Article: Is Vancouver the Wild's Best Marco Rossi Trade Destination?

[OldDutchChip]

24 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

I just wish something would happen so we can quit talking about Rossi. I'm ready to move on to a new topic, lol.

agree! 

here is one - i read an interview with Kap and Kovy (it's an older one from end of may, but still found good stuff there) so when asked about signing the contract - Kap stated "wait till July 1st and you'll know". 

that actually makes it seem that Kap is resigning. this is crazy. he could have said "no comment" or "time will tell" but saying July 1 - means there will be something and it won't be an announcement to say "i've decided to wait and not sign" - that would be illogical....creating mass hysteria, famine and inflation, not to mention a total slap in the face of the fans and i'm not seeing that from Kap. so if he says - wait and see - i think we are waiting on contract details at this point. SNAP - of course i called it all the way! brilliant!

additionally - he jokingly said - if Kovy wants to - he'll (Kap) find him a place on the team - or something like that ..... tells me the decisions are run by him and all the current contracts or lack-there-of are not just because Bill likes it a certain way.... (sorry i know you asked to not mention Rossi 😉 )

anyone read that interview? 

 

[Enforceror]

31 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

agree! 

here is one - i read an interview with Kap and Kovy (it's an older one from end of may, but still found good stuff there) so when asked about signing the contract - Kap stated "wait till July 1st and you'll know". 

that actually makes it seem that Kap is resigning. this is crazy. he could have said "no comment" or "time will tell" but saying July 1 - means there will be something and it won't be an announcement to say "i've decided to wait and not sign" - that would be illogical....creating mass hysteria, famine and inflation, not to mention a total slap in the face of the fans and i'm not seeing that from Kap. so if he says - wait and see - i think we are waiting on contract details at this point. SNAP - of course i called it all the way! brilliant!

additionally - he jokingly said - if Kovy wants to - he'll (Kap) find him a place on the team - or something like that ..... tells me the decisions are run by him and all the current contracts or lack-there-of are not just because Bill likes it a certain way.... (sorry i know you asked to not mention Rossi 😉 )

anyone read that interview? 

 

I wasn't aware of it but will check it out. I do believe Kap signs. In the exit interview when he was asked about it he just kinda smiled and said it should be good. That doesn't sound to me like someone on their way out. 

Thanks for the topic ODC!

[OldDutchChip]

11 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

I wasn't aware of it but will check it out. I do believe Kap signs. In the exit interview when he was asked about it he just kinda smiled and said it should be good. That doesn't sound to me like someone on their way out. 

Thanks for the topic ODC!

no prob! 🍻

[B1GKappa97]

On 6/10/2025 at 1:10 PM, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

It isn't though. They really f*cked up the perception of Rossi with the demotion in the playoffs. A young 60pt center and they essentially bench him come playoffs? That is a red flag for every single team looking.

And yet there are allegedly many teams still interested. Which increases the team's leverage in trade negotiations. 

[B1GKappa97]

On 6/10/2025 at 5:20 PM, OldDutchChip said:

The wild totally devalued Rossi. they were not trying to devalue Rossi - they were trying to win a PO series. Rossi's play called for him to be demoted because he couldn't take the top 6 assignments vs Vegas top group (which was the matchup). Hence he was given a more favorable matchup against bottom 6 players with two players that could offset his size/physicality limitation.

They have no leverage! wrong. All the leverage is with the team. Go ahead Rossi find some fool to pay you more than 7. If not - come on down to us at OUR price and play. Go and prove yourself with a Bridge Deal. Or you are not happy with the price? well then go on and play in Austria. All cards are with Billy here. 

Oh God. I agree with ODC on something. What is going on here?! 

Great points and exactly right imo. I thought it was pretty evident that Hynes was spreading out the smaller guys on the roster throughout the lines.

The Brazeau/Trenin combo brought the physicality that Rossi was not. 

[B1GKappa97]

9 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

The Wild can simply match the offer sheet, which is why it might not happen for him. If teams know the Wild will match, it might not be worth it for them to even write up the contract.

A team would probably have to be up around $8M for the wild to walk away from bringing him back. Would a team sign Rossi for that?

Exactly. And then, not only are they overpaying Rossi, they would also have to give up their 1st, 2nd, AND 3rd round picks at that level of AAV. 

The offersheet concerns are completely overblown. 

