Article: Bill Guerin Has His Chance To Win Everybody Over This Summer

[Chris Schad]

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[Lern2spell]

The window is finally opening for the Wild, but won't be opened all the way for another two years. Besides the ever talked issue of re-signing Kaprizov and adding a good (but probably not elite) top six player, the Wild need to spend to re-sign some core pieces this off season and next, hindering the ability to get a truly elite top six piece to make a formidable run at the Cup. Last year at this time Gustavsson was trade fodder, and Jiricek was in Columbus. Both will need raises after next season, and after burning the first year of Buium's ELC, he will need to get paid sooner rather than later also. If Wallstedt comes through as billed, he will need a raise as well, not to mention the Yurov's, Heidt's and others coming up through the ranks.

One can speculate any of the various names battered about on various comment boards, and plug in adequate corresponding numbers to get them here for next season, but reality says the Wild won't be able to make a really big splash until the summer of 2027. I just want Guerin to stick to a plan and not blow it all up with bad signings before it even gets started...

[MNCountryLife]

I want a cup.  That requires everything.  You can't just have a team that is good one year.  You have to have a base that competes every year for a multitude of years.  Watch your core players and your money.  I hope BG is the one.  I don't want to wait another 3 years for the next guy to figure out his core.

[Patrick]

If the Wild don't resign Rossi we are cooked.  There are no comparable alternatives that don't come at a substantially higher price.  Unless Rossi really is asking for 8 plus million a year BG needs to be fired.  The way he has handled this publicly has been an embarrassment to the organization.

The only out is if Yurov pulls a Kaprizov and stuns the NHL right out of the gate.

Stars top 3 centers Hintze, Duchene, Johnston

Oilers - McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins

Vegas - Eichel- Hertl- Karlsson

Nearly every contender goes 3 deep.

Us without Rossi....Ek, Hartman, Gaudreau  😂😂😢

And none of possible free agents meaningfully change that.

Does BG have ANY plan?

[Burnt Toast]

12 minutes ago, Patrick said:

Does BG have ANY plan?

If he does I hope it includes patience. If BG caves into the pressure to “win now” leading to overpays in both $ and assets our window won’t be open for long. As McC stated SC contenders need multiple years to push their way to the top. Yes the P&S contracts are over. So what. We just made it to the playground the other kids have been on the whole time. Wild ownership/management has stated that there is a multi ear plan. What year are we in? I don’t think that was clearly stated. I hope it includes 2027 because that gives our best prospects a shot at breaking out. JW DY ZB Jiri Ohg. I think BG’s assessment as a competent GM will hinge on the moves he makes ( or doesn’t) in the next two years. 

[Kato AK]

1 hour ago, Patrick said:

If the Wild don't resign Rossi we are cooked.  There are no comparable alternatives that don't come at a substantially higher price.  Unless Rossi really is asking for 8 plus million a year BG needs to be fired.  The way he has handled this publicly has been an embarrassment to the organization.

The only out is if Yurov pulls a Kaprizov and stuns the NHL right out of the gate.

Stars top 3 centers Hintze, Duchene, Johnston

Oilers - McDavid, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins

Vegas - Eichel- Hertl- Karlsson

Nearly every contender goes 3 deep.

Us without Rossi....Ek, Hartman, Gaudreau  😂😂😢

And none of possible free agents meaningfully change that.

Does BG have ANY plan?

I think your first sentence is only true if BG lets Rossi go to an offer sheet and getting picks in return, that doesn't help now.  But I do agree that the public handling of Rossi has been terrible. If anything, it has hurt his trade value.

If BG can get an upgrade using additional assets, that should be an option. One of your examples shows that a viable option, Vegas. Two of the centers listed were acquired through trade, and their next best player (stone) was also a trade.

[hydguy75]

Step 1.  Sign Kap to your 8 year deal, starting at $10M year 1 and increasing.  Why?  Kap is certainly worth more than that.  True.  But to build the offense deep enough to win not 1 but 2-3 cups in a 8 year span, a true dynasty, we need funds.  

But Kap would never sign for only $10M year 1.  OK. 8 years @ $15M.  $120M total and 0 cups (at least with MN).  0 cups.  Or 8 Years with say AAV even $10M conditionally that BG goes shopping for true top talent forwards and brings them in, $80M total for Kap, and Kap's name on 2-3 cups.  So 97 is only stepping back $40M over 8 years, but after $10M who cares?  How much is it worth to becoming legendary?  

I'm going to get laughed at and heckled.  I'm ready.  But DO NOT let this be another Joe Mauer FAILURE in MINNESOTA again, where as soon as he cashes the big paycheck he turns to shit, wasting time and money.  

Step 2.  Re-Sign Rossi.  

Step 3.  Find a Power Forward or 2 with what's left.  

The Wild could NOT overtake VGK because they lack a complete offense.  You have most of the parts there, build around Kap and what we do have.  

[WildNotMild]

I have read that Nelson turned down 7.5M for 3 years from NYI mid season.  IF true, would the regulars on here prefer Nelson or Rossi for 7.5M?  I would prefer Rossi in that he is younger and has more upside.  Father Time is undefeated in humbling players and GMs in their mid 30s looking for a longer deal with clauses.  I predict Nelson wants a 5 year deal at 7.5M per (minimums).  Don’t be dumb Billy.  Please let someone else sign the other Brocks.

[Citizen Strife]

Rossi for 7.5m, especially on a bridge.  A long term deal or higher money would give me pause.

If Nelson wants say $5.5-6m for short term, then that's something worth considering.  The issue for all of this is what if Boeser and Nelson are kinda Parise/Sutering things and coming as a package deal, but taking less to do it?  I still think I'd go Ehlers and Bennet over Boeser/Nelson if the money is equivalent.  Moreso just to stick it to the Jets.

The issue with the team is 2nd line depth scoring (of people at 50-70 pt value), and 3rd line defense/offense from the blueline in general.  Increasing overall team speed wouldn't be the worst thing either.

 

[mnhockeyfan03]

2 hours ago, WildNotMild said:

I have read that Nelson turned down 7.5M for 3 years from NYI mid season.  IF true, would the regulars on here prefer Nelson or Rossi for 7.5M?  I would prefer Rossi in that he is younger and has more upside.  Father Time is undefeated in humbling players and GMs in their mid 30s looking for a longer deal with clauses.  I predict Nelson wants a 5 year deal at 7.5M per (minimums).  Don’t be dumb Billy.  Please let someone else sign the other Brocks.

If Billy pays anything north of $5mm for Nelson, Boeser or Rossi he should be fired.  And no more than 2-3 years.  I am a hard no on Rossi and Boeser.  Nelson only to play third line and nothing more.  We still need a 1C and another top 6 wing in addition to him.  Also with Kap if his big thing is wanting to win see if he will be ok with $11-12mm rather than $15mm to help the team win.  Get him a few commercial deals to make up the difference.  Trade Faber and Rossi for a true 1C