Article: The NHL Community On YouTube Needs Your Help

[Phillip Garrett]

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[mnfaninnc]

To me, this is a strange article about stuff I wasn't even aware existed. I don't generally go onto YouTube for NHL content, though, I did use it to try and do some draft research on year (but none of these sites were used). 

I don't really understand why articles now, on this site, need to have imbedded video content of some highlight, or why putting an X quote in the middle of a piece has any significance if it isn't from Russo. 

Fact is, I can barely post an emoji, and really haven't got much of an idea of what each emoji means. So, to tell me about de-monetizing anything just shoots way over my head. I don't particularly like podcasts either, what's wrong with good old fashioned radio? Also, thanks for those who have posted pics for me when I mentioned a reference. Believe it or not, they are usually entertaining (pics or gifs).

But, what Phillip is saying here is a pet peeve of mine: The NHL does very little to help grow the sport. They go down the old fashioned channels while most other sports are passing them by. They don't take criticism well, so I could see them blocking video for people who are critical of them, and that category is like a huge buffet. Why wouldn't you want this exposure? 

It's probably not ever going to be my media outlet of choice, but if it's growing the game in areas where the NHL doesn't reach, maybe the NHL should be listening and encouraging. We don't even know if they are discouraging it since we don't really know who is pulling the copyright claims. 

Now, just for reference, I occasionally tune into YouTube. I've got 5 subscriptions, 1 is the Wild channel, another is the baby Wild. I rarely get to them ever with time constraints. So, I'll just ask: Do you guys out here in HW land actively use YouTube as your media outlet? And if so, what other than The Wild do you count on it for (just general categories are fine)?

[Dean]

I like morning cuppa hockey on you tube. It’s a decent daily rundown , good guests..  However all the media is so Canada biased. I’m tired of every story is about a Canadian team. Mainly Toronto Edmonton. . How does the nhl grow when all they do is talk about teams in another country that I’m guessing most in USA don’t care about.  Frank Serevali said he’s worked in Canadas media and there is a definite anti Americanism in the nhl media and front offices.  . Canadians are insecure about the fact the one thing they are good at is slipping away. . So they have to go out everyday and talk about how great they are until the playoffs prove them wrong. Then rinse and repeat next year.

   So I do watch content from other teams fan bases because you don’t get any real news from national media unless it’s Conner mcdirty crying about something or how Toronto is the greatest ever and no need for playoffs . The NHL good ole boys are a bunch of insecure Canadians . They are not growing the sport. Viewership is down . No one I know cares to hear how great Canadians think they are day after day. The nhl is in a decline . They’ve taken the toughness and emotion out of the game and made it fake wrestling. Where guys in Toronto decide games. Like that’s not going to be a problem with gambling. Hockey is going the way of nba. Just watch LeBron not play defense while the media is telling you you’re watching something special. That’s the new hockey. Manufactured b.s by insecure Canadians. 

[Dango]

You tube doesn't really make sense to me in the way it pays creators based on subs and views likes comments  because a lot of those are kids or maybe foreigners from other countries  that will never purchase the products or services of the advertisers .

[MacGyver]

First thing you have to come to terms with is the NHL has no F's to give when it comes to the fans. They only care about the $. Clicks on You Tube takes clicks away from their NHL.com site. This is also why their games are spread all over the streaming universe. Sold to the highest bidder. They don't care if you get to see them or have to spend $200 a month to see all the games they got theirs up front. 

If there is something the NHL has done recently that is fan friendly I guess I missed it. 

[Citizen Strife]

2024-2025 Numbers Game (48 Games Played)

Record: 28-17-4; (60 pts, 3rd in Central, 5th in Western Conference, 10th in NHL, 4-6 in L10)



Goals For: 2.90 Per Game (19th in NHL)

Goals Against: 2.88 Per Game (T-11th in NHL)

PP: 19.1% (23rd in NHL)

PK: 70.3% (30th in NHL)

 

Gustavsson: 18-10-3, 2.63 GAA (29th in Goalies), .913 SV% (T-19th in Goalies)*

Fleury: 10-5-1, 2.76 GAA (T-40th in Goalies), .904 SV% (T-34th in Goalies)*

Wallstedt: 0-2-0, 4.09 GAA (83rd in Goalies), .843 SV% (86th in Goalies)*

*Goalie Rankings could be skewed due to differences in games played. For instance, when weighed against goalies with 16 or more starts, Gus is ranked 18th in GAA and T-12th in SV%. Fleury is T-25th in GAA and T-24th in SV%

