs if they get away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, greg said: After all this waiting we hear Guerin whining about how few options they have WHAT??? What's funny or ironic about this is that several other teams made significant moves, no problem. Billy finally had the cap space and some assets to do something big and sat on his hands. Instead he opted for his usual MO, getting over the hill throw aways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 3 minutes ago, Scalptrash said: What's funny or ironic about this is that several other teams made significant moves, no problem. Billy finally had the cap space and some assets to do something big and sat on his hands. Instead he opted for his usual MO, getting over the hill throw aways. What teams made significant moves besides signing their own players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Boeser stays with Vancouver. $7.25Mx7. Surprising, he could have gotten a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 6 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said: What teams made significant moves besides signing their own players? These are the just the bigger names that Wild could have benefitted from. Marner Peterka Dobson Kane Coyle Zegras Marchment Kreider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Dean said: Detroit will probably offer sheet Rossi with there new found cap space . Wouldn't that be something...Lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 11 minutes ago, Scalptrash said: These are the just the bigger names that Wild could have benefitted from. Marner Peterka Dobson Kane Coyle Zegras Marchment Kreider Did you just list all the players that were traded? Marner was not coming here. Vegas through in Roy so they wouldn't get hit with tampering charges. We made an offer for Paterka. Dobson? Did we really need to add another defenseman, let alone at $9.5M. Evander Kane? Huge risk with his injury history. Everyone else you mention I would not count as a significant move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 15 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said: Did you just list all the players that were traded? Marner was not coming here. Vegas through in Roy so they wouldn't get hit with tampering charges. We made an offer for Paterka. Dobson? Did we really need to add another defenseman, let alone at $9.5M. Evander Kane? Huge risk with his injury history. Everyone else you mention I would not count as a significant move. Are you just arguing to argue? You asked what big names have been traded, there is a list. There have been moves, some big moves, but the Wild have made zero. Except use up more cap space for another has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 12 minutes ago, Scalptrash said: Are you just arguing to argue? You asked what big names have been traded, there is a list. There have been moves, some big moves, but the Wild have made zero. Except use up more cap space for another has been. I asked what teams made significant moves. Marner would have went to Vegas regardless whether he was traded or not. We offered for Paterka supposedly and Dobson was never a player we would have wanted. Those are really the only 3 big names that have been moved. My point to your original post was there really wasn’t anyone significant that we could have gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 minute ago, SkolWild73 said: I asked what teams made significant moves. Marner would have went to Vegas regardless whether he was traded or not. We offered for Paterka supposedly and Dobson was never a player we would have wanted. Those are really the only 3 big names that have been moved. My point to your original post was there really wasn’t anyone significant that we could have gotten. You can't do anything if you never try. Skilled/intelligent GM's get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaWildFan Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Could the problem be Guerin's mindset? His two priorities in the offseason were signing Kaprizov and dumping Rossi. Signing Kaprizov is almost a given. But dumping Rossi has been a challenge; a challenge that Billy created by himself. GMBG has shown his hand to other GM's regarding Rossi for a couple years. Why would you make a nice offer for something you know the other guy doesn't value and wants to get rid of? Hypothetically, if Guerin would have signed Rossi to an extension last season, he could have used him more effectively as a trade piece now. Hindsight is 20/20, but showing disdain publicly for the last couple seasons got Guerin in his current predicament. Bill Guerin is his own worst enemy and the Wild organization and fans as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said: Wouldn't that be something...Lol... in all likelihood - DET is not in the PO next year and likely be towards the bottom of the standing.... it would be kinda awesome for us to luck in to their top 5 pick. so i'd be fine if they went after Rossi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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