Article: The Marco Rossi Madness Has To End

[TCMooch]

5 minutes ago, TCMooch said:

I'm a Rossi fan. Hope he leaves this team and lights it up on one that actually appreciates him.

To add to this, why the hell did our genius GM Billy even draft him? Lundell was still available at the time.

[Scalptrash]

36 minutes ago, TCMooch said:

I'm a Rossi fan. Hope he leaves this team and lights it up on one that actually appreciates him.

He will, just like Fiala.

[SkolWild73]

For those that are worried that Rossi will not be back next year, I will try and provide some hope that he will.

1.  The report from Russo that we offered $5M AAV over 5 years states it was back at the beginning of winter.  When exactly I don't know, but if that is in November when the season was only a month old, then the offer makes more sense.

2.  For everyone afraid that he will leave via an offer sheet, there are only 8 teams that can offer him more than the $6.871 and only one of them made the playoffs this year and that was Montreal.  5 of the 8 are in the draft lottery this year.  Will these teams really risk that they will improve enough to not be in the lottery next year for the first or second pick in what is supposed to be a great draft?  I doubt it

3.  There are 14 teams that can offer Rossi the $4.58-$6.87M with the risk of losing a first and a third and only 4 made the playoffs.

4.  Even if he does get an offer sheet and signs it in the above range, the Wild can still choose to match it.  If Rossi is offered, signs it and then we match, we are not allowed to trade him for one year.

5.  Say Rossi does not sign an offer sheet with another team.  As long as the Wild give him a qualifying offer in time, Rossi would have to sign it by December 1st or sit out the year.  They can also negotiate a better contract during this time.  He could request a trade, but the Wild would not have to honor the request.

The only real threat of Rossi leaving is if we decide that we want to trade him.  Unless Billy already has a trade target in mind and Rossi needs to be part of that trade, I am still of the belief that some common ground will be found, and Rossi will be back next year.

[Burnt Toast]

2 hours ago, Wild for Wild said:

Rossi

Sooo… Marco is close to the top of weight in squat lifts with the entire Wild roster. At one point I read second. What does this point to? He’s strong and a hard worker. Is Marco aware of how tall he is? My guess is he’s been battling taller players his whole career. He’s working his plan. It doesn’t depend on the Wild resigning him. He’s going to keep improving IMO. I have no idea of what his ceiling is or his future worth in AAV. Personally I like Marco because I like what he says, his attitude and on ice success. He should physically peak out between age 26-28. He’s going to be a beast. 

[OldDutchChip]

3 hours ago, Wild for Wild said:

Confused by the Rossi situation at best. If he's being penalized for his size only, I believe he had the same height and approximate weight when they drafted him. So why did you draft him at all? Not like you drafted him unseen, and once you had him you then realized he was 5'9" and you were stuck with him. And the kicker is, is that he's a hard working skater who performs. Not sure what Hynes is trying to "prove" by stapling a 60 point scorer to the bench, but it should cost him his job. Especially if the VGN series goes south.

rossi is not being penalized - he plays the same amount as almost every one else except for L1 (and he is NOT a L1) player. remove the special team play and you get basically same time on ice. rossi also found decent chemistry with trenin so why break that up? trenin is big and works the boards and can get the puck to a shifty, skilled Rossi (not to mention easier matchups). why would you break that up and place Rossi with Zuccy instead or whoever else? that's going to remove all the advantage you just created! rossi and trenin pair are yielding good results but we are crying about it? right not - it does not matter the line number - what matters is that you are helping the team win. that takes priority. coach has correctly played him every game this PO. 

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, SkolWild73 said:

For those that are worried that Rossi will not be back next year, I will try and provide some hope that he will.

1.  The report from Russo that we offered $5M AAV over 5 years states it was back at the beginning of winter.  When exactly I don't know, but if that is in November when the season was only a month old, then the offer makes more sense.

2.  For everyone afraid that he will leave via an offer sheet, there are only 8 teams that can offer him more than the $6.871 and only one of them made the playoffs this year and that was Montreal.  5 of the 8 are in the draft lottery this year.  Will these teams really risk that they will improve enough to not be in the lottery next year for the first or second pick in what is supposed to be a great draft?  I doubt it

3.  There are 14 teams that can offer Rossi the $4.58-$6.87M with the risk of losing a first and a third and only 4 made the playoffs.

