Article: Revenge Wasn't A Good Look For the Wild

[OldDutchChip]

37 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

Everyone wanted to cast off Rossi, now everyone is piling on Ohgren, and next year, when Yurov has his growing pains, everyone will want to trade him. Even All-World players take some lumps, that's part of having a strong prospect pool. 

It's not about Rossi, Ohgren, Yurov, Zeev, Wally, Height or anyone else except for Kaprizov. That's it. Ohgren is too raw at this point to predict what he is, but he likely will not be in top 6 next year. I think Billy will update the top 6 this year and Yurov will claim a spot next year. That leaves Ohgren in the bottom half, which isn't a bad thing for his game (just my thought) .... i think he has been over hyped a bit but maybe he can grow into another version of Coyle, which isn't the worse thing. 

[Protec]

Coyle never should have been traded. Another top level Fentonism. Ogie is a different kind of player and also a winger. 

He's better than NoJo all season. Cross-eyed Bill and Hynes ought to see that now but I wonder. Ogie can't compete in the neck-beard department. He's just tougher, more engaged, faster, younger, etc. Send him back to the minors when NoJo recovers from that nothingburger elbow though, I'll bet. 

[IllicitFive]

11 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

If I were Kaprizov, this is what I would notice. Yes, it would be nice to get through to round 2 in the playoffs, but seeing the improvement of the young guys would get me excited about what they could be. This is why I think he will not be looking so much at the past as he will be looking to see into the future. My friend you are looking at it through your own eyes and not thinking like Kap. Of course no one knows what he is thinking but given that this will be his likely last chance to dictate the future (for his prime years), do you think he is going to pick a mentorship? To onboard and show other baby wild how things are done? To go through yet more growing pains? Why? Yikes, that's not for him!  NOT A CHANCE.

He is a winner. No way he is fine with again taking a step back to reload. Nope. This retreat will mean failure as a unit. It will not help with certainty, it will only add frustration and hazy up that direction. With uncertainty and Zuccy gone, he will go with familiarity. And that means East Coast. 

If Billy wants to keep his job past next year, he needs to get out of round 1 this year and have a blue print as to how he'll win for Kap. There is no more next year, it must be this year. No more excuses about Cap and Roster flexibility - it does NOT matter now. Kap does not care about that. That i believe. 

Haha so nobody knows what he is thinking but I will tell you exactly what he is thinking. Calm down chicken little, we don't know if the sky is falling or not. What if he sees the progress, because it is there, they are still number 2 in a tough division with all these injuries and 15 mil less cap space to start. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he had an Ovi mentality and stuck with one team his whole career, even through hard times or with "a playoff contender" which the wild are.  It might be a bit naïve to think he doesn't take all of those constraints into account.

"He is a winner. No way he is fine with again taking a step back to reload. Nope. This retreat will mean failure as a unit. It will not help with certainty" Weren't you asking for them to dump a number of players to reload? Players, especially top 6 are too small, not tough enough, not enough grit. Which is it? We need to reload and bring in new guys or if we reload he will leave?  By the youth growing into roles and taking steps forward how is that a step back and a reload? At the end of the year losing NoJo and Merril might be addition by subtraction. Zucc is also 37, the cliff is coming as it does for everyone, he won't be hanging on here forever with Kap. He has 1 more year then probably gone as he will be approaching 39. Hartman 2 more years, great timing to hopefully have someone step in since his scoring has disappeared. Spurge also 2 years and with injury history lately we will see.  Then the next year Foligno, JG, and Trenin and Brodin. Seems like a great built in removal of old players as youth movement starts, especially as guys like Brodin and Spurge with major cap hits start aging out and either get less money or are gone. Prospects developing, more cap space while they are on rookie deals so you can play in FA, seems like a wonderful situation to me.

"If Billy wants to keep his job past next year, he needs to get out of round 1 this year and have a blue print as to how he'll win for Kap." You really think his job is at risk, just as the team is coming out of cap penalties? He helped orchestrate 2 of the best seasons points wise in team history, this year, even with cap penalties and the injury plague (its past bug stage) on pace for 4th best. Also took a depleted farm system that now has some exciting prospects like Yurov and Zeev as examples. Not to mention some team friendly contracts that he has signed players to, not that you are a fan of Boldy or Ek and wouldn't mind them traded. Got Faber plus a 1st round pick for Fiala. Dang, I am curious who you would want, that would be available, who would do more. Has he won a cup? No, but the 4 teams who have won in the last 5 years were not dealing with anywhere near the issues the Wild have been. Imagine another 11 mil player and a 4 mil player or two more like Ek and Boldy, the team would look really different. 

