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Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Good. Get things figured out with Rossi so they aren't running Hartman, Gaudreau, or Yurov at 2C. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 See, the thing with SillyG is that when it makes a ton of sense to trade a player, and the fans are all expecting it (Dumba) he holds the dude and mumbles something about 'sometimes the best trade is no trade' or 'picks arent worth as much as people give credit for' Then, other times, he puts guys in the absolute dog house, and takes the first trade that comes along (Fiala). Mumbles something about how 'sure i could have gotten more, but this guy is dogshit and I dont want other GM's to not be my buddy anymore, anybody want to pick up my tab at Tooties?!?!' Maybe our scouting staff had Faber pegged as a sure thing, but I feel its more likely that a blind squirrel found his rare nut. I think Rossi is going to be traded, and I think the return is going to be absolutely underwhelming. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 55 minutes ago, MrCheatachu said: See, the thing with SillyG is that when it makes a ton of sense to trade a player, and the fans are all expecting it (Dumba) he holds the dude and mumbles something about 'sometimes the best trade is no trade' or 'picks arent worth as much as people give credit for' Then, other times, he puts guys in the absolute dog house, and takes the first trade that comes along (Fiala). Mumbles something about how 'sure i could have gotten more, but this guy is dogshit and I dont want other GM's to not be my buddy anymore, anybody want to pick up my tab at Tooties?!?!' Maybe our scouting staff had Faber pegged as a sure thing, but I feel its more likely that a blind squirrel found his rare nut. I think Rossi is going to be traded, and I think the return is going to be absolutely underwhelming. Unfortunately for Wild fans, MrC wins the internet today. Great summary of thin skin's bill GM'ing abilities. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raithis Verified Member Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Even if we can't pick up a top 6 center in Free Agency this off-season, it's not all bad. First of all, that's a challenge most off-seasons as teams just don't give those players up until well after their primed - and if they do it's in trades or the free agent doesn't likely have the Wild high on potential destinations. Secondly, we just got some cap flexibility back. The worst thing we can do is get into a bidding war just because we have the cap space to throw around. That includes Rossi. Offer him a fair contract, but if he wants the moon, then maybe it's just not going to work out. Thirdly, look at players that can add some offense (ideally someone who is regularly in that 20-30 goal range). If Rossi continues to hold out, then to at least we partially replace his production. If he signs too, then even better. Also see #2. Fourth, try to leave some cap space to work with at the trade deadline. Fifth, get someone with a good history of developing players down in Iowa and keep working them. Ideally some progress and a few more start knocking hard on the door for 2026-27 (Lambos/Bankier, I'm mostly looking at you). I'd like to see both show well in training camp, and be among the first as injury call-ups during the season. Show everyone you belong in the NHL. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 If the big splashes are gone, I'm ok with waiting until around January to start reconfiguring the roster. Heck, Colorado did it all last season. It's not my money, but I'm in favor of spending it wisely. We can take on cap, that might be valuable half way through the season. I think we missed the boat on Kreider, I think he could have helped. But, nobody wants to report whether or not we were in on it and Kreider wouldn't waive his NMC to come here. If we weren't in on it, I'd sure like to know why! I'd also be interested in Lafreniere. He's still pretty young, if you take some pressure off of him, perhaps he shines. Right now, though, buying low would be the key. He's set to move up in the lineup, so, maybe that helps him. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenihami Verified Member Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 As I've been saying for the past three years, our cap space is merely "okay" this off-season. There are better options for the better players and the Wild may have to overpay for good players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 6/16/2025 at 8:32 AM, MrCheatachu said: Maybe our scouting staff had Faber pegged as a sure thing, but I feel its more likely that a blind squirrel found his rare nut. Right and then found others in Gustavvson and Middleton.. We've got one uber lucky blind squirrel running the show... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Quote That includes Rossi. Offer him a fair contract, but if he wants the moon, then maybe it's just not going to work out. They are $2M (per season) and two years apart. I think Billy is trying to protect Boldy's feelings by not giving Rossi the same contract, even though it's two years removed and completely justifiable. It's easier to trade Rossi than deal with the headache and hurt feelings. The point is, he underpaid Boldy, who is now a steal in today's dollars. Offer Rossi $6.9 x 7 and he'll probably take it. No feelings hurt and completely fair in today's market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 11 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said: Right and then found others in Gustavvson and Middleton.. We've got one uber lucky blind squirrel running the show... Addison, Nyquist, MoJo, Reaves, Lauko, Johansson, Trenin, Nyquist, Trenin, Brazeau, Kulikov, Klinger, Goligoski, Trenin...Greatest hits album right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 8 hours ago, MrCheatachu said: Addison, Nyquist, MoJo, Reaves, Lauko, Johansson, Trenin, Nyquist, Trenin, Brazeau, Kulikov, Klinger, Goligoski, Trenin...Greatest hits album right there. Nobody hits 100% and its not like any of those are long-term impacts. If those are the 'greatest hits' of misses, then Guerin is doing pretty damn well tbh... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 20 hours ago, Scalptrash said: They are $2M (per season) and two years apart. I think Billy is trying to protect Boldy's feelings by not giving Rossi the same contract, even though it's two years removed and completely justifiable. It's easier to trade Rossi than deal with the headache and hurt feelings. The point is, he underpaid Boldy, who is now a steal in today's dollars. Offer Rossi $6.9 x 7 and he'll probably take it. No feelings hurt and completely fair in today's market. I think Guerin just recognizes the leverage he has versus Rossi's agent. Which is what you want a GM to take advantage of. Especially with good players. Right now, Rossi and his agent are clearly hoping for an offer sheet that pays off more than the contract Guerin has offered them. Rossi can only either accept what the Wild offer, hope he gets an offer sheet they won't match or not play in the NHL. Guerin has no reason to bid against himself. The contract he offered Rossi is a fair length, it takes him right to UFA, and a fair cap-hit for the team relative to what he's done for us so far. An average of 50 points per season is right in line with a $5M AAV. All Rossi can do right now is hope some other team wants to overpay him, and give up the draft capital for doing so, otherwise he has little choice but to take the 5-year deal on the table unless he's so upset about getting a 286+% raise that he'd rather retire prematurely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said: An average of 50 points per season is right in line with a $5M AAV. Nelson just got paid 7.5M x 3 years for 56 points? Maybe three years ago in the flat cap era you could get 50 pts for 5M but not in the new enviroment with the rising cap. Noah Cates got 4M X 4 years@ 26 years old for 40 pts last year. Kyle Palmieri got 4.75M X 2 Years for 45 pts last season @ 34 years old. Matt Coronato got 6.5M X 7 years @ age 22 playing on the wing after putting up 47 pts and being the same size as Rossi. I think there is a big defference between a 40pt guy and a 60pt guy. It also matters on age and term. With the talent available, it is going to be a players market but i am interested to see what kind of contracts we see come July 1st, that will be the true player value test. Until then it is just idle speculation as to what the market will be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 57 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said: Nelson just got paid 7.5M x 3 years for 56 points? Maybe three years ago in the flat cap era you could get 50 pts for 5M but not in the new enviroment with the rising cap. Noah Cates got 4M X 4 years@ 26 years old for 40 pts last year. Kyle Palmieri got 4.75M X 2 Years for 45 pts last season @ 34 years old. Matt Coronato got 6.5M X 7 years @ age 22 playing on the wing after putting up 47 pts and being the same size as Rossi. I think there is a big defference between a 40pt guy and a 60pt guy. It also matters on age and term. With the talent available, it is going to be a players market but i am interested to see what kind of contracts we see come July 1st, that will be the true player value test. Until then it is just idle speculation