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1Brotherbill Verified Member Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago So, if we look at the trade as being our 2025 first round pick this is a really good trade. The other picks would just be trade material or roster fillers in Iowa. Though it is possible that they could turn out to be stars, it is however unlikely. Next year the Wild will have to choose from the following for defenseman. Faber, Brodin, Spurgeon, Middleton, Bogosian, Buium, and Jiricek. As much as I like Chisholm he really hasn't seized the opportunity and run with it. So, I doubt the Wild resign him now. Things like this always look good on paper. We will have to wait and see if it turns out to be what we want. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Was a pretty decent amount to give up but I like it. We need size and skill on defense and that’s what this guy has. As a rookie 19yr old in the Ahl he put up some big numbers. Only thing is he needs to work on his defense a bit and his skating. Luckily for us we have a fantastic skating coach to help him. I think it’s really important for people to give him time to develop. I dont think the Jackets wanted to give him much slack to develop and let him learn from mistakes. He’s 21 now and the start of NHLers prime is early to mid 20s.Defenseman typically take a little longer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Nice article, nice move. I'd been itching for news since about 3pm this afternoon. The return? It had to be done! This was a win that Guerin needed. The time was absolutely right. I'd like to see him get a few practices in, assess him, and send him down to Iowa to work on some stuff. He'll have a friendly face down there in Spacek. My hope now is that Andy Ness dusts off his magic wand and applies it to Jiricek. Jiricek must familiarize himself with our system, with our checks, with our pinches, and with his new teammates. I suspect he will be just fine! On the other side, Waddell got what he could. My suspicion is that he didn't like the prospects being offered and went for draft picks instead. It's not his fault any of this happened, previous management really screwed this kid up. For Jiricek, pinned on his jersey as he heads to Iowa should be the instructions: Play this man 22+ minutes a night, all situations. Personally, I'd like to have him teamed with Lambos on the #1 pairing. He's got some things to work on that only heavy minutes will produce. Call him up whenever Spurgy needs some maintenance time. As for our fanbase, we've got to be patient with him. Just put it in your expectation bucket that there will be mistakes, particularly on the defensive side. Cheer for him anyway. If he fills in for Spurgy, he'll have Brodin as a partner, a very calming influence. Please remember he's just turning 21. I like the future right side of Faber-Jiricek-Spacek. This was a very nice move. Where else are you going to find a player for a 1st rounder in the 20s? That guy is going to take 5 more years to develop and the same with the subsequent picks. More importantly to us, this signals that Shooter has changed course. The flags are blowing and they read "We are now in NOW mode." This is who we're running with. Now we've just got to get them developed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Verified Member Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Well we will see if this works. It's pretty hard to say Guerin won this trade or made a great deal. It's assuming Jiricek turns out to be a stud. If not then all the draft picks given away could come back to haunt. Go Wild!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovehockey Verified Member Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I really like the trade BUT two questions: - like was said before next year we will have Faber, Brodin, Spurgeon, Middleton, Bogosian, Buium, and Jiricek. All of them except Bogosian are top 4 defenders. Who will be 3rd pairing? - if we are in the “win now” mode as we should be, will having 3 very young defenders be a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Toast Verified Member Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 40 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: More importantly to us, this signals that Shooter has changed course This is exactly the kind of move I was hoping for. A player that is absolutely not a quick fix rental but a potential long term piece. Getting a big RSD with skill is huge. We need a couple of more upgrades in key positions but suddenly the Wild are in the conversation for contenders. The timing seems right. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago It fits the timetable perfectly. It fills a need and future proofs the right side in a way they really needed. Big defensemen with scoring punch are big gets. If he gets anywhere close to the hype, it was a big win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforceror Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Now we need a 2nd line upgrade and we're big fellas. We probably have a defenseman for trade. What's next, I'm in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo3xm Verified Member Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, 1Brotherbill said: So, if we look at the trade as being our 2025 first round pick this is a really good trade. The other picks would just be trade material or roster fillers in Iowa. Though it is possible that they could turn out to be stars, it is however unlikely. Next year the Wild will have to choose from the following for defenseman. Faber, Brodin, Spurgeon, Middleton, Bogosian, Buium, and Jiricek. As much as I like Chisholm he really hasn't seized the opportunity and run with it. So, I doubt the Wild resign him now. Things like this always look good on paper. We will have to wait and see if it turns out to be what we want. Chisholm is a 3rd pair dman with size. You can’t really seize the opportunity as a 3rd pair. I think he does a great job. His job is to play good defensively and that’s what he does. I recently saw a stat where he was at the top of the league in terms on not letting the opposing team score while he’s on the ice. obviously that’s going to be skewed because he doesn’t play anywhere near top line minutes but that’s still very impressive. For the responsibility he’s given he more than meets expectations. I’ll try to come back and post the source if I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago If he becomes our Chris pronger for 10 years that would be ok with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Exciting time to be a Wild fan, with Buium and Yurov also on the horizon. Yurov is only at .5 points per game so far this year, but he is still a strong prospect. The Wild need only to bring in a legit top 6 winger and they could have a fighting chance at true contention in the near future. Don't mind losing Hunt or the 1st round pick because the Wild are looking to contend each of the next handful of seasons and a 2025 late 1st round draft pick might not be ready to truly help a team until 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, Lovehockey said: - like was said before next year we will have Faber, Brodin, Spurgeon, Middleton, Bogosian, Buium, and Jiricek. All of them except Bogosian are top 4 defenders. Who will be 3rd pairing? Jiricek & Middleton? Too many good defensemen to play them all 20 minutes is a good problem to have. Unlike last season, every defenseman on the Wild is playing well this year, including Merrill, Chisholm, and Bogosian. The Wild will have Lambos in the AHL getting ready to step in if injury should require him to be elevated in the future, and Spacek. I didn't always follow prospects, but I cannot imagine a time when the Wild were anywhere near this strong defensively and also had star caliber D prospects in the pipeline. Definitely seems like a much better use of a 1st round pick than the late season rental of Martin Hanzal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago hold up Tony A potential (current?) No. 1 center? Hello, Marco Rossi. No. 1 center = Marco Rossi? HAHA High-upside forward prospects? Danila Yurov and Riley Heidt have entered the chat. Really? again we are doing this? Fine Yurov - the next Fedorov, just like Ohgren is the next Matthews/Forsberg - yes the very same that is in AHL now. A bonafide power play quarterback that's nearly NHL-ready? That's what drafting Zeev Buium was for. Yes, maybe patience a bit? Nope - let's celebrate the next big thing that will never fail! A goalie of the future? We all know about Jesper Wallstedt Yeah we do! Drafted 3 years ago! Posting stellar 4.35 GAA and .860 SV% (check out his peer - Askarov - doing a bit better huh?) As soon as the end of the season, the Wild could theoretically ice a starting lineup that includes: Yurov - Rossi - Boldy Buium - Jiricek Wallstedt Rossi will be traded. Wally will still be in AHL at this pace and hopefully Gus will be still our net force. Buium and Jiricek will be battling for third pair spot (Fab/Midds, Broding/Spurge, Chissy/Open? and Yurov may be either in AHL, ST.P, or who knows where. Not sure i am as excited as others. This is not a trade that will pay dividends any time soon. Maybe 2-3 years down the line. Comparing him to great D of the past is all well and good but does about the same as comparing Ohgren to Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Not sure I’m a fan. Also not really bent out of shape about it. I heard someone say they gave up the equivalent of an 8th overall pick. He wouldn’t be drafted that high right now. He can’t skate and is conflicting with an organization at the age of 21. Could turn out well. The upside is there IF he can learn to skate….but how many can’t skate defensive prospects turn into something worth a top 10 pick in value? He’s a right shot, which helps. He’s big and physical, which helps. There’s just a nagging feeling that this guy won’t work out. He seems sure fire to have some sort of reasonable NHL career. But why would a bad team opt to cut bait vs give him a real shot? They know more than anyone, and it’s not exactly a dog fight for minutes (not nearly as much as it will be here). Might have rather have seen them up the prospect(s) offered and gotten someone else that can help now. But, I’m not overly confident in the take. He may flourish here and Columbus could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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