 

Kaprizov: 23G, 28A, 51P (T-23rd in NHL), +20 (T-10th in NHL)

Rossi: 17G, 26A, 43P (T-43th in NHL), +17

Boldy: 18G, 24A, 42P (T-48th in NHL), +4

Zuccarello: 12G, 23A, 35P (T-85th in NHL), +6

Faber: 6G, 15A, 21P (T-224th in NHL), +11

Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

+/-

Highest: Kaprizov (+20/T-10th in NHL), Rossi (+17), Middleton (+15)

Lowest: Khusnutdinov (-6), Lauko (-7), Hartman (-8)

[Fezig]

9 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

2024-2025 Numbers Game (48 Games Played)

Record: 28-17-4; (60 pts, 3rd in Central, 5th in Western Conference, 10th in NHL, 4-6 in L10)



Goals For: 2.90 Per Game (19th in NHL)

Goals Against: 2.88 Per Game (T-11th in NHL)

PP: 19.1% (23rd in NHL)

PK: 70.3% (30th in NHL)

 

Gustavsson: 18-10-3, 2.63 GAA (29th in Goalies), .913 SV% (T-19th in Goalies)*

Fleury: 10-5-1, 2.76 GAA (T-40th in Goalies), .904 SV% (T-34th in Goalies)*

Wallstedt: 0-2-0, 4.09 GAA (83rd in Goalies), .843 SV% (86th in Goalies)*

*Goalie Rankings could be skewed due to differences in games played. For instance, when weighed against goalies with 16 or more starts, Gus is ranked 18th in GAA and T-12th in SV%. Fleury is T-25th in GAA and T-24th in SV%

 

Kaprizov: 23G, 28A, 51P (T-23rd in NHL), +20 (T-10th in NHL)

Rossi: 17G, 26A, 43P (T-43th in NHL), +17

Boldy: 18G, 24A, 42P (T-48th in NHL), +4

Zuccarello: 12G, 23A, 35P (T-85th in NHL), +6

Faber: 6G, 15A, 21P (T-224th in NHL), +11

Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

+/-

Highest: Kaprizov (+20/T-10th in NHL), Rossi (+17), Middleton (+15)

Lowest: Khusnutdinov (-6), Lauko (-7), Hartman (-8)

Thanks for the update.

Going into this season I thought .500 at best, similar to last season. Just wait it out until next year when the purse strings loosen up. I gotta say more than pleasantly surprised by the start of the season and KK leading MVP discussion.

The last few weeks have been a drag. So the question is, to quote the oft quoatable Denny Green: "They are who they thought they are" in regard to the Wild coming back to the mean; or is this a mid-season slump and what looked great at the beginning will return in February.

[Pewterschmidt]

21 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

To me, this is a strange article about stuff I wasn't even aware existed. I don't generally go onto YouTube for NHL content, though, I did use it to try and do some draft research on year (but none of these sites were used). 

I don't really understand why articles now, on this site, need to have imbedded video content of some highlight, or why putting an X quote in the middle of a piece has any significance if it isn't from Russo. 

Fact is, I can barely post an emoji, and really haven't got much of an idea of what each emoji means. So, to tell me about de-monetizing anything just shoots way over my head. I don't particularly like podcasts either, what's wrong with good old fashioned radio? Also, thanks for those who have posted pics for me when I mentioned a reference. Believe it or not, they are usually entertaining (pics or gifs).

But, what Phillip is saying here is a pet peeve of mine: The NHL does very little to help grow the sport. They go down the old fashioned channels while most other sports are passing them by. They don't take criticism well, so I could see them blocking video for people who are critical of them, and that category is like a huge buffet. Why wouldn't you want this exposure? 

It's probably not ever going to be my media outlet of choice, but if it's growing the game in areas where the NHL doesn't reach, maybe the NHL should be listening and encouraging. We don't even know if they are discouraging it since we don't really know who is pulling the copyright claims. 