as to what the market will be like. Nelson also could have hit UFA and gotten a bidding war going for him. Rossi does not have that advantage. The fact his signing also comes with a forfeiture of picks for any team giving him an offersheet will depress his value. I get why they want more than $5M AAV for him, but the team is also doing him a solid by making it a 5-year deal, so its a give and take. Not ideal for Rossi but not unfair either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNotMild Verified Member Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Watch Billy trade Rossi to Vancouver for Boeser just so that he can get Boeser for 8 years, essentially a sign and trade deal. To make it a “fair” deal in Billy’s mind, he will also get the 15th pick. The Canucks websites are all over this type of scenario and getting a 2C for a steal because Billy could sign Boeser as a free agent with no compensation. The market for Rossi is definitely 7x7. Boldy didn’t put up nearly as many points as a winger when he got his deal under a lower total cap. Center is a premium position. Many teams would happily sign a 23 year old center with a 60 point season to a 7x7, they just don’t want to give away so much draft capital and/or know that Billy’s ego got himself into a corner and they can trade for Rossi at a discounted rate and then sign him to a 7x7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, WildNotMild said: Watch Billy trade Rossi to Vancouver for Boeser just so that he can get Boeser for 8 years, essentially a sign and trade deal. To make it a “fair” deal in Billy’s mind, he will also get the 15th pick. The Canucks websites are all over this type of scenario and getting a 2C for a steal because Billy could sign Boeser as a free agent with no compensation. The market for Rossi is definitely 7x7. Boldy didn’t put up nearly as many points as a winger when he got his deal under a lower total cap. Center is a premium position. Many teams would happily sign a 23 year old center with a 60 point season to a 7x7, they just don’t want to give away so much draft capital and/or know that Billy’s ego got himself into a corner and they can trade for Rossi at a discounted rate and then sign him to a 7x7. Many teams would happily sign a 23 year old center with a 60 point season to a 7x7 good for Rossi and Wild then - when he finds one team that offers him 7 per - he can let Bill know. Right now - it doesn't look like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNotMild Verified Member Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, OldDutchChip said: Many teams would happily sign a 23 year old center with a 60 point season to a 7x7 good for Rossi and Wild then - when he finds one team that offers him 7 per - he can let Bill know. Right now - it doesn't look like it. An offer sheet that ALSO requires draft compensation is MUCH DIFFERENT than a trade and then signing him. If he was an UFA, do you really think another team wouldn’t sign him to a 7x7? If so, please do some other team’s website/boards research. Please read the words from me and others that are actually written instead of reading what you want to argue. Otherwise, cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 2 hours ago, WildNotMild said: An offer sheet that ALSO requires draft compensation is MUCH DIFFERENT than a trade and then signing him. If he was an UFA, do you really think another team wouldn’t sign him to a 7x7? If so, please do some other team’s website/boards research. Please read the words from me and others that are actually written instead of reading what you want to argue. Otherwise, cheers! An offer sheet that ALSO requires draft compensation is MUCH DIFFERENT than a trade and then signing him. is that an excuse that you lined up for why Rossi is getting no one to bite? the amazing Rossi cannot get an offer sheet because of the compensation.....right - maybe then he is not worth the $ or the picks 🤔 imagine Boldy in his shoes - i think most teams would jump at 7 and 1st pick to pry him away....not so much for Rossi. his cost is that of Duchene and Donato = 4.5. If he was an UFA, do you really think another team wouldn’t sign him to a 7x7? he would be the most thought after Free Agent in this class - no doubt! 💩 If so, please do some other team’s website/boards research. research for what happens if Rossi is UFA? huh? Please read the words from me and others that are actually written instead of reading what you want to argue. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNotMild Verified Member Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 30 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: An offer sheet that ALSO requires draft compensation is MUCH DIFFERENT than a trade and then signing him. is that an excuse that you lined up for why Rossi is getting no one to bite? the amazing Rossi cannot get an offer sheet because of the compensation.....right - maybe then he is not worth the $ or the picks 🤔 imagine Boldy in his shoes - i think most teams would jump at 7 and 1st pick to pry him away....not so much for Rossi. his cost is that of Duchene and Donato = 4.5. If he was an UFA, do you really think another team wouldn’t sign him to a 7x7? he would be the most thought after Free Agent in this class - no doubt! 💩 If so, please do some other team’s website/boards research. research for what happens if Rossi is UFA? huh? Please read the words from me and others that are actually written instead of reading what you want to argue. huh? You quoted me incorrectly in your first post. I clearly said in my original post that teams would pay Rossi 7x7 if there were no draft pick compensation AND why would a team offer draft picks when Billy clearly wants to trade him. If Rossi does get traded, you really think that his new deal with another team would only be 4.5 per?!? Billy offered him 5x5 before his 60 point season was done. I said Nelson would get 7+ per and many people on this platform said I was wrong, crazy, etc. Guess what, he got 7.5 per BECAUSE the cap has gone up and all contracts are going up. No way Boldy gets a 7x7 today, it would be higher because the cap is higher. Same way Boldy’s contract was higher than Ek’s even though Boldy hadn’t done nearly as much. People were squawking about Boldy’s deal being crazy to now thinking it is a bargain. Research about how other fans view the Wild/Billy/Rossi situation. Other platforms like this for other teams show a lot of fans would be happy to get Rossi, but see no reason to go the offer sheet route when Billy wants to dump him. See first paragraph of this post where you clearly misquoted me. Please keep flip flopping about how Kaprizov is guaranteed gone if the Wild don’t win first round, trade the young core away to create multiple holes in the lineup, saying the young guys like Buium haven’t done ANYTHING and aren’t worth ANYTHING but also trying to use them as the main piece to trade for a top 10 player, playing fantasy GM with trade proposals for multiple players for top 10 guys, to saying Kaprizov is all that matters even though you have adamantly already said he is gone. Please consider that you are the only one who can’t seem to read and understand so many other people’s posts and insist on arguing with almost anyone who doesn’t already just ignore you. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 1 hour ago, WildNotMild said: You quoted me incorrectly in your first post. I clearly said in my original post that teams would pay Rossi 7x7 if there were no draft pick compensation AND why would a team offer draft picks when Billy clearly wants to trade him. If Rossi does get traded, you really think that his new deal with another team would only be 4.5 per?!? Billy offered him 5x5 before his 60 point season was done. I said Nelson would get 7+ per and many people on this platform said I was wrong, crazy, etc. Guess what, he got 7.5 per BECAUSE the cap has gone up and all contracts are going up. No way Boldy gets a 7x7 today, it would be higher because the cap is higher. Same way Boldy’s contract was higher than Ek’s even though Boldy hadn’t done nearly as much. People were squawking about Boldy’s deal being crazy to now thinking it is a bargain. Research about how other fans view the Wild/Billy/Rossi situation. Other platforms like this for other teams show a lot of fans would be happy to get Rossi, but see no reason to go the offer sheet route when Billy wants to dump him. See first paragraph of this post where you clearly misquoted me. Please keep flip flopping about how Kaprizov is guaranteed gone if the Wild don’t win first round, trade the young core away to create multiple holes in the lineup, saying the young guys like Buium haven’t done ANYTHING and aren’t worth ANYTHING but also trying to use them as the main piece to trade for a top 10 player, playing fantasy GM with trade proposals for multiple players for top 10 guys, to saying Kaprizov is all that matters even though you have adamantly already said he is gone. Please consider that you are the only one who can’t seem to read and understand so many other people’s posts and insist on arguing with almost anyone who doesn’t already just ignore you. Cheers. i quoted you correctly, but just not fully - i apologize for that. but the point was that if teams do not value Rossi enough to part with a first rounder, then you may want to take notice and rethink what type of a player Rossi is and what his worth is. If Rossi was as good as you