4.  Even if he does get an offer sheet and signs it in the above range, the Wild can still choose to match it.  If Rossi is offered, signs it and then we match, we are not allowed to trade him for one year.

5.  Say Rossi does not sign an offer sheet with another team.  As long as the Wild give him a qualifying offer in time, Rossi would have to sign it by December 1st or sit out the year.  They can also negotiate a better contract during this time.  He could request a trade, but the Wild would not have to honor the request.

The only real threat of Rossi leaving is if we decide that we want to trade him.  Unless Billy already has a trade target in mind and Rossi needs to be part of that trade, I am still of the belief that some common ground will be found, and Rossi will be back next year.

For those that are worried that Rossi will not be back next year, I will try and provide some hope that he will. 

For everyone afraid

The only real threat of Rossi leaving

There is a Rossi hysteria in MN. You all acting like teenagers. Worry/Hope/Afraid/Threat! Goodness!

 

[SkolWild73]

54 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

For those that are worried that Rossi will not be back next year, I will try and provide some hope that he will. 

For everyone afraid

The only real threat of Rossi leaving

There is a Rossi hysteria in MN. You all acting like teenagers. Worry/Hope/Afraid/Threat! Goodness!

 

What are you even talking about?

[OldDutchChip]

1 minute ago, SkolWild73 said:

What are you even talking about?

too much unnecessary llama drama

[SkolWild73]

4 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

too much unnecessary llama drama

My question remains the same

[OldDutchChip]

13 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

My question remains the same

Let go of babying Rossi

he is not a priority 

he is actually being handled fine by the coach and sometimes you wait out a player during contract negotiations - that happens

instead - you may want to consider if Kap resigns as that IS a much larger issue …. But all hysteria is surrounding Rossi, like Kap is no biggie- but loosing Rossi will be devastating.  
 

[SkolWild73]

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

Let go of babying Rossi

he is not a priority 

he is actually being handled fine by the coach and sometimes you wait out a player during contract negotiations - that happens

instead - you may want to consider if Kap resigns as that IS a much larger issue …. But all hysteria is surrounding Rossi, like Kap is no biggie- but loosing Rossi will be devastating.  
 

Again, what are you talking about? As always, you completely misinterpreted/misread the post.  Babying Rossi?  What part of my post did that?  Where in my post did I say anything about how we was being handled by the coach?  When did I say Kap resigning is not an issue? The post, as I said in the first sentence was for people that were worried if Rossi might leave and then laid out scenarios.

Yet you decide you will take it as an opportunity to pull out words that I use for what?  As an insult?  Yet you say, (I think because I still don't understand your first reply), that because of my post and the words I used I am acting like a teenager?

Teething dog still got you down?

 

[OldDutchChip]

10 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

Again, what are you talking about? As always, you completely misinterpreted/misread the post.  Babying Rossi?  What part of my post did that?  Where in my post did I say anything about how we was being handled by the coach?  When did I say Kap resigning is not an issue? The post, as I said in the first sentence was for people that were worried if Rossi might leave and then laid out scenarios.

Yet you decide you will take it as an opportunity to pull out words that I use for what?  As an insult?  Yet you say, (I think because I still don't understand your first reply), that because of my post and the words I used I am acting like a teenager?

Teething dog still got you down?

 

last chance - you are creating a hysteria where NONE exist. and then half the forum is in tears over it. if some team is foolish enough to offer rossi 9-10 (which hawks prob consider) then you laugh at them and get the picks. or you revisit the bridge deal and make rossi see that it is the best for both sides and allows him to get more $ in the near future with whoever he wants. there are other scenarios too that would involve a trade. but overall - there is just too much talk about a player like rossi. too many emotions involved. he is not the pillar that holds our team together. he was rightfully demoted for his play and is where he should be. why i bring Kap into this is because Kap is crucial to our long-term success and this July is do or die for us. but all the urgency is somehow placed on rossi's situation. our focus should be team win and ensuring our superstar is happy and stays, instead we cry for a replaceable rossi....