[OldDutchChip]

53 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

Haha so nobody knows what he is thinking but I will tell you exactly what he is thinking. Calm down chicken little, we don't know if the sky is falling or not. What if he sees the progress, because it is there, they are still number 2 in a tough division with all these injuries and 15 mil less cap space to start. Wouldn't it be wonderful if he had an Ovi mentality and stuck with one team his whole career, even through hard times or with "a playoff contender" which the wild are.  It might be a bit naïve to think he doesn't take all of those constraints into account.

"He is a winner. No way he is fine with again taking a step back to reload. Nope. This retreat will mean failure as a unit. It will not help with certainty" Weren't you asking for them to dump a number of players to reload? Players, especially top 6 are too small, not tough enough, not enough grit. Which is it? We need to reload and bring in new guys or if we reload he will leave?  By the youth growing into roles and taking steps forward how is that a step back and a reload? At the end of the year losing NoJo and Merril might be addition by subtraction. Zucc is also 37, the cliff is coming as it does for everyone, he won't be hanging on here forever with Kap. He has 1 more year then probably gone as he will be approaching 39. Hartman 2 more years, great timing to hopefully have someone step in since his scoring has disappeared. Spurge also 2 years and with injury history lately we will see.  Then the next year Foligno, JG, and Trenin and Brodin. Seems like a great built in removal of old players as youth movement starts, especially as guys like Brodin and Spurge with major cap hits start aging out and either get less money or are gone. Prospects developing, more cap space while they are on rookie deals so you can play in FA, seems like a wonderful situation to me.

"If Billy wants to keep his job past next year, he needs to get out of round 1 this year and have a blue print as to how he'll win for Kap." You really think his job is at risk, just as the team is coming out of cap penalties? He helped orchestrate 2 of the best seasons points wise in team history, this year, even with cap penalties and the injury plague (its past bug stage) on pace for 4th best. Also took a depleted farm system that now has some exciting prospects like Yurov and Zeev as examples. Not to mention some team friendly contracts that he has signed players to, not that you are a fan of Boldy or Ek and wouldn't mind them traded. Got Faber plus a 1st round pick for Fiala. Dang, I am curious who you would want, that would be available, who would do more. Has he won a cup? No, but the 4 teams who have won in the last 5 years were not dealing with anywhere near the issues the Wild have been. Imagine another 11 mil player and a 4 mil player or two more like Ek and Boldy, the team would look really different. 

What if he sees the progress....ah yeah the neverending Minnesota progress. I am sure he will see it. 

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he had an Ovi mentality and stuck with one team his whole career Wouldn't it be wonderful if the team had someone to protect him and showed any sort of winning during his first 5 season?

Weren't you asking for them to dump a number of players to reload Yeap, if you weren't picking out Keywords from my posts you may have more accurate understood what i meant. 

You really think his job is at risk, just as the team is coming out of cap penalties He and Leo both know that at the core its not the penalties, it's the players that were weighing them down. AGAIN I'll repeat if you can read and understand - they did not cut player equivalent of Kaprizov (Parise) and Faber (Suter), they cut off Ben Jones and Jon Merill. So if they kept both - there would be ZERO impact. Hence the Buy Out allowed them to use it as an excuse. But whatever, i'll let it be. Fine cap crunch, cause miraculously this money would transform Parise and Suter into elite L1 winger and 1st shut down D. Yeap ok. But back to Billy - his number one priority is not to develop Ohgren and next batch of B/C prospects. His number one priority and requirement is to keep Kaprizov here. If he fails - he goes. 

Also took a depleted farm system that now has some exciting prospects like Yurov and Zeev as examples. Not to mention some team friendly contracts that he has signed players to, not that you are a fan of Boldy or Ek and wouldn't mind them traded. Got Faber plus a 1st round pick for Fiala. Dang, I am curious who you would want, that would be available, who would do more. Has he won a cup? No, but the 4 teams who have won in the last 5 years were not dealing with anywhere near the issues the Wild have been. Imagine another 11 mil player and a 4 mil player or two more like Ek and Boldy, the team would look really different.  

