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Protec Verified Member Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I watched the interviews as well and they were a nothingburger. Rossi seemed like he was the most dejected and down. The questions for he and Kirill were brutal. Let's just hope NoJo is goneski. That'd be the best thing and my great hope. Hynes was unapologetic and claims nothing was exposed by Vegas despite the lost series. Not totally wrong cause the Wild played hard and didn't get bounces. At the same time Hynes choices of who to sit or how to shuffle lines was questionable. So I wasn't impressed with him, seemingly costing MN one game with the Merrill injection and No-Show NoJo. Hartman was very good and Hynes was right that he has the playoffs gene in him. Otherwise, it was just fluff... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNCountryLife Verified Member Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 54 minutes ago, Protec said: I watched the interviews as well and they were a nothingburger. Rossi seemed like he was the most dejected and down. The questions for he and Kirill were brutal. Let's just hope NoJo is goneski. That'd be the best thing and my great hope. Hynes was unapologetic and claims nothing was exposed by Vegas despite the lost series. Not totally wrong cause the Wild played hard and didn't get bounces. At the same time Hynes choices of who to sit or how to shuffle lines was questionable. So I wasn't impressed with him, seemingly costing MN one game with the Merrill injection and No-Show NoJo. Hartman was very good and Hynes was right that he has the playoffs gene in him. Otherwise, it was just fluff... Agree on everything. Definitely hoping Nojo is gone... and Freddy, Vinnie and Nyquist. Nojo played the first couple of games well in the series but he disappeared the last 3 (normal level). That is unacceptable. We have the start of a good bottom 6 with Trenin, Foligno, Hartman that all played well in the playoffs. Would like to see Braz gain a bit of speed but I liked his style of play and hope he comes back. I'm waiting on my judgement of Rossi until I find out if he was injured or not. If he wasn't, he earned 4th line minutes and not a minute more. That doesn't mean I want him traded away. Rossi needs another good summer as I still think he can make that next step still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 36 minutes ago, MNCountryLife said: Agree on everything. Definitely hoping Nojo is gone... and Freddy, Vinnie and Nyquist. Nojo played the first couple of games well in the series but he disappeared the last 3 (normal level). That is unacceptable. We have the start of a good bottom 6 with Trenin, Foligno, Hartman that all played well in the playoffs. Would like to see Braz gain a bit of speed but I liked his style of play and hope he comes back. I'm waiting on my judgement of Rossi until I find out if he was injured or not. If he wasn't, he earned 4th line minutes and not a minute more. That doesn't mean I want him traded away. Rossi needs another good summer as I still think he can make that next step still. Rossi said he wasn't expecting any surgery and only needed to rest to get healthy. He's a good player but if MN keeps him, they need to move on from the other similar players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 23 hours ago, MNCountryLife said: I'm waiting on my judgement of Rossi until I find out if he was injured or not. If he wasn't, he earned 4th line minutes and not a minute more. That doesn't mean I want him traded away. Rossi needs another good summer as I still think he can make that next step still. 60 points in his second season (2nd on the team) and 3 points in his first playoffs (4th line) aren't enough for you? What does this kid have to do? Some people won't be happy until he passes Kaprizov, and even then they'll still want to trade him because he's an inch shorter. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNCountryLife Verified Member Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, Scalptrash said: 60 points in his second season (2nd on the team) and 3 points in his first playoffs (4th line) aren't enough for you? What does this kid have to do? Some people won't be happy until he passes Kaprizov, and even then they'll still want to trade him because he's an inch shorter. I thought he struggled the last couple of months and in the playoffs. He is a #1 draft pick and I expect him to play like it and have the confidence to bring it every night on all 200 feet of ice. I didn't think he played well enough compared to others to move up the lineup. IMO: He played below Ek, Kirill, Boldy, Hartman, Zuc, Foligno and Trenin in the PO. That puts him in bottom 6 territory. We can criticize a player without wanting him off the team. I do hope we keep him and am optimistic he will take the next step next year. He is only 23 and will get better. I don't know why some players seem to get a coaches pass on poor play (Nojo).. while others get scrutinized to the hilt and easily demoted (Rossi). Nojo played well down the stretch but reverted to his typical horrible play the last 3 games yet was never demoted. Braz was criticized a lot and I thought he played his role extremely well. Still belongs on Line 4. Trenin played fantastic in the playoffs yet he got 7 minutes on the ice in the final game. Why? He should have been playing 2nd line minutes with Foligno and Hartman. He earned it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 hour ago, MNCountryLife said: I thought he struggled the last couple of months and in the playoffs. He is a #1 draft pick and I expect him to play like it and have the confidence to bring it every night on all 200 feet of ice. I think it is extremely important to put Rossi's post season in a frame of reference. It was his FIRST playoffs and playing on the forth line to the tune of maybe 10 mins a night. He produced equally as well as Boldy(0-1-1 in 6GP) and Kirill(2-1-3 in 6GP) in their first PS, despite the fact he got 5 mins less a game minimum and played with Braz and Trenin. Playoffs are different. Hard for any player to hit the postseason and be a success their first run. There are anomalies but I think it takes that experience to improve. What does it say about the disparity in treatment of players that neither of those guys were demoted in their respective first year of PS yet Rossi was after a single game. Rossi's extra stats were a+/- of 0, 3 blocks and 7 hits 66:47TOI, Boldy was -1, 3 blocks and 3 hits 79:00TOI and Kap was -3, 5 blocks and 14 hits 131:00TOI. I really don't see how it is even a discussion to get rid of Rossi. I am open to seeing what we get for him, but that player better be solid and put up 60 pts with no history of injury and still be in his early 20's otherwise we absolutely f*cked the dog on our development and asset management. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I'm also not sure where Guerin gets his delusions about loving bigger statured guys ofr playoffs. In his own cups wins, 1995 Neal Broten was 5'9" and the second leading scorer in playoffs for that team and John McLean @ 6' was third. In 2008/09 they had Crosby, Maxine Talbot and Tyler Kennedy, all under 6ft and all in the top 10 scoring for that team in the postseason. Bigger doesn't directly equal success in the playoffs. There is zero correlation. It takes more than banging bodies to win a cup. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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