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In what world does a defensively responsible 60 point CENTER have less value than a defensively average 60 point WING?

I swear BG has created a legion of bobblehead fans that will swallow ANYTHING he claims.

Rossi is TWO!!!!! pound lighter than Peterka! 

This entire article is INSANE!

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Nah i'll pass on Peterka

Remember there are two teams left standing - the rest will need to go back to the drawing board - especially with FL likely locked into Eastern Dominance - so other teams (PO teams included) may consider some major moves. 

If Sabres don't want to talk Tage, hang up and move on. 

Go talk to Canes. They have a leaky G situation (and we have a number one phenom prospect - wally - just finished marinating!!) and some old D (burnsy and orlov) to replace? you are in luck, we have a not-so-old spurge! so how about Spurge, Wally and Rossi for Svech? 

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Go talk to the kings - maybe bring back FiFi for Rossi?

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Go to Leafs and say - you know you have to do something different so let's help each other - TOR get Spurge/Zeev/Rossi for Nylander

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Go to Boston and say - you guys need a rebuild cause you ain't going no where in the east for the next few years - so here is top G prospect (give them some phenom ranking of Wally from previous years) and top D prospect (do the same for Zeev until he devalues himself) and Rossi (superstar) and fine a first round pick whenever for Pasta

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Go to OTT and pitch some package around Fat Ass and Rossi for Brady

Expand your search Bill. Do not settle. Teams that lack innovative thinking and never take calculated risk - remain at the same place - mediocracy*

*see MN Wild

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Just a no-trade.  The goal now is to find a trade partner or free agent that forces Hynes's hand to not put Mojo on the 2nd line unless in injury concerns.  Cause as of right now, you only really have Foligno to challenge that.

I'm ok if that is Peterka, but not for the extreme price the article suggests.  It is pretty weird to want to go from a offensive and defensive center to a purely offensive winger for the same price tag...but they may have to.  Philly already signed Foerster to a bridge.

 

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40 minutes ago, B1GKappa97 said:

I don't understand why we need to include anything extra in a trade for Peterka. 

Why wouldn't it just be a hockey trade, player for player? Peterka has better size, sure, but he plays wing. Rossi plays C and they both just had 60-point seasons as 23-year olds. 

It’s because Rossi is Australian and P-terks is German. They probably think he’s a distant relative of Leon Draisaitl.

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17 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

Nah i'll pass on Peterka

Remember there are two teams left standing - the rest will need to go back to the drawing board - especially with FL likely locked into Eastern Dominance - so other teams (PO teams included) may consider some major moves. 

If Sabres don't want to talk Tage, hang up and move on. 

Go talk to Canes. They have a leaky G situation (and we have a number one phenom prospect - wally - just finished marinating!!) and some old D (burnsy and orlov) to replace? you are in luck, we have a not-so-old spurge! so how about Spurge, Wally and Rossi for Svech? 

or

Go talk to the kings - maybe bring back FiFi for Rossi?

or

Go to Leafs and say - you know you have to do something different so let's help each other - TOR get Spurge/Zeev/Rossi for Nylander

or

Go to Boston and say - you guys need a rebuild cause you ain't going no where in the east for the next few years - so here is top G prospect (give them some phenom ranking of Wally from previous years) and top D prospect (do the same for Zeev until he devalues himself) and Rossi (superstar) and fine a first round pick whenever for Pasta

or

Go to OTT and pitch some package around Fat Ass and Rossi for Brady

Expand your search Bill. Do not settle. Teams that lack innovative thinking and never take calculated risk - remain at the same place - mediocracy*

*see MN Wild

Agree on this.  Let’s look and think outside the box

 

Rossi for Rasmus Anderson straight up then find a team that will take Spurgeon and Brodin.  Then go get a couple more top 6 Fwds.  Flames need a top 2C badely and Rasmus is a great and mean player that irritates other teams.  He dominated us when we played against them end of last year.  We could use some meanness on the blue line 

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18 minutes ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

find a team that will take Spurgeon and Brodin

We lose both Spurgeon and Brodin and we don't have a D that will even get us to the playoffs.  Brodin still has years left as a high end D man.  We should keep him.  I understand the Spurgeon trade.  He has 1, maybe 2 years of quality play left in him.  Let him go while he can still play and get something in return.  It will still hurt us but is necessary as we move younger.

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Part of the reason the Sabres are shopping Peterka is that he is due for a big bump, likely around $7-8 million, in his salary. He is a restricted free agent, and the Sabers don’t want to commit to him long-term, so he’ll be on the trade block this summer. 

How would trading for Rossi fix that? Rossi is going to get similar money and a long term.

Sounds like another Walmart GM like Guerin.