This is brilliant! Are you the Wild PR? This idiocy has been a constant with every GM and every year for this team. Our depleted farm - but look now we have Zach Philips (not let's remove Zach and add Ohgren, there ....there is likely a draft for this nonesense that PR can use) He got Faber? Oh my yes that one where he knew exactly what he was doing and not just taking first offer and lucked out? Yeah he hasn't won a cup, he hasn't won a ROUND in the playoffs!  Yeah celebrate the success- shit you have a low bar. Another 11 mil player and a 4? where are you getting that? Just a gift? oooooh i get it - you think Parise is equivalent of an 11 mil superstar wing! I got it. Nothing more - keep believing buddy!

Edited 17 hours ago by OldDutchChip

[IllicitFive]

4 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Also took a depleted farm system that now has some exciting prospects like Yurov and Zeev as examples. Not to mention some team friendly contracts that he has signed players to, not that you are a fan of Boldy or Ek and wouldn't mind them traded. Got Faber plus a 1st round pick for Fiala. Dang, I am curious who you would want, that would be available, who would do more. Has he won a cup? No, but the 4 teams who have won in the last 5 years were not dealing with anywhere near the issues the Wild have been. Imagine another 11 mil player and a 4 mil player or two more like Ek and Boldy, the team would look really different.  

This is brilliant! Are you the Wild PR? This idiocy has been a constant with every GM and every year for this team. Our depleted farm - but look now we have Zach Philips (not let's remove Zach and add Ohgren, there ....there is likely a draft for this nonesense that PR can use) He got Faber? Oh my yes that one where he knew exactly what he was doing and not just taking first offer and lucked out? Yeah he hasn't won a cup, he hasn't won a ROUND in the playoffs!  Yeah celebrate the success- shit you have a low bar. Another 11 mil player and a 4? where are you getting that? Just a gift? oooooh i get it - you think Parise is equivalent of an 11 mil superstar wing! I got it. Nothing more - keep believing buddy!

"Wouldn't it be wonderful if the team had someone to protect him and showed any sort of winning during his first 5 season?" You mean 3 of the best 5 years in the history of the team in terms of winning? Like that? Showing progress? Or if not a top 8 team in playoffs, or I guess top 4 since only west. 

"Yeap, if you weren't picking out Keywords from my posts you may have more accurate understood what i meant." Maybe you should actually be more clear. "One of the three - Boldy, Ek or Rossi i think has to go."  So just one of the centers we have been craving or the number 2 scorer on the team. "It's not about goals and points. a team that has zero spine in its top 6"  Ringing endorsement to keep those guys. "Neither Ek, Boldy or Rossi can bring it. One of them will be traded. Deal with it."  And again. " The fact that outside of our bottom 6, we have NO ONE to have the balls to stand up when times comes." So just the bottom 6 should stay? "Time will tell who remains in our top 6. Besides Zuccy and Kap - the rest are no guarantees."  That is just a fun sample, again where is your argument they should be around? Seems pretty clear to me, Zucc and Kap only who belong, one of which is 37....

I get they didn't cut Faber or Kap, Parise and Suter when they were cut were not those two. Never said they were. Those two needed to be removed, I am saying that 15 mil gives you potential to get a top tier player or 2. That is how money and cap space works. More money, more players, potentially higher skilled players with a lot of money. As far as development goes, you do know its not a light switch right? Its a progression and everyone has their own timetables. What do you think they do in Iowa? That is EXACTLY what they have been doing, developing prospects. See examples like Rossi. Most aren't like Faber or Kap who can step right in. So don't develop any players, just cut them all because that will make the team stronger and Kap will love it. That's what makes a team strong, that's how Avs, Panthers, and Lightning all did it. No home grown talent. 

" He got Faber? Oh my yes that one where he knew exactly what he was doing and not just taking first offer and lucked out?" At least you make it very VERY clear that bad things equals Billy's fault, good thing, nothing but luck. As far as not getting out of the first round goes, you are right, they haven't. Its almost like having to rebuild a team and restock young guys takes time. But that is Billy's fault, he was handed a Ferrari and stripped it down to be a Prius. I will keep believing, that's what being a fan is about. You might be happier trading in the green and wheat and bandwagon hopping to the Panthers and Jets until another team pops up, then jump there. Your video game trades and signing sound easy but its weird that not every team just does that if so easy. Almost like nobody is going to do the Wild any favors because ODC said it should be done. But since you seem to have it all figured out I am looking forward to your time as GM when Billy gets fired. I am sure you will be an easy choice and do a bang up job.