Now, just for reference, I occasionally tune into YouTube. I've got 5 subscriptions, 1 is the Wild channel, another is the baby Wild. I rarely get to them ever with time constraints. So, I'll just ask: Do you guys out here in HW land actively use YouTube as your media outlet? And if so, what other than The Wild do you count on it for (just general categories are fine)?

I’m an active you tube user and with tik tok teetering I’m moving even more to You Tube

 subject subscriptions include:

stock market (cnbc, the compound, Bloomberg, etc)

Hockey (worst seats in house, wild on 7th, wilderness talk, John Scott pod, mn pondcast)

[Pewterschmidt]

2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

PK: 70.3% (30th in NHL)

Memo to Frank Pastrami:

 

[Pewterschmidt]

2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

Ek: 8G, 13A, 21P (T-224th), +8

You didn’t hear it from me but this team needs more offense from Ekzy

i know he does lots of other things but 8 is not great

#triple post

Edited January 26 by Pewterschmidt

[mnfaninnc]

2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Not to make this political in any way, but this is exactly how I saw DOGE working. Which one is Musk and which one is Ramaswamy? 

My expectation is a lot of people have no idea what they're doing there.

[mnfaninnc]

2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

You didn’t hear it from me but this team needs more offense from Ekzy

Eky's snipe last night sounded like he heard P-Shooter loud and clear!

[Mateo3xm]

You would think the NHL would want the opposite to happen. These channels often bring more ppl to the game. However, knowing who Bettman is, I’m sure he thinks channels like this take revenue away for some reason. 

[hydguy75]

23 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

You would think the NHL would want the opposite to happen. These channels often bring more ppl to the game. However, knowing who Bettman is, I’m sure he thinks channels like this take revenue away for some reason. 

When you're an insecure and unfriendly person in general, possess zero leadership skills except micromanager, have no plan and no vision, this strong arm of the NHL is the result.  

[Phather12]

2 hours ago, hydguy75 said:

When you're an insecure and unfriendly person in general, possess zero leadership skills except micromanager, have no plan and no vision, this strong arm of the NHL is the result.  

Spot on. 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

On 1/26/2025 at 7:06 AM, MacGyver said:

If there is something the NHL has done recently that is fan friendly I guess I missed it. 

NHL.com stats are quite good and the NHL highlight packages of games are as well. I tend to believe the more people talking about the sport, the better off they might be, so I was surprised by this article as I was not aware of the issue.

[MacGyver]

1 minute ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

NHL.com stats are quite good and the NHL highlight packages of games are as well. I tend to believe the more people talking about the sport, the better off they might be, so I was surprised by this article as I was not aware of the issue.

Not arguing that at all that's my go to site for any NHL news or stats. However they can be quite biased in their reporting. They like their Eastern conference teams. The Wild barely get any love on that site even when they are playing better than most in the league. I can totally see the NHL putting their thumb on the scale on the You Tubers to drive more people to their site. I will continue to believe the NHL does not really give a rats behind about the average fan. 

[mnfaninnc]

22 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

Not arguing that at all that's my go to site for any NHL news or stats. However they can be quite biased in their reporting. They like their Eastern conference teams. The Wild barely get any love on that site even when they are playing better than most in the league.

I find East Coast bias in almost all of the national media outlets, not just for hockey either. NHL news or stats are just that, news and stats driven. But if you want to hear what people are saying like with trade speculation, there is zip. And it probably has to be that way. 

Now that we're in the beginnings of TDL season, where the Canes and Avs have put the first shot over the bow, there needs to be a little more in trade speculation, something the NHL site doesn't really do. NHL radio does a bit more of it, but their shows are kind of stale sometimes, like shows back to back have the same basic format instead of building on each other. It's like seeing your hand of cards, putting the cards down, and picking up the hand to see it for the 1st time again. 

I guess that's what makes HW a better spot to sit down and have a cup of coffee. 

[M_Nels]

40 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

NHL.com stats are quite good and the NHL highlight packages of games are as well. I tend to believe the more people talking about the sport, the better off they might be, so I was surprised by this article as I was not aware of the issue.

This is where I go, can't exactly watch YouTube for an hour while I'm at work and I don't watch much if any YouTube at home.

NHL.com gives me all the info & stats I need and the condensed 10min highlights and goals/saves of the week are good.

Like you though, I was not aware of it either.

