Tom Schreier Administrator Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 View full article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforceror Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Interesting. This wasn't something I was aware of or had even considered but it makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieGismylover Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 The damning evidence is an infection in the shoulder. I’m closer to being Dr. Nick than C Everett Coop, but I don’t think you can get an infection in your shoulder without an open wound? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Very interesting article. Maybe it sheds some light on the Wilds medical staff. We always seem to have way too many injuries. Idk it does make you wonder about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortis Provisional Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Infection could have been caused by a non-sterile cortisone injection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezig Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 She's taking excellent care of each of the players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I'd like to see this thread pulled on a bit... The fact that McAvoy was actually admitted to the hospital for IV antibiotics along with a debridement and irrigation procedure seems to suggest that the shot he was given got infected. The likelihood of an injection administered by a medical professional should be very low if they follow proper procedure. You typically only see these types of infections in junkies re-using their needles to inject god knows what in a non-sterile environment. Hell, even junkies can manage to figure out how to poke themselves without immediately causing infection. So yeah, if I were the Bruins org I'd be pissed too. Infected injection sites that require a hospital stay is serious business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 12 hours ago, BillieGismylover said: The damning evidence is an infection in the shoulder. I’m closer to being Dr. Nick than C Everett Coop, but I don’t think you can get an infection in your shoulder without an open wound? I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express but I think a staph infection can happen without an open wound. (There is a ton of Staph in locker rooms). I wonder what type of infection it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, MrCheatachu said: I'd like to see this thread pulled on a bit... The fact that McAvoy was actually admitted to the hospital for IV antibiotics along with a debridement and irrigation procedure seems to suggest that the shot he was given got infected. The likelihood of an injection administered by a medical professional should be very low if they follow proper procedure. You typically only see these types of infections in junkies re-using their needles to inject god knows what in a non-sterile environment. Hell, even junkies can manage to figure out how to poke themselves without immediately causing infection. So yeah, if I were the Bruins org I'd be pissed too. Infected injection sites that require a hospital stay is serious business. Yup. A pain management shot in a filthy hockey locker room is risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 12 hours ago, greg said: Very interesting article. Maybe it sheds some light on the Wilds medical staff. We always seem to have way too many injuries. Idk it does make you wonder about it. IMHO the injuries themselves aren’t to be blamed on the Med Staff. The recovery (and re-injury) of players is now in question for me. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 All valid criticisms of the medical staff IMO. It does raise questions to have this many questionable calls. It's still quite a bit of speculation though, but I'll play along. One thing we do know is that medical opinion is almost universally over conservative (ie safety over risk). The fact that the Wild have had numerous calls that went the other way makes me think that they lack power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, Will D. Ness said: All valid criticisms of the medical staff IMO. It does raise questions to have this many questionable calls. It's still quite a bit of speculation though, but I'll play along. One thing we do know is that medical opinion is almost universally over conservative (ie safety over risk). The fact that the Wild have had numerous calls that went the other way makes me think that they lack power. If we don't use an internet message board to wildly speculate, then what is the point of it 😉? This was the first I heard about the Maroon thing, where the wild staff let him skate and the Bruins staff shut him down. Couple that with Lauko 'coming back too early' and kaprizov 'who the hell knows whats really going on' makes you start to wonder if the medical staff is not wearing the pants and letting the players/coaches/management run the show cowboys/gamblers who are willing to 'let it ride' with their players long term health incompetent The mcavoy infection has me thinking it's a combo platter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, FredJohnson said: IMHO the injuries themselves aren’t to be blamed on the Med Staff. The recovery (and re-injury) of players is now in question for me. Like Kaprizov's thrice injured now needing surgery? Or Spurgeons re injury? Or Lauko's re injury? This has been going on for 2 YEARS now. Crazy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Patrick said: Like Kaprizov's thrice injured now needing surgery? Or Spurgeons re injury? Or Lauko's re injury? This has been going on for 2 YEARS now. Crazy. Yes, all that. 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nels Verified Member Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 M. Tkachuk now potentially out for the rest of the season. Not a good look for the med staff. Really raises the questions of: Are the Wild team docs incompetent? Do they downplay injuries? Do they not report/communicate well with the players and management? or Are they too trusting of players saying they’re good to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yeah them even letting Ek TRY to play on a broken leg was stupid af. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 14 hours ago, M_Nels said: M. Tkachuk now potentially out for the rest of the season. Not a good look for the med staff. Really raises the questions of: Are the Wild team docs incompetent? Do they downplay injuries? Do they not report/communicate well with the players and management? or Are they too trusting of players saying they’re good to go? All the Brady Tkachuk guys here: Good luck with that now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGyver Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Maybe the curtain has just been pulled back now to us rubes. Maybe this has been a known thing in the league for some time. Could be a reason why players choose not to come here? Billy said on KFAN the other day Kaprizov's is behind on his rehab so his return is further out than expected. If Kaprizov is having a wtf moment with the medical staff there is no amount of money that will keep him here. It never occurred to me that a teams medical staff reputation can be a positive or negative on the ledger players look at when drawing up the list of no go teams but it makes perfect sense now. Obvious even. Whether deserved or not the Wild's medical staff has now been brought into question and that is not good. We are just groomed to thinking doctors are always are beyond second guessing and whatever they do is what's best for us. Personally I do everything I can to stay away from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 97 now out longer than expected + McAvoy injury = Wild medical staff overhaul in 3, 2, 1.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Hearing that McAvoy has had this type of issue before while under Bruins’ care. (Heard Locked On Wild paraphrase Russo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up North Guy Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I have no clue whether the Wild training staff has issues or not. Jumping on the band wagon initiated by the Bruins tells us nothing. Injuries happen in hockey. The intensity of the games amplifies the chance of getting injured. Hinting that KK97's recovery delay is because of the training staff is really uninformed speculation (we all do that on this sight). If the team dumps the staff we will have our answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillieGismylover Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 2/21/2025 at 9:43 AM, FredJohnson said: I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express but I think a staph infection can happen without an open wound. (There is a ton of Staph in locker rooms). I wonder what type of infection it is. Was it reported as staph? I just heard infection. Which would lead me to deduce it came from a dirty needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforceror Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 True or not, the fact that the question has been raised is going to bring some scrutiny. I don't think that's a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dango Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 With the Players having a union there should have been a lot more news of the Wilds history if they had a bad medical staff . But its possible that these things get missed because of the way politics drives agendas and narratives . And certain things get rubber stamped to where no one would ever think that could happen . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nels Verified Member Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 hours ago, MacGyver said: Billy said on KFAN the other day Kaprizov's is behind on his rehab so his return is further out than expected. If Kaprizov is having a wtf moment with the medical staff there is no amount of money that will keep him here. Could also be its just too tender to start aggressively rehabbing, it's not uncommon. The Wild staff didn't perform the procedure and may not even been apart of his recovery at this stage. Not saying they're faultless by any means but there's a lot of unknowns, even with Tkachuk's & McAvoy's too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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