[OldDutchChip]

11 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

"Wouldn't it be wonderful if the team had someone to protect him and showed any sort of winning during his first 5 season?" You mean 3 of the best 5 years in the history of the team in terms of winning? Like that? Showing progress? Or if not a top 8 team in playoffs, or I guess top 4 since only west. 

"Yeap, if you weren't picking out Keywords from my posts you may have more accurate understood what i meant." Maybe you should actually be more clear. "One of the three - Boldy, Ek or Rossi i think has to go."  So just one of the centers we have been craving or the number 2 scorer on the team. "It's not about goals and points. a team that has zero spine in its top 6"  Ringing endorsement to keep those guys. "Neither Ek, Boldy or Rossi can bring it. One of them will be traded. Deal with it."  And again. " The fact that outside of our bottom 6, we have NO ONE to have the balls to stand up when times comes." So just the bottom 6 should stay? "Time will tell who remains in our top 6. Besides Zuccy and Kap - the rest are no guarantees."  That is just a fun sample, again where is your argument they should be around? Seems pretty clear to me, Zucc and Kap only who belong, one of which is 37....

I get they didn't cut Faber or Kap, Parise and Suter when they were cut were not those two. Never said they were. Those two needed to be removed, I am saying that 15 mil gives you potential to get a top tier player or 2. That is how money and cap space works. More money, more players, potentially higher skilled players with a lot of money. As far as development goes, you do know its not a light switch right? Its a progression and everyone has their own timetables. What do you think they do in Iowa? That is EXACTLY what they have been doing, developing prospects. See examples like Rossi. Most aren't like Faber or Kap who can step right in. So don't develop any players, just cut them all because that will make the team stronger and Kap will love it. That's what makes a team strong, that's how Avs, Panthers, and Lightning all did it. No home grown talent. 

" He got Faber? Oh my yes that one where he knew exactly what he was doing and not just taking first offer and lucked out?" At least you make it very VERY clear that bad things equals Billy's fault, good thing, nothing but luck. As far as not getting out of the first round goes, you are right, they haven't. Its almost like having to rebuild a team and restock young guys takes time. But that is Billy's fault, he was handed a Ferrari and stripped it down to be a Prius. I will keep believing, that's what being a fan is about. You might be happier trading in the green and wheat and bandwagon hopping to the Panthers and Jets until another team pops up, then jump there. Your video game trades and signing sound easy but its weird that not every team just does that if so easy. Almost like nobody is going to do the Wild any favors because ODC said it should be done. But since you seem to have it all figured out I am looking forward to your time as GM when Billy gets fired. I am sure you will be an easy choice and do a bang up job.

You mean 3 of the best 5 years in the history of the team in terms of winning - some people judge success by ACTUAL winning when it matters. But you are different. Good for you. 

One of the three - Boldy, Ek or Rossi i think has to go."  So just one of the centers we have been craving or the number 2 scorer on the team yeap one of the three. we need to upgrade our top 6 and Zuccy ain't going anywhere. Neither is concussed MJ. So who is left? 

It's not about goals and points. a team that has zero spine in its top 6"  Ringing endorsement to keep those guys riiight one of them needs to be used to bring in a player who has the balls to stand up for his linemates

Time will tell who remains in our top 6. Besides Zuccy and Kap - the rest are no guarantees."  That is just a fun sample, again where is your argument they should be around? Seems pretty clear to me, Zucc and Kap only who belong, one of which is 37. What is your issue with this? You realize Zuccy stays for Kap. The rest of Top 6 are NOT untouchable. 

I am saying that 15 mil gives you potential to get a top tier player or 2. but that is the point - you do not have 15 mil! you have either Parise and Suter or NOTHING. that's it. we live in a real world!

I lost you on that last paragraph, but i think you understand your faults! Cheer up. 

[M_Nels]

15 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

If Billy wants to keep his job past next year, he needs to get out of round 1 this year and have a blue print as to how he'll win for Kap.

I'm of a pretty firm belief that if Hynes (or anyone other than Dean was coaching) the Wild would've beaten the Blues & Stars to advance to the 2nd round+ those years. Dean was so rigid in his lineups and his gameplan of gooning it up (sound familiar?) against the Stars backfired mightily. 