Edited January 27 by M_Nels

[Imyourhuckleberry]

On 1/26/2025 at 7:38 AM, Fezig said:

The last few weeks have been a drag. So the question is, to quote the oft quoatable Denny Green: "They are who they thought they are" in regard to the Wild coming back to the mean; or is this a mid-season slump and what looked great at the beginning will return in February.

I think it's somewhere in the middle. Without Kaprizov and Spurgeon, the Wild are not a playoff team. It can take a few games getting back into it before guys are fully trusting their bodies and playing like themselves.

On the flip side, the rest of the team may have had a let down knowing that these important pieces had returned and unconsciously lost a little focus. The defense and goaltending have had their share of issues lately, but could come back rejuvenated after the break.

I don't think the Wild are as good as the team that was winning well over 70% of standings points early in the season, but they might be one that can win 64-67% of standings points for a 105-110 point pace when fully healthy, especially if they add another skilled F with speed at the trade deadline--Nyquist from Nashville could be a low cost move.

[M_Nels]

Just now, Imyourhuckleberry said:

On the flip side, the rest of the team may have had a let down knowing that these important pieces had returned and unconsciously lost a little focus. The defense and goaltending have had their share of issues lately, but could come back rejuvenated after the break.

This is what I've noticed as well. "Oh hey Kap is back he'll take over!". 

Zucc and Kap need to be separated again I'm sorry, wayyy to much forcing of the puck and (attempted) cutesy east/west plays leading to turnovers and 1 and dones in the o-zone. I wouldn't even mind taking Zucc off PP1 for a game, his blind cross seam passes aren't fooling anyone anymore.

[MrCheatachu]

23 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

You didn’t hear it from me but this team needs more offense from Ekzy

i know he does lots of other things but 8 is not great

#triple post

But P-Funk, 44% of Ek's ice time is spent skating with MoJo.  If we're going to say that Boldy (who's skated with MoJo 25.2% of the time) is getting dragged down by his linemates, what say you of Ekker?

[MacGyver]

59 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

I find East Coast bias in almost all of the national media outlets, not just for hockey either. NHL news or stats are just that, news and stats driven. But if you want to hear what people are saying like with trade speculation, there is zip. And it probably has to be that way. 

Agree with what you are saying. NHL.com is pretty vanilla and they focus on eastern teams and no opinion or speculation. Sirius radio has  very good NHL talk programming. I listen to it all the time in my truck and will stream it on my Bluetooth speaker at home until the wife gets annoyed! 😁 They talk about all the teams, review all the games from the night before and preview all the upcoming games. They don't shy away from trade speculation or rumors.  They have good guests that come on. The four nations tournament is taking a lot of oxygen out of the room lately though. 

NHL tv is pretty weak in my opinion as well. Jackie Redmond is worth watching. 🍻

[Pewterschmidt]

1 hour ago, MrCheatachu said:

But P-Funk, 44% of Ek's ice time is spent skating with MoJo.  If we're going to say that Boldy (who's skated with MoJo 25.2% of the time) is getting dragged down by his linemates, what say you of Ekker?

I agree that Nojo is an anchor, but if Ek is a top tier NHL'r he needs to drive a line thru offense.  This season he's mainly a punching bag.  I'm an Ek fan, and do not want to trade him but he needs to create more offense.  Otherwise put him with Foligno and T-bag and make him a shut down specialist.

[MrCheatachu]

15 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

I agree that Nojo is an anchor, but if Ek is a top tier NHL'r he needs to drive a line thru offense.  This season he's mainly a punching bag.  I'm an Ek fan, and do not want to trade him but he needs to create more offense.  Otherwise put him with Foligno and T-bag and make him a shut down specialist.

Ekker tried to play in the playoffs with a broken leg.  He's also missed 13 games this season with his facial injury and significant time with a 'lower body' injury during OT of that vancouver game where there was no-contact.

My money is Ekker is currently playing with one of his legs being held together with popsicle sticks and bubblegum.   Unfortunately, Ekker is most effective when he is applying unrelenting pressure.  Until he heals up, I doubt we're going to see the shutdown specialist we're used to seeing. 

I think Ek's a great player, but i'm guessing we're seeing a limited version of the guy right now because he's playing hurt.  His unrelenting pressure with his dopey-punchable face™ hasn't been available since his return from IR.