believe he is - then teams would be OK parting with a first rounder to steal him from us. But they are not. Yet - that doesn't register with you and other stubborn Rossi fanatics - you fail to take any criticism on Rossi. He literally can do no wrong. The entire league has him as a 5 mil player. Yet you want to overpay. You do understand that if no team gives him his 7 per then he has no choice but to come back to us or go to KHL or sit out? Other platforms like this for other teams show a lot of fans would be happy to get Rossi, but see no reason to go the offer sheet route when Billy wants to dump him do you follow all the teams and read thru the comments? which team is waiting on the dump? If Rossi does get traded, you really think that his new deal with another team would only be 4.5 per?!? that matters very little. what matters is how much he will be paid while playing for Wild. Billy offered him 5x5 before his 60 point season was Billy offered him 5 and given the $s for Duchene and Donato - i think that's fair. I said Nelson would get 7+ per and many people on this platform said I was wrong, crazy, etc. Guess what, he got 7.5 per BECAUSE the cap has gone up and all contracts are going up. so why did Duchene and Donato got 4.5? you think Rossi is that much better than them? Yet teams still do not want to part with a pick to pluck Rossi away - such a mystery! No way Boldy gets a 7x7 today, it would be higher because the cap is higher. Same way Boldy’s contract was higher than Ek’s even though Boldy hadn’t done nearly as much. People were squawking about Boldy’s deal being crazy to now thinking it is a bargain. Ok fine Boldy gets 8 - the teams still would gladly throw a pick for him. Isn't Rossi a top 6 material? Yet teams are not budging on the pick? Well then - Rossi is out of luck. He plays if Billy is nice enough to offer him the same contract. Whether or not you think he is worth more. That's smart business from Bill. Research about how other fans view the Wild/Billy/Rossi situation. i don't really care what other teams think of Rossi or Wild or Billy. See first paragraph of this post where you clearly misquoted me. forgive me! Please keep flip flopping about how Kaprizov is guaranteed gone if the Wild don’t win first round, there is rational thinking when new evidence is presented and i think i have been very "flexible" with my assumptions and predictions. you should try that. trade the young core away to create multiple holes in the lineup, example? saying the young guys like Buium haven’t done ANYTHING they haven't and aren’t worth ANYTHING actually they are worth something now, and that's the reason why i stand by the idea of trading at the peak value but also trying to use them as the main piece to trade for a top 10 player, yes playing fantasy GM with trade proposals for multiple players for top 10 guys, what is your position here? are you not also sharing ideas to improve the team? ohhh but your ideas are always right! no other ideas are to be allowed. reminds me of someone.... to saying Kaprizov is all that matters even though you have adamantly already said he is gone. yes a superstar does have importance. and surprisingly we still can position ourselves better. why is that such a abnormal thought? Please consider that you are the only one who can’t seem to read and understand so many other people’s posts and insist on arguing with almost anyone who doesn’t already just ignore you. Cheers. i get that you have this psychic ability to know what people are thinking, what everyones worth is and you are always in the right. Must be very nice. Cheerios to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNotMild Verified Member Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 11 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: i quoted you correctly, but just not fully - i apologize for that. but the point was that if teams do not value Rossi enough to part with a first rounder, then you may want to take notice and rethink what type of a player Rossi is and what his worth is. If Rossi was as good as you believe he is - then teams would be OK parting with a first rounder to steal him from us. But they are not. Yet - that doesn't register with you and other stubborn Rossi fanatics - you fail to take any criticism on Rossi. He literally can do no wrong. The entire league has him as a 5 mil player. Yet you want to overpay. You do understand that if no team gives him his 7 per then he has no choice but to come back to us or go to KHL or sit out? Other platforms like this for other teams show a lot of fans would be happy to get Rossi, but see no reason to go the offer sheet route when Billy wants to dump him do you follow all the teams and read thru the comments? which