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1 hour ago, MNCountryLife said:

We lose both Spurgeon and Brodin and we don't have a D that will even get us to the playoffs.  Brodin still has years left as a high end D man.  We should keep him.  I understand the Spurgeon trade.  He has 1, maybe 2 years of quality play left in him.  Let him go while he can still play and get something in return.  It will still hurt us but is necessary as we move younger.

Putting in Rasmus Anderson for Spurgeon is a positive upgrade.  I don’t think spurgeons trade value is high so that would be more for Cap space for a FWD.  Understand on Brodin but we are deep at LHD and I think Brodin could bring a very solid top 6 player.  Ideally keep Brodin and move Spurgeon and bring in Anderson for some RHD meanness.  Rossi would bring in Rasmus or close to it in a 1x1 trade. 

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I'm looking at the Buffalo salary structure and Norris is their most expensive forward. Yes, that's right, he's making more than Tage. So, exactly what is the better opportunity for Rossi here?

Rossi and Peterka's numbers are fairly similar. Would Rossi have more points if he were kicked out to wing? More goals? It would seem as if his responsibilities would be less and he could focus more on being down low in this system. If there were injuries, he could easily slot back in as center. So, why exactly would we get rid of him for a similar player 3" and a few pounds heavier at the moment? 

Rossi sounds like he wants that longterm deal now. But, outside of an offersheet that is accepted, he has little choice in the matter. I would think at bridge at 2 x $4.5m, $4m this year, $5m next year is probably the way to go. Rossi may want to play on a 1 year deal so he can get to arbitration, and if I were Guerin, if that's how they're playing it, I'd probably merely qualify him and try to work something out next season.

But, let's say Rossi comes in at 195 and is super motivated. That might be enough for management to believe in him. It might take some protein shakes and some elements that you hope he's not tested for. But, what if he comes in and seals the deal as our #2C. What if his shot suddenly has range outside the home plate area, and he can win most of his faceoffs? Seems to me that is what we wanted. I would not be upset if he had performance bonuses built into his deal that were a challenge to make.

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13 hours ago, fikifuka said:

0.8 M/year for Johanson? There must be extensive bonuses they do not make public. Any details? And do bonuses count for the cap space? If not its a good deal for MIN.

Bonuses do count for cap space, and none included in the deal.

Russo mentioned his value on the free agency market would be in the $2M range, MoJo was being courted by his Swedish club, but MoJo & Family made decision that they liked MN and wanted to stay here.  I believe that both his children are school age, so that might have played an impact in the decision.  This is a very team friendly deal.

It did have a full NTC, and I'm sure, knowing SillyG, it has a handshake NMC attached too.

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2 hours ago, MrCheatachu said:

Bonuses do count for cap space, and none included in the deal.

Russo mentioned his value on the free agency market would be in the $2M range, MoJo was being courted by his Swedish club, but MoJo & Family made decision that they liked MN and wanted to stay here.  I believe that both his children are school age, so that might have played an impact in the decision.  This is a very team friendly deal.

It did have a full NTC, and I'm sure, knowing SillyG, it has a handshake NMC attached too.

Where did you read it has a full NTC?  I have been looking for confirmation on that but only saw that it was reported by a league source

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56 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

Where did you read it has a full NTC?  I have been looking for confirmation on that but only saw that it was reported by a league source

Per the Athletic article released by Russo.

"However, Johansson, 34, also would likely have received NHL offers in the $2 million range.

Nevertheless, Johansson and his family like Minnesota, so he agreed to a contract that the Wild could fit comfortably within their salary cap structure. The contract comes with a full no-trade clause, according to a league source."

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2 hours ago, RazWild said:

Per the Athletic article released by Russo.

"However, Johansson, 34, also would likely have received NHL offers in the $2 million range.

Nevertheless, Johansson and his family like Minnesota, so he agreed to a contract that the Wild could fit comfortably within their salary cap structure. The contract comes with a full no-trade clause, according to a league source."

Yea, saw the same thing.  

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8 hours ago, MrCheatachu said:

Bonuses do count for cap space, and none included in the deal.

Russo mentioned his value on the free agency market would be in the $2M range, MoJo was being courted by his Swedish club, but MoJo & Family made decision that they liked MN and wanted to stay here.  I believe that both his children are school age, so that might have played an impact in the decision.  This is a very team friendly deal.

It did have a full NTC, and I'm sure, knowing SillyG, it has a handshake NMC attached too.

Thank you very much for this upgrade, 'Mister'! So MJ probably re-signed as a perfect, cheap healthy scratch, allways ready to make pressure on Ohgren, Yurov or in case of injuries. Sounds like a good deal. 

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Other trade candidates include Mason Marchement. That seems like it might be a nice addition. Apparently, being successful and signing a top tier player has it's drawbacks. Even with a cap increase, Dallas has 16 players under contract and $5m left. 

That sounds like a team that could get offersheeted! Sadly, it doesn't look like they have anyone to do that to.

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