Article: The Wild and Hockey World Are Overthinking It With Marco Rossi

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

My fear is that hard headed thin skin bill will stick to his guns and trade Rossi for a 3rd & 4th next year + a 25 yr old defenseman project, just so that he can show us all he’s right.   How many more years of this people?

i don't think so. he is obviously consulting with Kap so that he is assured that there is a plan and a plan that he agrees to. i think bill is patient (and rightfully so) to not get stuck with average players. if needs to, he will wait to make a splash. 

this also means that Rossi is just not in their plans (not just billy's) - the leadership on the ice has expressed their views. they are moving on eventually from Rossi. but they won't just dump him. 

Edited June 29 by OldDutchChip

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

The Wild still have a center depth issue for the upcoming season as it sits on the 29th of June. Spit balling here, but two UFA names are intriguing to me: Claude Giroux and Jack McBain.

Giroux had his career best FO% at over 60% with Ottawa last season and is probably looking for a one year deal at $4M. Think of him as this season's Fleury and the impact he could have on the team and younger players.

McBain spurned the Wild after four years of college and landed in Arizona. Not sure of the exact reason, but it was rumored that he didn't think he would crack the roster and didn't want to linger in Des Moines.

He's 6'4", 210-ish and certainly plays with grit. He also had a career best 50% FO win season last year. He's coming off a $1.6M AAV contract and Utah may not give him the bump he's looking for. Not great career stats, but his entire career has been in AZ/UT, not a great place to build stats.

Ek, Rossi, Giroux, McBain and a developing Yurov doesn't sound terrible up the middle. And it certainly sounds better than what we have on June 29th.

GM zona! you do know that Giroux is going to be 38 this year? go back to sleep please!

[Need4speed99]

I think the rest of the league values rossi but Billy handled it all wrong.

The rest of the league knows Billy doesn't want and now with how he's been treated, rossi doesn't really want to be here.

What other GM is going to give up a ton when they know both sides want to be done, and while a good player rossi is not elite. He doesn't have the flashy skills or pedigree of an Eichal or Tachuk so who is going to give up a bunch of really good NHL ready players?

Love the article Tony. I think you are spot on with rossi.

[Enforceror]

3 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

GM zona! you do know that Giroux is going to be 38 this year? go back to sleep please!

Moot point. Another year in Ottawa for Giroux.

What a weird FA year.

[ArizonaWildFan]

6 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

GM zona! you do know that Giroux is going to be 38 this year? go back to sleep please!

Moot point because he signed for one year at $2M. Good for him and Ottawa. I would take a 38 year old center with his pedigree that scored 50 points and was over 60% in the circle last year for $2M for one year in a heartbeat.

Not as good a deal as that PLAYOFF BEAST (Trenin) at $3.5M for four years, though?

[ArizonaWildFan]

Claude Giroux is five months older than Brad Marchand BTW.

[mnfaninnc]

From where I'm sitting, the thing that jumps off the page with me is the effect he has on Hartman and Foligno. It seems like that should be a line. I discount Johansson mainly because he looks like he's with the bottom dwellers now.

For me, putting 2 guys into the 60s who don't normally play there would be a good thing. No idea what line number you put on it, it just looks like it would be a dominant line. 

So, I wonder, was this what Heinzy was thinking when he put Rossi with Trenin and Breezers? Maybe Rossi wasn't in the doghouse and never was, they were just trying to create some secondary scoring and Heinzy liked his lines? 

Or, maybe the obvious scenario occurred and for reasons unknown and Rossi was in the doghouse. You'd think that when you were getting nothing out of Gaudreau, you'd have the presence of mind to switch the 2 centers. It's not like Rossi is any more undersized than Gaudreau is, or any grittier.

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

Moot point because he signed for one year at $2M. Good for him and Ottawa. I would take a 38 year old center with his pedigree that scored 50 points and was over 60% in the circle last year for $2M for one year in a heartbeat.

Not as good a deal as that PLAYOFF BEAST (Trenin) at $3.5M for four years, though?

i don't care about neither claude nor ottawa. 

[Burnt Toast]

10 hours ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

UFA names

Nico Sturm 

[ArizonaWildFan]

I'm disappointed. I was hoping for a vintage ODC BOLD response:

Claude Giroux is five months older than Brad Marchand BTW. Five human months is almost three dog years so Giroux is a lot older than Marchand.

Or:

I would take a 38 year old center with his pedigree that scored 50 points and was over 60% in the circle last year for $2M for one year in a heartbeat. More stats and stats don't matter unless I want to use stats to try to validate my point.

Time for me to go back to sleep.

[OldDutchChip]

50 minutes ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

I'm disappointed. I was hoping for a vintage ODC BOLD response:

Claude Giroux is five months older than Brad Marchand BTW. Five human months is almost three dog years so Giroux is a lot older than Marchand.

Or:

I would take a 38 year old center with his pedigree that scored 50 points and was over 60% in the circle last year for $2M for one year in a heartbeat. More stats and stats don't matter unless I want to use stats to try to validate my point.

Time for me to go back to sleep.

good night

[WildNotMild]

2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

i don't care about neither claude nor ottawa. 

Hard to follow as usual.  BT plays for Ottawa and you have been proposing fantasy trades between the Wild and Ottawa for months.  Flip-flop away.  Cheers!

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, WildNotMild said:

Hard to follow as usual.  BT plays for Ottawa and you have been proposing fantasy trades between the Wild and Ottawa for months.  Flip-flop away.  Cheers!

If he plays for MN or a potential trade/FA signee - I’m interested 

otherwise - I’m not

get it? F off

[ArizonaWildFan]

Good morning children. It's Christmas Eve! Time to write your letters to Nomovement Clause (Billy G.) and tell him what you want for Christmas on July 1st. Remember not to ask Nomovement for too much because funds are limited and "1C's don't grow on trees". In the spirit of the holidays, please be respectful of what the other boys and girls ask for and don't tease or make fun of them (that starts with me).

Here's what I want: a Kirill Kaprizov for five years at the lowest AAV that he will sign for; a Marco Rossi for Boldy terms; and a nice chunk of cap space left over to be used at the trade deadline.

Thank you Nomovement Clause,

ArizonaWildFan

[fikifuka]

1 hour ago, ArizonaWildFan said:

Good morning children. It's Christmas Eve! Time to write your letters to Nomovement Clause (Billy G.) and tell him what you want for Christmas on July 1st. Remember not to ask Nomovement for too much because funds are limited and "1C's don't grow on trees". In the spirit of the holidays, please be respectful of what the other boys and girls ask for and don't tease or make fun of them (that starts with me).

Here's what I want: a Kirill Kaprizov for five years at the lowest AAV that he will sign for; a Marco Rossi for Boldy terms; and a nice chunk of cap space left over to be used at the trade deadline.

Thank you Nomovement Clause,

 

The big question is: Does KK sign first and rely on BG to improve the roster properly later. Or KK waits with what BG comes along and decides then about his peak-years-contract.