[OldDutchChip]

17 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

I'm of a pretty firm belief that if Hynes (or anyone other than Dean was coaching) the Wild would've beaten the Blues & Stars to advance to the 2nd round+ those years. Dean was so rigid in his lineups and his gameplan of gooning it up (sound familiar?) against the Stars backfired mightily. 

i never said to goon it up

[FredJohnson]

22 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

Ohgren is not ready.

Looks good (not great…yet) so far. Another loss in the comments for ODD.

[OldDutchChip]

8 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

Looks good (not great…yet) so far. Another loss in the comments for ODD.

[Willy the poor boy]

21 hours ago, Dean said:

IMO the Edmonton game was the game for the wild to send a message to the league. Someone should have taken a suspension to take out the Canadian golden boy mcdirty . Someone should have folded his knees . Hartman or moose should have destroyed Conner and Leon. The goal in that game should have been to hurt one or both of them. Obviously the league isn’t going to protect krill or any other wild player so the league needs to know your willing to get justice yourself on the top dogs. The ones who sell tickets. Who cares if you lose a game or someone gets suspended. It’ll make the rest of the leauge think twice if they know your willing to go after there money makers . 
     What happened in Nashville is a joke. No one got hurt no one got the message. Instead you had a few pillow fights for nothing. Moose talks a big game about the code. The code should have meant something in the Edmonton game but where was moose ? Or suter in Dallas cross checking kappy, Winnipeg cross checking kappy etc. He talks about code yet only uses it on 4 th line guys who  might not be in the nhl next week. His leadership is embarrassing.

     Mcdirty should be on long term IR because the wild sent a message to quit messing with our guys.  

Correct and you don't go after the goons, you go after the skaters who they are trying to protect. IOW tit for tat. McDavid finally got suspended for 3 games for a cross check to the face after he was interfering with that player. I'd like to see someone like Foligno say screw it and drop his azz or Draisitl's(sp) sometime.

[FredJohnson]

16 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

Dunning-Kruger is a b*tch for ya, huh?

[Mateo3xm]

On 1/19/2025 at 7:10 PM, mnhockeyfan03 said:

I think Rossi for sure has to go.  Look at how he plays against the playoff teams in the west.  He is non existent out there and gets manhandled and it will only get worse in the playoffs.  He plays great against the east because they don’t check or against the bad west teams because they are terrible.  He is not what we need on this team.  We also don’t need Zuccarello, he is way too much of a passenger.  I could also be on board trading Boldy as well for the right piece.  He is to inconsistent and doesn’t play a big game even though he is a big body.  Also Spurgeon has to go eventually (probably this summer).  Watch jiricek how he clears out the front of the net.  We have no other dmen that can do that besides Middleton.  All the good west teams have big trees for dmen and they clear everyone out from the front of the net.  Our small dmen get pushed around.  We have a lot of holes on this team and our top 6 is not near good enough.  On a Stanley cup team Erickson ek would play 3rd line center.  We need 2 legit top 6 centers not on the roster and a big power RH forward for the top 6.   

While I agree we need to get bigger, your focus on Rossi is hilarious and hair brained. He’s one of the most consistent players on the team and yet “he has to go”. The need for size is mostly needed on defense.

plenty of small players in the league are very successful such as Marchessault, Marchand, Point, Caufield etc.

Ideally our centers would be 6’2 or bigger but that’s a luxury we don’t have right now. Yurov is coming soon and he’s 6’1. 

the fact you can’t get it out of your head that we need to trade Rossi despite his success shows everyone you’re not to be taken seriously.

[Mateo3xm]

On 1/19/2025 at 8:20 PM, mnhockeyfan03 said:

I just looked it up and Rossi only has 6 points in 15 games against playoff teams in the west.  That’s not getting it done and a reason why we are struggling against those teams.  

This is his 2nd full nhl year?! 
how do you not understand that? He’s vastly exceeded expectations. You figure he should just be a 90pt player his 2nd year? You obviously don’t think about anything you write, you just let the nonsense spew out in the comments section.

[Mateo3xm]

23 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

I didn’t think he looked bad either.  The red flag for me was that he didn’t do anything to get noticed imo.  He’s a man who still approached the game like a boy in terms of his battle.  He’s not a super skilled player who can get by off his talent.  Rossi has high end hockey skills and he’s proven that he’s also got that dog in him.  Ogz shows neither right now (after nearly a full year).  This is a concern for a 1st rounder.  Guerin figured this out before I did and that’s why I predict ogz becomes the first “high end” prospect that we trade away to get a grown ass top 6’r.  

