SkolWild73 Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:19 PM I know many think we will trade him. Others say he isn’t built for the playoffs because of his size. In reality, we have no idea if he can play in the playoffs. He has played one game and 12 minutes. I don’t think playing on the 4th line tonight will help. I am not saying Rossi is as good as the following players, but he is 23 and has room to grow. So those who say he can’t be a playoff performer because of his size think the following players are not either? Brad Marchand: 5’9 180 pounds Patrick Kane: 5’10 175 pounds Brayden Point: 5’10 183 Johnny Gaudreau: (RIP) 5’9 165 Jonathan Marchessault: 5’9 180 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:28 PM (edited) If he's playing hurt, why even have him out there? Let's say, "He could still be a PP2 threat." For what, an extra 30-1 minute of garbage time that the team won't use because the other five guys take the biggest chunk of PP anyway? The team would probably be well served just pulling an Ek and saying Rossi is too hurt to play effectively. At least then they have plausible deniability. Edited Tuesday at 08:31 PM by Citizen Strife 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:36 PM 5 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: If he's playing hurt, why even have him out there? Let's say, "He could still be a PP2 threat. For what, an extra 30-1 minute of garbage time that the team won't use because the other five guys take the biggest chunk of PP anyway? The team would probably be well served just pulling an Ek and saying Rossi is too hurt to play effectively. At least then they have plausible deniability. I think he has been playing through some stuff. Rossi had 51 points(21 goals) through 60 games, and has just 9 points(3 goals) in the last 23 games. Have to give him credit for playing all 82 games, but some time off likely would have been preferred if the Wild had their full contingent of forwards available. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM If Rossi isn't hurt, Game 1 was a borderline brain dead decision by Hynes. Put your most talented players in the best position to succeed and then make changes if they don't. Not the other way around. SMH... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforceror Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 11:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:40 PM So logically, what reasons do we have for Rossi being down in the lineup? 1. GM/Coach doesn't like him For those of you saying Guerin and/or Hynes don't like Rossi, what are the sources? Yeah, Russo says he's getting traded but with as tight-lipped as MN staff is (injuries anyone?), do we really think BG is going to show his trade chips to the world? Are there any other legitimate sources that show BG/Hynes don't like Rossi? 2. Injury/burnout Without a doubt, Rossi took a puck to the knee and I do believe it was around the time his production dropped off (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). With the resilience and hard work he has shown throughout the season....I just can't seem him being the coasting type unless he has a reason or is physically unable to perform to his ability. 3. Disgruntled Maybe this just belongs in number 1, but it was reported that contract negotiations were very far apart. Possible Rossi feels disgruntled or contract negotiation has created a rift. 4. Hynes Suprise Hynes likes to be tricky. Lines could be completely different during the game, not to mention changes throughout the game as he implements strategies. 5. Really bad slump Rossi could be stuck in his head after all the pressure of trying to make up for the absence of Kap and Ek. Hynes could be trying to figure at how to resuscitate him. 6. The Bettman Knights (nod to Red) are paying them off. Hey anything is possible right? LFGW, get this one tonight!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfan2k Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 11:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:45 PM Good article, and agree with Robert on needing to Rossi in top six again. Unfortunately either Mr Guerin or poor Hynes made the choice to move him to 4th line tonight for game 2. I’m a Rossi fan and believe he gives the Wild the best chance to win (score) when playing between Kaprizov and Boldy. Then worry about size on lines 2-4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforceror Verified Member Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:54 PM (edited) Pretty decent interview with Hynes seeming like his filter was a little askew. Talks about Rossi, Nyquist and the Foligno/Rossi/Nyquist line. Hynes Game 2 Pregame at Vegas 4/22 | Minnesota Wild Edited Tuesday at 11:55 PM by Enforceror 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:52 AM 🙃 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalptrash Verified Member Posted Wednesday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:19 PM 16 hours ago, MacGyver said: From what Pat Micheletti said on the radio the other day Guerin's ace up his sleeve is Brock Nelson. Only Micheletti described him as the "big fish" the Wild have their eyes on this off season. I'd prefer the other Brock, at least he's still in his 20's. But I really hope it's not any Brock. Guerin likes his old men though, so nothing will surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMC1976 Verified Member Posted Wednesday at 03:28 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:28 PM (edited) I'll just leave this here... 1. Russo isn't an NHL insider like the homers on FDS like to chirp. (see guys like Friedman, Button, Hradek for actual insider info. Even McKenzie and Starman are better connected) 2. We've all seen this before from Russo with Granlund. 3. Appreciate the opinion Russo - just call it what it is please and thank you. Edited Wednesday at 03:29 PM by JMC1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted Wednesday at 03:32 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:32 PM Rossi on the 4th line is not a good fit. He would be required to provide offense all by himself. Trenin doesn't pass well, and Breezers is having trouble catching up. Rossi is a top 6 player, and needs some guys with him, but our "guys" are also too small (though I don't consider Rossi small, just short). However, with that group, he has been responsible, and made sure that no odd man rushes were coming back. Maybe just breaking even helps? Maybe that's what they had to do on the road? Maybe they can match him up better at home? But, if this is how they will use him, put some speed with him. Why not try putting Ohgren in for Breezers and having Trenin stay? At least OgZ can handle a puck and skate! He also needs to get into this series! Also, Breezers is big, but he is NOT taking the body hard like he should be. Maybe he can't catch the Vegas players? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornetsHornets Provisional Member Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM He’s hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Verified Member Posted Thursday at 08:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:16 PM Listened to Russo's podcast. Apparently the Rossi camp was offered 5X5 and they said thanks but no thanks. This is how Billy operates. He's not one of Billy's boys, Billy don't like em young but he's good enough if I can get him on the cheap. If not I'll bury him on the 4th line and give him ten minutes a game and then get what I can for him in the off season. Rossi is out so get used to it Rossi fans and don't hold your breath on a big return. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhockeyfan03 Verified Member Posted Thursday at 08:27 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:27 PM 9 minutes ago, MacGyver said: Listened to Russo's podcast. Apparently the Rossi camp was offered 5X5 and they said thanks but no thanks. This is how Billy operates. He's not one of Billy's boys, Billy don't like em young but he's good enough if I can get him on the cheap. If not I'll bury him on the 4th line and give him ten minutes a game and then get what I can for him in the off season. Rossi is out so get used to it Rossi fans and don't hold your breath on a big return. Rossi at 5x5 is overpaying. Teams are going to see the last 2 months and our trade value is going to be very low. He is not fast enough to make up for size disadvantage. He will be traded but we aren’t going to get much back. More a salary dump. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Verified Member Posted Thursday at 09:30 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:30 PM I don't think it's an overpay but it should be closer to 6 to 6.5 X5. He's playing hurt right now so I'm not judging him on a couple playoff games with little ice time on the 4th line. He's going to continue to improve given the strides he's taken the last two seasons. He was fast enough to put up 60 points this year. But his ticket is punched and some other team will benefit from his skill set and know how to put them to better use. And they will get him for not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted Thursday at 09:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:49 PM I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't bring much in a trade. A team with a player who's difficult to sign like K'Andre Miller possibly or another guy who needs a change of scenery will be the kind of swap GMBG would want. MN has other guys they could package and I think they could get a good result from a trade. Maybe another young guy but one with a different look from Rossi. It's possible, never know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhockeyfan03 Verified Member Posted yesterday at 12:28 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:28 AM 2 hours ago, Protec said: I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't bring much in a trade. A team with a player who's difficult to sign like K'Andre Miller possibly or another guy who needs a change of scenery will be the kind of swap GMBG would want. MN has other guys they could package and I think they could get a good result from a trade. Maybe another young guy but one with a different look from Rossi. It's possible, never know. I would love a guy like kandre miller. Another guy who might be on the block is rasmus Anderson from Calgary. He is very talented RHD and mean and a prick to play against. We need guys like him. When we played them he irritated the heck out of our top guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhockeyfan03 Verified Member Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM I would dangle Rossi for rasmus anderson and sign him long term 5x7-8mm. Then dangle Faber and something else to Buffalo for Tage Thompson or Ottawa for Brady or another team to get the 1C we need or top forward then fill in pieces with other trades to get us 3 more new top 9 fwds. Let’s think big and be creative and for those saying it’s not possible it is. Just takes outside the box thinking and some stones. We want a cup not just a playoff birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLake Verified Member Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:57 AM Rossi is gone and he knows it. So does his agent. Let's F'in go gritty Hartman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted yesterday at 03:01 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:01 AM 5 hours ago, Protec said: I wouldn't be so sure he doesn't bring much in a trade. A team with a player who's difficult to sign like K'Andre Miller possibly or another guy who needs a change of scenery will be the kind of swap GMBG would want. MN has other guys they could package and I think they could get a good result from a trade. Maybe another young guy but one with a different look from Rossi. It's possible, never know. Why do the Wild need Miller with Jiricek? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nels Verified Member Posted yesterday at 01:08 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:08 PM (edited) 10 hours ago, Tony Abbott said: Why do the Wild need Miller with Jiricek? If we're going to dangle Rossi/picks/prospects/players for anybody it needs to be another center. Ala Byfield, Thompson, Larkin (maybe).. Byfield isn't going anywhere though with his extension and being in the West. But hey it is fun to throw out totally unrealistic trades, I can see why some do it daily on here 😏 Edited yesterday at 01:11 PM by M_Nels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted yesterday at 01:32 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:32 PM On 4/22/2025 at 10:27 AM, OldDutchChip said: we need Rossi to succeed and drive the line he is given. This is not the time to “help him out” by moving him to a more skilled teammate- he needs to step up and give the team balance. Yea, you can plug him w Kap, but that doesn’t solve depth issues. He needs to show he can drive the line-that’s it. Boldy is stepping up. Faber and Rossi are slipping. Fix that. Rossi just had a two pt night last night. He’s doing just fine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:39 PM 17 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said: Rossi at 5x5 is overpaying. Teams are going to see the last 2 months and our trade value is going to be very low. He is not fast enough to make up for size disadvantage. He will be traded but we aren’t going to get much back. More a salary dump. Ya 5 mil a year for a second year player that scored 60pt is an over payment… he knows what he’s worth and deserves more than that. I could see 5 a year for a smaller bridge deal but his trajectory is indicative of being at a higher value. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:40 PM 12 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said: I would dangle Rossi for rasmus anderson and sign him long term 5x7-8mm. Then dangle Faber and something else to Buffalo for Tage Thompson or Ottawa for Brady or another team to get the 1C we need or top forward then fill in pieces with other trades to get us 3 more new top 9 fwds. Let’s think big and be creative and for those saying it’s not possible it is. Just takes outside the box thinking and some stones. We want a cup not just a playoff birth. Are you 16 or something? These trades you come up with are ridiculous. This isn’t a video game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM 28 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said: Rossi just had a two pt night last night. He’s doing just fine. Good for him! But with or without the goal - he was a third best player on L4 trenin stepped up and so did Braz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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