Article: Does the Yakov Trenin Contract Look Better In Light Of the Expected Cap Explosion?

[Justin Hein]

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[Citizen Strife]

Whatever issues Trenin brings, he offers something the Wild didn't have: 5on5 defensive stability.  A lot of us get so hung up on "where's the offense?" No one ever says, "How do we stop theirs?" There is something intrinsic to this team that works better than last year. The Wild have bought into Hynes's approach and is 10 pts ahead of the bubble despite the same if not worse injuries.

Trenin is doing something that is helping the team win, even if we don't exactly see it in a scoresheet.

PK problems?  Seems like something Trenin alone can't fix.  Only way to solve that at this rate is stay out of the box.

Edited 5 hours ago by Citizen Strife

[Enforceror]

16 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

Whatever issues Trenin brings, he offers something the Wild didn't have: 5on5 defensive stability.  A lot of us get so hung up on "where's the offense?" No one ever says, "How do we stop theirs?" There is something intrinsic to this team that works better than last year. The Wild have bought into Hynes's approach and is 10 pts ahead of the bubble despite the same if not worse injuries.

Trenin is doing something that is helping the team win, even if we don't exactly see it in a scoresheet.

PK problems?  Seems like something Trenin alone can't fix.  Only way to solve that at this rate is stay out of the box.

I think Trenin will be important come playoff time. Especially in the defensive dept, however he does have 6g in 20 playoff games. That rate would make for a 24+ goal 82 game regular season.

[Pewterschmidt]

Ok, we're now admitting that Trenin is horse shit, the honesty is refreshing.

There are still the hold outs that say his cyber metrics show he's effective defensively (don't believe it) but the eye test proves every night that he's got no offensive skills.  Think Delaurias, without the fighting or the checking.  Great!

[Enforceror]

2 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Ok, we're now admitting that Trenin is horse shit, the honesty is refreshing.

There are still the hold outs that say his cyber metrics show he's effective defensively (don't believe it) but the eye test proves every night that he's got no offensive skills.  Think Delaurias, without the fighting or the checking.  Great!

I suppose I need to zero in on him for a game or two. While I don't think he's tilting the ice I feel like he plays the structured game he's been asked to play but again, he hasn't necessarily been my focus.

[Burnt Toast]

YT Plus 7 averages 3 hits a game and half a blocked shot. Got a couple of PK goals and one GWG. He’s pretty big. I’m hoping he earns top dollar in the playoffs. After the season I will make “My Final Decision.” And find out if The Price is Right. 

[Pewterschmidt]

19 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

he hasn't necessarily been my focus.

pay attention to:

1) how slow he is.  always behind the play

2) how awkward and uncomfortable he looks with puck

3) how rarely he make a hockey play when he has to puck

4) how often he's sitting on the ice, instead of standing on his skates

5) how rarely he makes contact with opponents.  there's the occasional 'excuse me' contact after the puck has been passed (because he's behind the play)

[FredJohnson]

Does the Yakov Trenin Contract Look Better In Light Of the Expected Cap Explosion?

Same can be said about Frauddie, Foligno and Hartzy?

[Imyourhuckleberry]

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According to the memo, obtained by ESPN, NHL the salary cap for 2025-26 will rise to $95.5 million, with a floor of $70.6 million. In 2026-27, it is projected to increase to $104 million with a floor of $76.9 million, and in 2027-28, it will again go up to $113.5 million with a floor of $83.9 million.

The NHL's current salary cap is $88 million with a floor of $65 million.

 

Kaprizov's next contract will make all other Wild contracts look affordable.

Edited 4 hours ago by Imyourhuckleberry

[RedLake]

I can't see why Kaprizov would sign a contract here. Highest state income tax in the nation. I hope he does sign, but if I was Kaprizov I'd be looking to Flordia or California 

[SkolWild73]

I personally think Trenin has done what he is getting paid to do as a bottom 6 forward.  He wasn’t brought here to score a ton of points.  He is currently  +7.  Last year he was a +15.  When he is on the ice, other teams are not scoring.  He isn’t going to win games for us with his offense but as a 3rd or 4th player he isn’t losing games for us either.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

2 minutes ago, RedLake said:

I can't see why Kaprizov would sign a contract here. Highest state income tax in the nation. I hope he does sign, but if I was Kaprizov I'd be looking to Flordia or California 

MN does have fairly high state tax, but it is not top 5 in the nation, nor among NHL teams. California has the highest state tax rate, by far.

California also has only 1 competitive NHL team. LA Kings may have some things going well for them, but hard to say how likely they are to become true contenders.

[SkolWild73]

8 minutes ago, RedLake said:

I can't see why Kaprizov would sign a contract here. Highest state income tax in the nation. I hope he does sign, but if I was Kaprizov I'd be looking to Flordia or California 

Pretty sure California is number one for highest state income tax.  Think we are 6th or something like that.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

11 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

Pretty sure California is number one for highest state income tax.

