Article: The Wild Can't Underestimate the Value Of Centers

[OldDutchChip]

53 minutes ago, raithis said:

You just like to complain to complain. 

Kaprizov's contract doesn't run out until 2026-27.  All of the people you named would be signed under the 2025-26 salary cap.  The cap is projected to go up around another $9M for 2026-27 and Zuccarello's contract would also be up.

Assuming we don't re-sign Zuccarello after next year, our largest contracts we'd have to worry about would be Kaprizov and Gustavsson - and we should have around $26M available for both of them if we use every bit of cap space available to us in 2025-26.  If we don't, then we have even more space available.

Yes, small chunks of that might go to an AHLer or two who makes the team in 2026-27, but there still will be a lot to work with when we are looking to extend him beyond 2025-26.  And honestly if an AHLer or two is good enough to warrant time in the NHL, then Hartman or Trenin or Foligno probably gets traded or bought out and we have even more cap space to work with.

You're complaining makes no sense whatsoever.

 

 

what doesn't make much sense is this - (maybe check the contract again and respond again later) - 

Kaprizov's contract doesn't run out until 2026-27.

[raithis]

On 3/26/2025 at 1:31 PM, OldDutchChip said:

what doesn't make much sense is this - (maybe check the contract again and respond again later) - 

Kaprizov's contract doesn't run out until 2026-27.

There's nothing wrong with what I said.  I didn't say the "end of 2026-27".  I was talking about salary cap space for seasons.

If he doesn't sign, we wouldn't have him for the start of 2026-27 season (which is why I said until that season), and any salary amount related to the contract he signs would be effective for that season (again, 2026-27).  The context of my entire argument indicated as much. 

Your argument was that we couldn't afford to sign him because we would sign to many people this off-season (prior to 2025-26), which is completely incorrect - and the mere fact that I did not explicitly clarify what part of 2026-27 I meant in that one statement does not change that. 

The point still stands that no free agent they sign or player they trade for this this off-season or during the 2025-26 season will prevent them from re-signing Kaprizov. 

[Enforceror]

Yurov played today as Metallurg lost in OT.

They're now down 0-2 with games scheduled for Sunday 3/30 and Tuesday 4/1.

 

[OldDutchChip]

2 hours ago, raithis said:

There's nothing wrong with what I said.  I didn't say the "end of 2026-27".  I was talking about salary cap space for seasons.

If he doesn't sign, we wouldn't have him for the start of 2026-27 season (which is why I said until that season), and any salary amount related to the contract he signs would be effective for that season (again, 2026-27).  The context of my entire argument indicated as much. 

Your argument was that we couldn't afford to sign him because we would sign to many people this off-season (prior to 2025-26), which is completely incorrect - and the mere fact that I did not explicitly clarify what part of 2026-27 I meant in that one statement does not change that. 

The point still stands that no free agent they sign or player they trade for this this off-season or during the 2025-26 season will prevent them from re-signing Kaprizov. 

What is your point?

kaprizov is signed until the end of next year, so 2025/26

[OldDutchChip]

2 hours ago, raithis said:

There's nothing wrong with what I said.  I didn't say the "end of 2026-27".  I was talking about salary cap space for seasons.

If he doesn't sign, we wouldn't have him for the start of 2026-27 season (which is why I said until that season), and any salary amount related to the contract he signs would be effective for that season (again, 2026-27).  The context of my entire argument indicated as much. 

Your argument was that we couldn't afford to sign him because we would sign to many people this off-season (prior to 2025-26), which is completely incorrect - and the mere fact that I did not explicitly clarify what part of 2026-27 I meant in that one statement does not change that. 

The point still stands that no free agent they sign or player they trade for this this off-season or during the 2025-26 season will prevent them from re-signing Kaprizov. 

if you meant that at the start of his next contract (26/7) we'll have money to afford him - then please look back at my witty remark that said Billy is likely to trade Rossi for Boeser and then sign Nelson - both of whom would leave NO money left for Kaprizov, even with the increase in Cap. 

The point still stands that no free agent they sign or player they trade for this this off-season or during the 2025-26 season will prevent them from re-signing Kaprizov.  again i doubt nelson and boeser (in my scenario) would be signed for a year so YES their contracts do impact our ability to sign Kap. 

[RedLake]

2 hours ago, Enforceror said:

Yurov played today as Metallurg lost in OT.

They're now down 0-2 with games scheduled for Sunday 3/30 and Tuesday 4/1.

 

Plug him in ASAP

[Need4speed99]

On 3/26/2025 at 12:35 PM, raithis said:

You just like to complain to complain. 

Kaprizov's contract doesn't run out until 2026-27.  All of the people you named would be signed under the 2025-26 salary cap.  The cap is projected to go up around another $9M for 2026-27 and Zuccarello's contract would also be up.

Assuming we don't re-sign Zuccarello after next year, our largest contracts we'd have to worry about would be Kaprizov and Gustavsson - and we should have around $26M available for both of them if we use every bit of cap space available to us in 2025-26.  If we don't, then we have even more space available.

Yes, small chunks of that might go to an AHLer or two who makes the team in 2026-27, but there still will be a lot to work with when we are looking to extend him beyond 2025-26.  And honestly if an AHLer or two is good enough to warrant time in the NHL, then Hartman or Trenin or Foligno probably gets traded or bought out and we have even more cap space to work with.

You're complaining makes no sense whatsoever.

 

 

Ummm what about trenin, Hartman, gadreau, or foligno.... a ton of money tied up in 4th liners.

So they get more?! What is going to change? They will overpay for more aging vets or blow the bank and sign very good but not ELITE players to WAY overpriced contracts for too long.... and the mediocrity will continue. When you see the pattern...

[Need4speed99]

On 3/26/2025 at 12:35 PM, raithis said:

You just like to complain to complain. 

Kaprizov's contract doesn't run out until 2026-27.  All of the people you named would be signed under the 2025-26 salary cap.  The cap is projected to go up around another $9M for 2026-27 and Zuccarello's contract would also be up.

Assuming we don't re-sign Zuccarello after next year, our largest contracts we'd have to worry about would be Kaprizov and Gustavsson - and we should have around $26M available for both of them if we use every bit of cap space available to us in 2025-26.  If we don't, then we have even more space available.

Yes, small chunks of that might go to an AHLer or two who makes the team in 2026-27, but there still will be a lot to work with when we are looking to extend him beyond 2025-26.  And honestly if an AHLer or two is good enough to warrant time in the NHL, then Hartman or Trenin or Foligno probably gets traded or bought out and we have even more cap space to work with.

You're complaining makes no sense whatsoever.

 

 

Yet we don't know if those guys are replaceable. They don't get a chance. How do you get a top 5 prospect pool yet keep signing aging vets. Are the wild that bad at development or just not getting a legit chance?  Either way you need serious change. One liepold and guerin aren't willing to commit to.