and yes - dog is a menace

[SkolWild73]

Just now, OldDutchChip said:

last chance - you are creating a hysteria where NONE exist. and then half the forum is in tears over it. if some team is foolish enough to offer rossi 9-10 (which hawks prob consider) then you laugh at them and get the picks. or you revisit the bridge deal and make rossi see that it is the best for both sides and allows him to get more $ in the near future with whoever he wants. there are other scenarios too that would involve a trade. but overall - there is just too much talk about a player like rossi. too many emotions involved. he is not the pillar that holds our team together. he was rightfully demoted for his play and is where he should be. why i bring Kap into this is because Kap is crucial to our long-term success and this July is do or die for us. but all the urgency is somehow placed on rossi's situation. our focus should be team win and ensuring our superstar is happy and stays, instead we cry for a replaceable rossi....

and yes - dog is a menace

Dude, again you misunderstand the post.  This is an article about Rossi, not Kap.  There were plenty of comments about Rossi maybe leaving on this thread which is why I posted what I did.  I didn’t put it in the article about Gus.  I do not need to post on every article about Kap being a priority or give the 101 reasons that he will leave.  If an article is about someone, I post about that player.

 

How you see my post as creating hysteria is beyond me.  As I said a couple of weeks ago when you called me out for posting a link to an article about Spurg in an thread that was about Spurg, if you don’t like what I post, you don’t have to read it.  

[OldDutchChip]

Just now, SkolWild73 said:

Dude, again you misunderstand the post.  This is an article about Rossi, not Kap.  There were plenty of comments about Rossi maybe leaving on this thread which is why I posted what I did.  I didn’t put it in the article about Gus.  I do not need to post on every article about Kap being a priority or give the 101 reasons that he will leave.  If an article is about someone, I post about that player.

 

How you see my post as creating hysteria is beyond me.  As I said a couple of weeks ago when you called me out for posting a link to an article about Spurg in an thread that was about Spurg, if you don’t like what I post, you don’t have to read it.  

i didn't misunderstand that - i pointed out the fact that we need to relax on this madness surrounding rossi. where is the disconnect?

There were plenty of comments about Rossi maybe leaving on this thread which is why I posted what I did. exactly! it's like this forum is becoming a shrine to rossi. 

I do not need to post on every article about Kap being a priority or give the 101 reasons that he will leave.  If an article is about someone, I post about that player. this is an article and post that is again about Rossi - you can post about whatever you like i think. but i am pointing out that there is an overwhelming surplus of articles and fan cries about rossi, while neglecting the situation with kap. 

How you see my post as creating hysteria is beyond me. when a person use terms like "worry" "threat" "afraid" he creates a hysteria. 

if you don’t like what I post, you don’t have to read it.  if it stung, that means there is some truth to it. 

[SkolWild73]

1 minute ago, OldDutchChip said:

i didn't misunderstand that - i pointed out the fact that we need to relax on this madness surrounding rossi. where is the disconnect?

There were plenty of comments about Rossi maybe leaving on this thread which is why I posted what I did. exactly! it's like this forum is becoming a shrine to rossi. 

I do not need to post on every article about Kap being a priority or give the 101 reasons that he will leave.  If an article is about someone, I post about that player. this is an article and post that is again about Rossi - you can post about whatever you like i think. but i am pointing out that there is an overwhelming surplus of articles and fan cries about rossi, while neglecting the situation with kap. 

How you see my post as creating hysteria is beyond me. when a person use terms like "worry" "threat" "afraid" he creates a hysteria. 

if you don’t like what I post, you don’t have to read it.  if it stung, that means there is some truth to it. 

 

If it makes you feel better to pick apart my words from my post go ahead.  If you truly believe that how I worded my post creates hysteria, good for you.  To most people I doubt it reads that way.   

It's an article on Rossi.  There should be comments about him.  How many of the posts are yours? 40?

Nobody is neglecting Kap.  His contract is for another year.  Almost all of us want him back.  Rossi could be gone in a couple of months.  

If it stung there must be some truth?  I only said you dont have to read it becuse you seem to have a problem with what I post.  If it makes you so upset, move on is all.