[B1GKappa97]

8 hours ago, 0 Stanley Cups said:

If the Wild won't offer more than the $5Mx5 because they don't believe they can win with him, his size, or soft skill, then why would they match an offer sheet at $7Mx7?

Who's to say they've only offered him $5Mx5? That was the reported INITIAL offer. Its all a negotiation. Maybe they've gone up to $7M themselves. 

Allegedly, Billy has upped the offer since then and the agent has turned it down, claiming the 4th line 'demotion' in the playoff is the reason why. Its in Rossi's agent's best interest to wait and see if his client gets offersheeted something better than Billy is offering though, so its a pretty transparent smokescreen.

Its really his only card to play if Guerin isn't willing to overpay for Rossi. He's not eligible for arbitration. And a 5-year deal would walk him right into UFA, so its actually a very fair length for the GM to offer the guy. 

[B1GKappa97]

If Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to give us Petersson and then we figure out how to balance that out. 

He is overpaid though. An $11.7M caphit for another 6 years with a NMC for the length of it as of July 1st? They should want to get out of that if all they're getting from him is the 45 points he had last season.. 

Rossi would give them a guy with potential for similar production who should cost a little over half as much..

Edited 20 hours ago by B1GKappa97

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said:

If Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to give us Petersson and then we figure out how to balance that out. 

He is overpaid though. An $11.7M caphit for another 6 years with a NMC for the length of it as of July 1st? They should want to get out of that if all they're getting from him is the 45 points he had last season.. 

Rossi would give them a guy with potential for similar production who should cost a little over half as much..

Rossi, Spurge, Ohgren + Pick for Elias? Pay Rossi and Spurge 14-15 or allocate that to Elias? Spurge's spot will be cheaply replaced by Jiri and Zeev

Id also try to see if J Rob is available from our Dallas friends.....same offer but we replace Spurge with a prospect (cause they need to save money to go after Marner) and throw in Modano too

Brilliant? Of course!

 

[B1GKappa97]

7 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

Rossi, Spurge, Ohgren + Pick for Elias? Pay Rossi and Spurge 14-15 or allocate that to Elias? Spurge's spot will be cheaply replaced by Jiri and Zeev

Id also try to see if J Rob is available from our Dallas friends.....same offer but we replace Spurge with a prospect (cause they need to save money to go after Marner) and throw in Modano too

Brilliant? Of course!

 

I doubt they are too interested in Spurgeon. And tbh, I can't see Billy trading him when he's one healthy season away from his 1000th career game with the same franchise. That will be a special moment for him and for the Wild. 

Doesn't help us maximize this offseason, but I do think that plays a role in him sticking around. 

If the 'Nucks want a defenseman, I think Brodin would be the one to go the other way. He has no trade protection. We have Declan Chisholm as a RFA anyway and it doesn't break the trajectory of the blue-line too much. We've got plenty of LHD to replace his spot in the lineup with cheaper guys. 

Really though I think taking the contract off the books before they're stuck with it is a big benefit to us not having to pay as much. $11.7M and he's never been the same since Kuzmenko left for LA. They won't get their money's worth for him. The Wild might by pairing him with Kaprizov. 

So Rossi + Brodin + 2026 1st for Peterrsson should get the job done imo.

And then that leaves us with roughly $11M leftover to add another player. Reunite with Brock Boeser?? 

Zuccy-Peterrsson-Kaprizov

Boldy-Ek-Boeser

Foligno-Hartman-Johansson

Ohgren-Freddy-Trenin?

Middsy-Fabes

Buium-Spurgy

Chisholm-Bogo/Jiricek

 

Defense probably takes a hit, as it always does when Brodin is out, but the offensive potential of that top-6 could be elite...

[Pewterschmidt]

1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said:

his 1000th career game with the same franchise. That will be a special moment for him and for the Wild.

Great another silver stick presentation.  The participation trophy franchise of the NHL. 
(channeling my inner Patrick  & Dean today)

[B1GKappa97]

1 hour ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Great another silver stick presentation.  The participation trophy franchise of the NHL. 
(channeling my inner Patrick  & Dean today)

xD Yeah, no kidding. I do think it plays a role in the evaluation of whether to trade Spurgeon or not though. 

If they kept Goose around so he could hit 1k, I can't imagine they won't do the same for a legitimately home-grown talent in Jared Spurgeon who is the literal captain of the team. He's not moving this year. 