Did you actually watch him in the last game against COL where he had 2 assist? The primary was beautiful. He sure looked like he belonged. Once again I don’t think you are thinking about anything before you actually comment. Ohgren is 20 years old, he’s nearly a point per game in the Ahl at that age and he just had a great game. Ohgren is far more skilled than you obviously realize. Once again you are judging a 20 year old by those ridiculous standards and he’s far ahead of most at age 20.

[Mateo3xm]

18 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

Walz made a point that jirizy “flashed” tonight.  I agree he did.  Ogz hasn’t flashed in a full calendar year.  If Guerin wants to maximize his trade value he deals Ogz while he’s still got  potential

Ohgren just flashed with a 2 assist night in the nhl. He’s 20 years old… how do you not understand that? He’s a point per game in his rookie ahl year… yeah let’s trade him…

how do you not realize how short sighted that is? You did the same thing for Rossi too.

[Mateo3xm]

21 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

what's the point of this reference to MacKinnon? is this again about Rossi? I think you and your fanboys are the only ones that keep bringing Rossi back to discussion. 

or is this saying that you expect Rossi to be the next MacKinnon? He is not and won't be but okay sure go stat hunting. 

believe it or not - we have a player just as good as MacKInnon but his name is not Rossi. Oh my. Yes. not Rossi. 

You’re the only one on here that is that oblivious that you don’t know what he’s talking about. Whether it’s Rossi or Ohgren the point is still the same.

[OldDutchChip]

Just now, Mateo3xm said:

You’re the only one on here that is that oblivious that you don’t know what he’s talking about. Whether it’s Rossi or Ohgren the point is still the same.

only you and Fred know how things work, i get it. one way to see things. you two are something. 

[Mateo3xm]

20 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

I believe Necas is more obtainable than you think. However, he is a tall, speedy player, built like Pettersson and not very physical. He would, however, add a lot to our top 6. 

Svech would be a good get, however, checking his injury history might not be the return we want. I'd love to see him in a Wild uniform, but also understand, he scores a lot of ENGs. In Carolina, they are mainly finesse too, so Svech has little help.

You guys are basically pulling names out of a hat. The canes aren’t getting rid of their Brady T type player they picked at number two. He hasn’t even hit his full potential yet. I could hardly see Necas either but it’s a greater chance than Svech.

[OldDutchChip]

4 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

You guys are basically pulling names out of a hat. The canes aren’t getting rid of their Brady T type player they picked at number two. He hasn’t even hit his full potential yet. I could hardly see Necas either but it’s a greater chance than Svech.

Mateo take a smoke break buddy

 

[mnhockeyfan03]

39 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

While I agree we need to get bigger, your focus on Rossi is hilarious and hair brained. He’s one of the most consistent players on the team and yet “he has to go”. The need for size is mostly needed on defense.

plenty of small players in the league are very successful such as Marchessault, Marchand, Point, Caufield etc.

Ideally our centers would be 6’2 or bigger but that’s a luxury we don’t have right now. Yurov is coming soon and he’s 6’1. 

the fact you can’t get it out of your head that we need to trade Rossi despite his success shows everyone you’re not to be taken seriously.

Sorry bud you are pretty delusional and out of touch.  You will see just wait

[Pewterschmidt]

31 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

You did the same thing for Rossi too.

While I'll admit I was ready to deal Rossi two years ago.  I'm not anymore.  I'd like to see flashes from Ogz (good stick, toughness, speed, etc.) He's Duhaime 2.0 IMO.  What i've learned about the AHL over the years of being a Wild fan is that the AHL and NHL are apples and oranges.  

[FredJohnson]

30 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

only you and Fred know how things work, i get it. one way to see things. you two are something. 

Look into this ODD: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dunning-kruger-effect

[FredJohnson]

38 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

only you and Fred know how things work, i get it. one way to see things. you two are something. 

And judging by the Likes and Thanks on Mateo’s and my posts vs. yours, I can see it’s not just the 2 of that disagree with you. But keep ignoring the site, Mr. Dunning-Kruger.

[OldDutchChip]

5 minutes ago, FredJohnson said:

And judging by the Likes and Thanks on Mateo’s and my posts vs. yours, I can see it’s not just the 2 of that disagree with you. But keep ignoring the site, Mr. Dunning-Kruger.

People can have different opinions

you will understand that when you grow up