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RedLake Verified Member Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Minny has to play what they're stuck with and Gus is the number 1 goalie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Can't trust any team to take care of the Blues or Flames. The Wild have to keep getting their own points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisopher Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I'm betting / hoping Fleury gets the final game of the season, at home against ANA. A nice final send-off, and give Gus a break before starting the playoffs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezig Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Unable to score and too many shots allowed isn't a formula for success, no matter the goalie. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 MN doesn't really have the most durable back end recently. Not one healthy guy really. The Wild in general have been injured but Brodin, Spurge, and guys MN has counted on or felt were elite players aren't getting the job done if they're not even playing. The Wild appear to have suffered another derailed season due to injuries and inability to fix old problems like special teams and draws. Those two things have both been evident in recent losses. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) I did some maths, and I "think" I have the number crunching figured out. Current Wild points: 89 (6 games remaining) Current Flames points: 84 (7 games remaining) Current Canucks points: 81 (7 games remaining) Current UHC points: 80 points (6 games remaining) Mostly going with Wild and Flames here, but here's some maths. This doesn't include loser points for ease. Wild go 0-6, 89 points, Flames need 3-4 to get to 90 points, Canucks need 5-2 to get to 91 points, UHC need 5-1 to get to 90 points Wild go 1-5, 91 points, Flames need 4-3 to get to 92 points, Canucks need 6-1 to get to 93 points, UHC needs 6-0 to get to 92 points Wild go 2-4, 93 points, Flames need 5-2 to get to 94 points, Canucks need 7-0 to get to 95 points, Utah Eliminated Regardless Wild go 3-3, 95 points, Flames need 6-1 to get to 96 points, Canucks and UHC Eliminated Regardless Wild go 4-2, 97 points, Flames need 7-0 to get to 98 points Wild go 5-1, 98 points, Clinch Regardless of other teams Edited April 4 by Citizen Strife 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 You lost me at Dubnyk and elite goaltending. He was near the bottom of the NHL in adjusted save percentage. Not bottom amongst starters. Bottom amongst ALL goalies. The Wild were an ELITE defensive team with terrible goaltending those years. The reason he never played in the 2nd round is because he sucked. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 20 minutes ago, Patrick said: The reason he never played in the 2nd round is because he sucked. That seems a little strong. He wasn't elite perhaps, but he was on the positive side of goals saved above average for 5 straight seasons with the Wild, and he had a .936 save percentage in 39 regular season starts the year they brought him over via trade. Dubnyk did advance to play in the 2nd round that year by allowing the Blues to score just 4 total goals in the 4 wins he recorded in the 2015 playoffs. The reason the Wild failed to advance in the playoffs frequently was probably tied to very mediocre coaching, if we're being charitable. The coaching was likely far below average for playoff teams. Chicago, who knocked them out of the 2015 playoffs, was also a phenomenal team back then, winning the Stanley cup in 2015. It was tough for the Wild to keep up with their talent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Verified Member Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said: I did some maths, and I "think" I have the number crunching figured out. Current Wild points: 89 (6 games remaining) Current Flames points: 84 (7 games remaining) Current Canucks points: 81 (7 games remaining) Current UHC points: 80 points (6 games remaining) Mostly going with Wild and Flames here, but here's some maths. This doesn't include loser points for ease. Wild go 0-6, 89 points, Flames need 3-4 to get to 90 points, Canucks need 5-2 to get to 91 points, UHC need 5-1 to get to 90 points Wild go 1-5, 91 points, Flames need 4-3 to get to 92 points, Canucks need 6-1 to get to 93 points, UHC needs 6-0 to get to 92 points Wild go 2-4, 93 points, Flames need 5-2 to get to 94 points, Canucks need 7-0 to get to 95 points, Utah Eliminated Regardless Wild go 3-3, 95 points, Flames need 6-1 to get to 96 points, Canucks and UHC Eliminated Regardless Wild go 4-2, 97 points, Flames need 7-0 to get to 98 points Wild go 5-1, 98 points, Clinch Regardless of other teams So basically the Wild need to win half of these remaining six games to really apply the pressure to the Flames to be damn near perfect. I think this will be pretty easy with our offense coming back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:14 PM 20 hours ago, Sam said: So basically the Wild need to win half of these remaining six games to really apply the pressure to the Flames to be damn near perfect. I think this will be pretty easy with our offense coming back. I still think 90 is the magic number, I don't think the Flames get more than that. But, I can see them in our rear view mirror. Goose needs a break, he is worn down just like Dubnyk got. I think we need to sacrifice a game and let the goalie have some rest. MAF should have gotten one of the NY games. If there is no confidence in MAF, we've got the LTIR money to bring up The Wall and give him a shot at some relief. However, as I look down at his stats, he looks like he hasn't played in awhile so he might be hurt, couldn't find anything on an injury, but that doesn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted Saturday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:55 PM 22 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: That seems a little strong. He wasn't elite perhaps, but he was on the positive side of goals saved above average for 5 straight seasons with the Wild, and he had a .936 save percentage in 39 regular season starts the year they brought him over via trade. Sorry but you are completely wrong. Per MoneyPuck, Dubnyks only full year where he was positive was 15-16 where he managed a modest 0.2 goals saved above expected. in 17-18 he was ranked 76 out of 95 qualifying goalies in 18-19 he was ranked 87 out of 93 qualifying goalies in 19-20 he was ranked 84 out of 85 qualifying goalies. He was the WORST starting goalie in the NHL for 3 consecutive seasons and was badly outplayed by Stalock in those years. And his post season stats were considerably worse. His adjusted save percentage was equally bad if not worse. The best argument you make is the terrible MN coaching that kept putting an objectively terrible goalie in the nets night after night. But he was part of the Suter/Parise good ol' boys club so maybe it wasn't a coaches decision.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted Saturday at 04:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:01 PM Duby was also very up and down with a proclivity for giving up a super-soft one. His good game could be followed by a 5-7 goal beat down. That was part of another strange era when the Wild had good regular seasons despite glaring problems that were greatly illuminated when the playoffs arrived and results proved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up North Guy Verified Member Posted Saturday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:21 PM 2 hours ago, mnfaninnc said: I still think 90 is the magic number, I don't think the Flames get more than that. But, I can see them in our rear view mirror. Goose needs a break, he is worn down just like Dubnyk got. I think we need to sacrifice a game and let the goalie have some rest. MAF should have gotten one of the NY games. If there is no confidence in MAF, we've got the LTIR money to bring up The Wall and give him a shot at some relief. However, as I look down at his stats, he looks like he hasn't played in awhile so he might be hurt, couldn't find anything on an injury, but that doesn't surprise me. Flower will get one of the next two games for sure. I expect the Anaheim game as well assuming the Wild don't need a win to get in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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