Best we can hope is he hits the 1k benchmark this year by staying healthy and then they can trade him next off-season. 

Edited 8 hours ago by B1GKappa97

[Mateo3xm]

Teddy Blueger????

A guy that has never scored more than 28pts in an nhl seasons is 30yrs old? If Guarin does that he removes all doubt. 

[OldDutchChip]

2 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

I doubt they are too interested in Spurgeon. And tbh, I can't see Billy trading him when he's one healthy season away from his 1000th career game with the same franchise. That will be a special moment for him and for the Wild. 

Doesn't help us maximize this offseason, but I do think that plays a role in him sticking around. 

If the 'Nucks want a defenseman, I think Brodin would be the one to go the other way. He has no trade protection. We have Declan Chisholm as a RFA anyway and it doesn't break the trajectory of the blue-line too much. We've got plenty of LHD to replace his spot in the lineup with cheaper guys. 

Really though I think taking the contract off the books before they're stuck with it is a big benefit to us not having to pay as much. $11.7M and he's never been the same since Kuzmenko left for LA. They won't get their money's worth for him. The Wild might by pairing him with Kaprizov. 

So Rossi + Brodin + 2026 1st for Peterrsson should get the job done imo.

And then that leaves us with roughly $11M leftover to add another player. Reunite with Brock Boeser?? 

Zuccy-Peterrsson-Kaprizov

Boldy-Ek-Boeser

Foligno-Hartman-Johansson

Ohgren-Freddy-Trenin?

Middsy-Fabes

Buium-Spurgy

Chisholm-Bogo/Jiricek

 

Defense probably takes a hit, as it always does when Brodin is out, but the offensive potential of that top-6 could be elite...

And Yurov too! I like it

[Mateo3xm]

On 6/10/2025 at 5:07 PM, BillieGismylover said:

Bill should tell Rossi and his agent a deal is on the table with Buffalo. Here’s a contract for $5mil/per year. I’m only offering it once. You have 15 minutes to sign it or you’re going to be a Sabre.

What a crazy and ridiculous idea.

[Scalptrash]

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I can't see Billy trading him when he's one healthy season away from his 1000th career game with the same franchise. That will be a special moment for him and for the Wild.

100% Billy and the Wild's flawed MO. Do you want to compete or have special feel good moments? Perfect example of why the Wild struggle to take the next step. Billy is too nostalgic and values individuals more than the team.

A good GM always puts team first and makes decisions to elevate the team. A great GM makes tough decisions that fans hate, but then brings home a cup. Hopefully the Wild's next GM is at least good.

[B1GKappa97]

49 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

And Yurov too! I like it

Wow, how did I forget Yurov? You're right, he should slot in there. Probably at Johansson's spot then. Might keep Ohgren in the AHL for a bit.

 

24 minutes ago, Scalptrash said:

100% Billy and the Wild's flawed MO. Do you want to compete or have special feel good moments? Perfect example of why the Wild struggle to take the next step. Billy is too nostalgic and values individuals more than the team.

A good GM always puts team first and makes decisions to elevate the team. A great GM makes tough decisions that fans hate, but then brings home a cup. Hopefully the Wild's next GM is at least good.

I think its part of a GM's job not to be completely cut-throat. These are other human beings they're working with and I'm sure Spurgeon has been looking forward to that 1000th game ceremony for a long time. There's definitely some intangible benefit to having guys who want to be here and showing the players that you value them more than just chess pieces on ice. 

And as a fan, it is cool to get to see those kind of moments for the players. You're telling me you didn't like watching MAF get a standing ovation in Montreal? I thought it was one of the coolest things I've seen in hockey. 

I wouldn't get too worked up about it. Just hope it happens this year so they can move on more easily next season. They'll need his $7.5M to help cover for Kaprizov's increased cap-hit next year more than they need it this year anyway. 

[Pewterschmidt]

2 minutes ago, B1GKappa97 said:

Might keep Ohgren in the AHL for a bit.

Prediction: Ogz will be gone before next season starts.  Most likely a Rossi trade sweetener.

But P-Tinkles, Ogz is one of the Brackett Top Prospect Pool picks how can thin skin bill trade him.  Yep, Ogz, Khuz and Rossi such dominant NHL'rs bill had to get them off the team.