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B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago So people who want to become Stanley Cup contenders should want to acquire Hartman because he's Diet-Bennett... but the Wild shouldn't want to be one of those teams themselves? Not sure that makes sense. Guerin is in year 3 of his five-year-plan 2.0, I don't think getting rid of playoff contributors is the way to keep his job going forward or to help the team get out of round 1... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNCountryLife Verified Member Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Hartman was one of the best players for the Wild in the Vegas series. As long as he keeps his head the guy can play and contribute anywhere in the lineup... and at a reasonable price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Bennett-lite or diet-Bennett is a perfect name. Hartzy is 1" shorter and listed at 3 lbs. lighter. While Hartzy has had more suspensions, to me, Bennett is the meaner player. If we could offload Hartzy ffor a decent pick/prospect/player right now, I'd say do it. Hartman is actually a type of player I really like, but I feel his right shoulder still isn't right. He got in 1 fight this year, tried hard not to throw a right hand and tried to do it left handed. I think we need a couple of guys like Bennett, but I really don't think Hartman is that guy. Hartman's got some good position flexibility and he can produce some points. That alone makes him valuable. I do not see Hartman being around for our cup run, though. More evidence: DesLauries, Reeves, Bogosian, Breezers, Trenin. These are guys brought in during Hartman's tenure who were meant to play that role. I don't believe that Guerin thinks Hartman is that guy either. I'm a hard sell on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Hartman played like a man possessed in the playoffs. That said, he's one fuck up away from being in no man's land. If he's a secondary piece to get a better trade done, you have to consider it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJwild Verified Member Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Huh? Only way I would trade Hartman is for Bennett. Dumbest thoughts ever to just trade to free up 4 million for another whimp. Bennett or forget it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Verified Member Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago More like the Sam Bennett ultralight. Hartman hasn’t put up comparable stats since the 21-22 season. He can’t fight anywhere near as good. But I guess he sort of plays a similar role… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4speed99 Verified Member Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, MNCountryLife said: Hartman was one of the best players for the Wild in the Vegas series. As long as he keeps his head the guy can play and contribute anywhere in the lineup... and at a reasonable price. For a bottom 6 player, 4 mil is too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4speed99 Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Sam said: More like the Sam Bennett ultralight. Hartman hasn’t put up comparable stats since the 21-22 season. He can’t fight anywhere near as good. But I guess he sort of plays a similar role… I kinda think that was Tony's point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4speed99 Verified Member Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said: So people who want to become Stanley Cup contenders should want to acquire Hartman because he's Diet-Bennett... but the Wild shouldn't want to be one of those teams themselves? Not sure that makes sense. Guerin is in year 3 of his five-year-plan 2.0, I don't think getting rid of playoff contributors is the way to keep his job going forward or to help the team get out of round 1... He is in year 7, but keep going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Verified Member Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Need4speed99 said: I kinda think that was Tony's point... Ya think so, do ya? Well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezig Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Bennett isn't tall enough. At least for the Wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 hours ago, Need4speed99 said: He is in year 7, but keep going. Yes but he apparently got to reset his five-year plan in the middle of it. Last year was allegedly year 2 of it, so he's going into year 3 now. Hence the 2.0 I added in there. I agree its a stupid way to describe whatever they're planning but that's how they did it so I'm just using their own vernacular xD At the least, I doubt he'll get to get a 3rd if this one doesn't work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 hours ago, Need4speed99 said: For a bottom 6 player, 4 mil is too much. He's middle 6. If there's an injury to either Ek or Rossi, its Hartman who moves up without looking out of place. He started on the 4th but then they quickly put him on the 3rd and 2nd lines in the playoffs. And that's the kind of style he can play. Unless they're about to add a legit top-line C, Hartman will remain a middle-6 guy for us. Last year was a down-season for him, points wise, but he has been a roughly 40-pt player over his career so $4M is a very fair value for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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