Exactly. And while state income tax rate can have a considerable impact, there are many other factors. Sales Tax rates also vary a lot, and some states apply sales tax to groceries and clothes. MN has most clothing not taxable(one of just 11 states to exclude taxes from clothing), although accessories can be. MN also does not tax groceries while 11 states do.

On property tax, the MN average is a little above the middle of the pack, but also has relatively low median property costs. For example, a home in Florida might have a lower tax rate, but cost 3-4 times as much, so the property tax could still be double what you might pay in MN for a similar home.

California, New Jersey, and New York are all higher cost than MN. Better way to say it might be less money in a bank account after taxes in CA, NJ, or NY.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Washington Capitals prospect pool rated 9th by The Athletic, so Wild make it at least into their top 8.

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The Capitals have remodeled their pool quickly. After adding Ryan Leonard and Andrew Cristall in 2023, they made five picks in the first three rounds in 2024, taking Terik Parascak and Cole Hutson at the top and potentially finding two future NHL players in the third round in the towering Eriks Mateiko and Ilya Protas. Now, their pool looks strong for the first time in a long time — with quality at the top and, finally, depth into the double digits.

[RedLake]

Minnesota took over being the highest income taxed nation last fall.  They really need to split this state in two.

[SkolWild73]

29 minutes ago, RedLake said:

Minnesota took over being the highest income taxed nation last fall.  They really need to split this state in two.

Not sure where you are getting your info that we are the highest taxed state, but even if we are, not sure how much athletes care about them when California, New York and New Jersey are towards the top in tax burden and seem to do just fine signing free agents across all sports

[RazWild]

1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Washington Capitals prospect pool rated 9th by The Athletic, so Wild make it at least into their top 8.

Tbf, Wheeler did say that #6-10 were fairly interchangeable and that the #11 team would be more likely to move up rather than down when asked by commentators.

Given how tight he sees that grouping, he only ranked them the way he did because of preference. So if the Wild finish within the next two spots. Take it with a grain of salt.

Edited 1 hour ago by RazWild

[M_Nels]

1 hour ago, RedLake said:

I can't see why Kaprizov would sign a contract here. Highest state income tax in the nation. I hope he does sign, but if I was Kaprizov I'd be looking to Flordia or California 

I can't believe Canada even has teams and players that sign contracts there. Should just put all of the teams in Texas and FL while we're at it.

[Willy the poor boy]

2 hours ago, RedLake said:

I can't see why Kaprizov would sign a contract here. Highest state income tax in the nation. I hope he does sign, but if I was Kaprizov I'd be looking to Flordia or California 

Yes, politically speaking this state is a disaster. 

[Willy the poor boy]

1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

Washington Capitals prospect pool rated 9th by The Athletic, so Wild make it at least into their top 8.

I'm thinking DJ is a factor in their ratings.

[Willy the poor boy]

52 minutes ago, SkolWild73 said:

Not sure where you are getting your info that we are the highest taxed state, but even if we are, not sure how much athletes care about them when California, New York and New Jersey are towards the top in tax burden and seem to do just fine signing free agents across all sports

The coasts are very attractive to players.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

39 minutes ago, RazWild said:

Tbf, Wheeler did say that #6-10 were fairly interchangeable and that the #11 team would be more likely to move up rather than down when asked by commentators.

Given how tight he sees that grouping, he only ranked them the way he did because of preference. So if the Wild finish within the next two spots. Take it with a grain of salt.

True. Top 11 is a good spot to be. I almost wish they weren't one of the last 8 because I'm anxious to read what he has to say about the individual players. Assuming Wild are not top 3, full writeup should come out sometime next week.

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27 minutes ago, Willy the poor boy said:

The coasts are very attractive to players.

The coasts and higher population areas bring opportunities from sky high endorsement deals that don't occur in flyover country.  You can make millions on local endorsements in NY or LA you can't come close to here.

 

FWIW, my wife and I are getting close to retirement and looking to bail mostly due to taxes.  Minnesota is labeled as roughly 5th in terms of total taxation depending on how you do your figuring, but no question we are top ten.  When I looked at rates I looked at income, property, and sales, and we are top third in the country in all three categories.   

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4 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Ok, we're now admitting that Trenin is horse shit, the honesty is refreshing.

There are still the hold outs that say his cyber metrics show he's effective defensively (don't believe it) but the eye test proves every night that he's got no offensive skills.  Think Delaurias, without the fighting or the checking.  Great!

I have been a fairly big hockey fan going back to Bobby Smith and Jack Carlson but not so big a fan that I know all the players on all the teams.  I do know most of the players that are worth noticing.  I could probably name at least 6-7 player on every team.

When I read we signed Trenin my first thought was "Who?"   I was not expecting much.