team is waiting on the dump? If Rossi does get traded, you really think that his new deal with another team would only be 4.5 per?!? that matters very little. what matters is how much he will be paid while playing for Wild. Billy offered him 5x5 before his 60 point season was Billy offered him 5 and given the $s for Duchene and Donato - i think that's fair. I said Nelson would get 7+ per and many people on this platform said I was wrong, crazy, etc. Guess what, he got 7.5 per BECAUSE the cap has gone up and all contracts are going up. so why did Duchene and Donato got 4.5? you think Rossi is that much better than them? Yet teams still do not want to part with a pick to pluck Rossi away - such a mystery! No way Boldy gets a 7x7 today, it would be higher because the cap is higher. Same way Boldy’s contract was higher than Ek’s even though Boldy hadn’t done nearly as much. People were squawking about Boldy’s deal being crazy to now thinking it is a bargain. Ok fine Boldy gets 8 - the teams still would gladly throw a pick for him. Isn't Rossi a top 6 material? Yet teams are not budging on the pick? Well then - Rossi is out of luck. He plays if Billy is nice enough to offer him the same contract. Whether or not you think he is worth more. That's smart business from Bill. Research about how other fans view the Wild/Billy/Rossi situation. i don't really care what other teams think of Rossi or Wild or Billy. See first paragraph of this post where you clearly misquoted me. forgive me! Please keep flip flopping about how Kaprizov is guaranteed gone if the Wild don’t win first round, there is rational thinking when new evidence is presented and i think i have been very "flexible" with my assumptions and predictions. you should try that. trade the young core away to create multiple holes in the lineup, example? saying the young guys like Buium haven’t done ANYTHING they haven't and aren’t worth ANYTHING actually they are worth something now, and that's the reason why i stand by the idea of trading at the peak value but also trying to use them as the main piece to trade for a top 10 player, yes playing fantasy GM with trade proposals for multiple players for top 10 guys, what is your position here? are you not also sharing ideas to improve the team? ohhh but your ideas are always right! no other ideas are to be allowed. reminds me of someone.... to saying Kaprizov is all that matters even though you have adamantly already said he is gone. yes a superstar does have importance. and surprisingly we still can position ourselves better. why is that such a abnormal thought? Please consider that you are the only one who can’t seem to read and understand so many other people’s posts and insist on arguing with almost anyone who doesn’t already just ignore you. Cheers. i get that you have this psychic ability to know what people are thinking, what everyones worth is and you are always in the right. Must be very nice. Cheerios to you! Not accurately quoting someone is the same as misquoting. An offer sheet isn’t just one pick, it is multiple (at least even at the low amount you think Rossi is worth). AGAIN, there is no reason to offer sheet Rossi when another team can just trade for him. Billy created his own mess. I like Rossi, but am on the record being fine if he is traded for an upgrade, but a team isn’t going to give us a bigger, faster similar age and similar point guy for him. Including too many of our top young players that we need for depth and ELCs in addition to Rossi actually hurts the Wild and creates holes in the lineup. This is where we strongly differ. Check out a Vancouver or Montreal fan website. You talk about other teams and what they think of Rossi all the time, but simultaneously say you don’t care what other teams think of him? Talk about flip flopping. Older players with less upside. Come on now ODC, I am not the one speaking on behalf of Kaprizov for 6 months now. How many guarantees have you thrown out to only flip flop on? I put out opinions and thoughts like everyone, but have only ever argued with you. Lots of other people could say the same. You say the same things over and over and insist on arguing with everyone. I will go back to ignoring your rants. I appreciate differing thoughts and opinions and am open minded. In fact, I rarely post in the years I have been reading this site. Unfortunately, your insistence on repeating yourself and responding/arguing with so many posts kind of ruins this site for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 18 minutes ago, WildNotMild said: Not accurately quoting someone is the same as misquoting. An offer sheet isn’t just one pick, it is multiple (at least even at the low amount you think Rossi is worth). AGAIN, there is no