Article: What Should The Wild Do With Ryan Hartman?

[Luke Sims]

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[mnhockeyfan03]

Don’t let him wear a wild jersey again. Waiver him or trade him when able.  It’s sad when the guy we just claimed in his first game plays better than him and is much cheaper.  This is why other trades need to happen as well.  Our guys just aren’t that good. Boldy, Rossi, Zucc, Spurgeon all MIA the last few weeks.  Need to trade them

[Up North Guy]

41 minutes ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

Don’t let him wear a wild jersey again. Waiver him or trade him when able.  It’s sad when the guy we just claimed in his first game plays better than him and is much cheaper.  This is why other trades need to happen as well.  Our guys just aren’t that good. Boldy, Rossi, Zucc, Spurgeon all MIA the last few weeks.  Need to trade them

Rinse and repeat. That horse hasn't been flogged enough yet?

[mnhockeyfan03]

8 minutes ago, Up North Guy said:

Rinse and repeat. That horse hasn't been flogged enough yet?

Not until something happens. We have a GM who is scared to take a risk.  Get rid of the country club and start GMing like Vegas.  No guy on the team is more important than the team and the goal of winning a Cup.

[RedLake]

Get him ready for playoffs. We'll be needing him.

[SkolWild73]

2 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

Not until something happens. We have a GM who is scared to take a risk.  Get rid of the country club and start GMing like Vegas.  No guy on the team is more important than the team and the goal of winning a Cup.

What part of Gming like Vegas are you referring to?  The Eichel trade or something else?

[SkolWild73]

3 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

Don’t let him wear a wild jersey again. Waiver him or trade him when able.  It’s sad when the guy we just claimed in his first game plays better than him and is much cheaper.  This is why other trades need to happen as well.  Our guys just aren’t that good. Boldy, Rossi, Zucc, Spurgeon all MIA the last few weeks.  Need to trade them

So if we trade all the players that haven’t produced in 2 weeks I guess we should have traded Kap after the Dallas playoff series two seasons ago because he had one goal and 0 assists in the 6 games, and that was a power play goal.  Almost all players go through stretches without scoring.  That’s why you have to look at the totality of the year.  Rossi, 46 in 55, Boldy, 45 in 55, and Zucc, 36 in 42.  Nothing wrong with those stats.  

[mnhockeyfan03]

2 hours ago, SkolWild73 said:

What part of Gming like Vegas are you referring to?  The Eichel trade or something else?

Looks at his creative use of cap space.  Also the Eichel trade, stone trade, and how any player looks like they done he doesn’t resign or trades them.  Our guy Billy is a few years behind seeing that cliff and signs them a few more years and we get results like we do now.  The Vegas GM bribgs in players and goes for it every year  

[mnhockeyfan03]

1 hour ago, SkolWild73 said:

So if we trade all the players that haven’t produced in 2 weeks I guess we should have traded Kap after the Dallas playoff series two seasons ago because he had one goal and 0 assists in the 6 games, and that was a power play goal.  Almost all players go through stretches without scoring.  That’s why you have to look at the totality of the year.  Rossi, 46 in 55, Boldy, 45 in 55, and Zucc, 36 in 42.  Nothing wrong with those stats.  

They don’t pass the eye test. Watch them against the good teams in the west.  They fold.  Also their stats are padded for PP.  Their 5x5 results arent good.  Change needs to happen if we want to compete.  

[SkolWild73]

5 minutes ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

They don’t pass the eye test. Watch them against the good teams in the west.  They fold.  Also their stats are padded for PP.  Their 5x5 results arent good.  Change needs to happen if we want to compete.  

Ok.  Rossi has 10, Boldy 13, and Zucc 10 on pp.  Here are comparable points players and their pp and points results. 

 

Matt Duchene, Dallas, 49 points and 16 on pp.  

Robertson, Dallas, 50 points, 14 on pp.

Vilardi, Winnipeg, 49 points, 22 on pp

Bedard, Chicago, 46 points, 16 on pp.

Unless all these players aren’t good on 5x5 either, it looks like our guys are performing as well or better in 5x5.

 

 

 

[SkolWild73]

20 minutes ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

Looks at his creative use of cap space.  Also the Eichel trade, stone trade, and how any player looks like they done he doesn’t resign or trades them.  Our guy Billy is a few years behind seeing that cliff and signs them a few more years and we get results like we do now.  The Vegas GM bribgs in players and goes for it every year  

Yea, but Vegas had cap space to make moves, we have not.  Also, Vegas had just tied for most points in the league and were the second favorite to win the cup when they traded for Eichel, not a year removed from missing the playoffs.  They also did not give up one of their top young players who is signed for 5 more years to get him.  They traded Tuch,  who was 25 and his best point total year was 52, a prospect and a first and a second.  You want to trade Boldy, but we would only get someone back that makes as much or less.   Not sure who is out there that is better than him for that price, and also same age, since Boldy is only 23 and should only get better. 
 

As much as some of us would like to make moves, they probably are not happening until the off-season at the earliest.

[Enforceror]

20 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

Ok.  Rossi has 10, Boldy 13, and Zucc 10 on pp.  Here are comparable points players and their pp and points results. 

 

Matt Duchene, Dallas, 49 points and 16 on pp.  

Robertson, Dallas, 50 points, 14 on pp.

Vilardi, Winnipeg, 49 points, 22 on pp

Bedard, Chicago, 46 points, 16 on pp.

Unless all these players aren’t good on 5x5 either, it looks like our guys are performing as well or better in 5x5.

 

 

 

I would add that we are currently 24th in the league on PP. I think the real issue is we're just not scoring enough, part of that needing to be on the PP.

[SkolWild73]

3 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

I would add that we are currently 24th in the league on PP. I think the real issue is we're just not scoring enough, part of that needing to be on the PP.

I agree with that.  Just trying to show that Rossi, Boldy, and Zucc are doing fine on 5x5.