reason to offer sheet Rossi when another team can just trade for him. Billy created his own mess. I like Rossi, but am on the record being fine if he is traded for an upgrade, but a team isn’t going to give us a bigger, faster similar age and similar point guy for him. Including too many of our top young players that we need for depth and ELCs in addition to Rossi actually hurts the Wild and creates holes in the lineup. This is where we strongly differ. Check out a Vancouver or Montreal fan website. You talk about other teams and what they think of Rossi all the time, but simultaneously say you don’t care what other teams think of him? Talk about flip flopping. Older players with less upside. Come on now ODC, I am not the one speaking on behalf of Kaprizov for 6 months now. How many guarantees have you thrown out to only flip flop on? I put out opinions and thoughts like everyone, but have only ever argued with you. Lots of other people could say the same. You say the same things over and over and insist on arguing with everyone. I will go back to ignoring your rants. I appreciate differing thoughts and opinions and am open minded. In fact, I rarely post in the years I have been reading this site. Unfortunately, your insistence on repeating yourself and responding/arguing with so many posts kind of ruins this site for me. Not accurately quoting someone is the same as misquoting. i'll give you my first born i guess to apologize. but he is kind of an ass. unlike his father. An offer sheet isn’t just one pick, it is multiple (at least even at the low amount you think Rossi is worth). AGAIN, there is no reason to offer sheet Rossi when another team can just trade for him. Billy created his own mess. 7 mil is 1st and 3rd - 3rd is a toss - so really if Rossi is that good - then why would you not be ok with sending us a pick? i think we agree that no lottery team is going to do that. but really not even say a 20th pick for such a stud as Rossi? hmm - this is not a mess- this is actually pretty smart. Rossi is not the first, second, third, or even fourth in the pecking order -- he had his offer - he declined, we'll see where he ends up. I think Bill is playing this very well. I like Rossi, but am on the record being fine if he is traded for an upgrade, but a team isn’t going to give us a bigger, faster similar age and similar point guy for him. Including too many of our top young players that we need for depth and ELCs in addition to Rossi actually hurts the Wild and creates holes in the lineup. This is where we strongly differ. in a perfect trade scenario - Rossi is packaged with another prospect for a bigger fish. There is Yurov and FA. Check out a Vancouver or Montreal fan website. Well if Van wants Rossi - they can trade us Elias for him and no pick our way. Montreal can give us Demidov for Rossi + Zeev You talk about other teams and what they think of Rossi all the time, but simultaneously say you don’t care what other teams think of him? Talk about flip flopping. i care about Wild and that's it. If the teams overvalue Rossi and give us a better player in exchange -- i'm for it. but i do not care what happens with that team. Older players with less upside. who? Come on now ODC, I am not the one speaking on behalf of Kaprizov for 6 months now. How many guarantees have you thrown out to only flip flop on? i try to educated guesses based on situation. i felt that R1 was a must. i felt Captaincy was the right approach (perhaps selfish and a bit tricky) but would give us a bit of advantage of retaining Kap.....what is wrong with that? To give yourself some advantage is a good thing. I put out opinions and thoughts like everyone, but have only ever argued with you. you want people that just agree with you? that's boring! Lots of other people could say the same. so what? we are all just sharing ideas about a team that we all love. why is yours so much better than mine? You say the same things over and over and insist on arguing with everyone. are you here to agree with everyone? i guess whatever floats your boat. believe it or not - citi and I have agreed twice already! I will go back to ignoring your rants. you do you I appreciate differing thoughts and opinions and am open minded. oh i can tell you are! In fact, I rarely post in the years I have been reading this site. Unfortunately, your insistence on repeating yourself and responding/arguing with so many posts kind of ruins this site for me. i understand you completely - you prefer same opinion and applause. i get it. but i disagree with that and will state my opinion when i have one and if you don't like it - you just have to deal with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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