Article: What Could David Jiricek Bring To Minnesota?

[Tony Abbott]

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[Pewterschmidt]

If we send one of our few fwd prospects with nhl size for this d prospect, that tells me Guerin has soured on ogz.  We’ll see. Love the early season speculation!

[Pewterschmidt]

If we land jirzy I’ll guess it’s for future picks as we’ll need the cap space to buy nhl ready free agents over next 2-3 years 

[Tony Abbott]

16 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

If we send one of our few fwd prospects with nhl size for this d prospect, that tells me Guerin has soured on ogz.  We’ll see. Love the early season speculation!

Pronman's U23 rankings had Jiricek 47th and Ohgren 116th at the beginning of the season. I think it'd be less about souring on the player and more having to spend to get a prospect they wouldn't be able to touch in a normal circumstance.

[Tony Abbott]

Still: Good point, it's not like Minnesota has a lot of Ohgrens at the ready, either.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Would they need to trade more than Chisholm, Hunt, and Bankier?

[MNCountryLife]

If BG isn't happy with the D-core:

Spurge, Mid, Brodin, Faber, Zeev and Jiricek   

or Jiricek, Mid, Brodin, Faber, Zeev and Chisholm

I am not a fan of losing Spurge but we would be selling high on him. Columbus would consider a 1 to 1 here a big win.  So much so that the Wild may be able to ask for more.

[OldDutchChip]

I am hoping Bill doesn't get pulled into a bidding war (likely against himself) and gives away one or more of our top assets. He should not include Rossi, Yurov, Zeev and Wally. Not for this kind of a return (these four should be reserved IF we get a proven return on the offensive side). 

And I am not really sure where this guy fits? We have Brodin and Faber, Chissy is just getting started and is cheap, Midds is playing awesome, and i am not complaining about 3rd pair Bogo and no one is trading Spurge. then we have Zeev coming and at least one of our D prospects has to turn into something right? but even if they all are worthless, there is just no room. Brodin/Faber, Zeev/Midds, Chissy(Bogo)/Spurge as early as next year or maybe once Zeev graduates?

This is going to be an interesting game vs sabres. In ideal world - we whoop Sabres and start a long loosing streak for them, which culminates in them selling Tuch. We pick him up and staple him to maybe Bolds. We send Yurov for him (plus filler) we may be able to ice a decent enough lineup w Rossi on L2 (yeah yeah - i still want someone other than Ek to support Kap but.....) 

L1 EK KAP ZUCCY L2 BOLDY TUCH ROSSI

[Citizen Strife]

The Wild have been pretty lucky to not switch out NHL defenseman for what seems like forever.  Jiricek would be nice, but not in a bidding war scenario.  Wings are a future team weakness I would address first.  High end defensemen are a prize, but Jiricek is facing down a couple years behind Spurgeon at minimum.

[Lern2spell]

2 hours ago, MNCountryLife said:

I am not a fan of losing Spurge but we would be selling high on him. Columbus would consider a 1 to 1 here a big win.  So much so that the Wild may be able to ask for more.

...more, like Marchenko?

[mnhockeyfan03]

27 minutes ago, Lern2spell said:

...more, like Marchenko?

If they can find a way to get Marchenko and Jiricek and make it a blockbuster that would be awesome.  We need that RHD forward shot as well.  Rossi, spurgeon, Ohgren for Jiricek and Marchenko.  Then go get Brock Nelson

[mnfaninnc]

2 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

We pick him up and staple him to maybe Bolds. We send Yurov for him (plus filler) we may be able to ice a decent enough lineup w Rossi on L2 (yeah yeah - i still want someone other than Ek to support Kap but.....) 

While I always like the add of Tuch, just exactly where is the cap space to make this happen? Now, we'd have more at the TDL. I think Tuch is still pretty affordable, and he was meant to be here.

[mnfaninnc]

1 hour ago, Lern2spell said:

...more, like Marchenko?

Let's remember Spurgy's clauses, though, a promise at an FO spot when he retires might help.

[mnfaninnc]

I think we need to think more about talent that hasn't popped yet. To me, I believe lower tier and quantity is the answer here. Like Tony pointed out, I think Heidt may be the prospect we lead with. I'd like to include Peart somehow. I also think Bankier might be pretty close to helping them. We've got to thin out the baby Wild D a little.

As for Jiricek, I think if Guerin has him practice with the Wild for a few sessions, and then gives him specific things that need to be worked on, would that help appease him? I don't know that he thinks he's to good for the A, I think he sees what Columbus has on their team and thinks he's too good for their A team. But, most of it, I think, stems from a misunderstanding where CBJ didn't treat him right. 

Of course, CBJ is under new management, but the employee is still sour over the previous management. I would think Guerin could steer him in the right direction. 

[Lern2spell]

2 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

If they can find a way to get Marchenko and Jiricek and make it a blockbuster that would be awesome.

I have been wanting for the Wild to inquire about Marchenko since he burst on scene. He is big bodied power forward type, that I think could fit well opposite Kaprizov, and may go a long way in helping Kap decide to re-sign. I would choose him as an option over Tkachuk in Ottawa based on cost and upside. Someone of the young guys on CBJ may be on the outside looking in when it comes time to re-sign them all, why not at least inquire?

[punch_cut]

I think his agent is the same as flower and the Wild have been pretty good to him. Make a trade to get him working with Ness and set a game plan with player/agent/organization to get him to his potential. Perfect young big D that would go right behind Zeev for D prospects.

[Pewterschmidt]

2 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said:

If they can find a way to get Marchenko and Jiricek and make it a blockbuster that would be awesome.  We need that RHD forward shot as well.  Rossi, spurgeon, Ohgren for Jiricek and Marchenko.  Then go get Brock Nelson

I don’t know who this Marchenko fella is but if he’s a skilled, heavy forward prospect I can get on board sending Rossi, ogz and spurge other way

 jirizy for ogzy feels like an L to me.  Don’t be dumb bill.  Remember the Laine desperation?

[Need4speed99]

If you could fleece them, do it. Otherwise I don't trust billy to make a good move. He's hell bent on getting rid of rossi and is so enamored with big guys he makes bad moves. (Charlie stramel anyone)

I listened to Russo and lapanta on their podcast and Russo says Hynes and guerin are not fans and rossi will be moved.  If they get jiricek for a low 1st or 2nd I guess I don't know but if he's on the outs with cb I doubt he has a chance here. They will stick him in Iowa and play the vets.

This current wild team is just not good enough but a mediocre dman with high offense "potential" doesn't seem like a good move. I think they need to get smart and find a way to get rid of freddy and slo jo.

[Protec]

2 hours ago, Need4speed99 said:

If you could fleece them, do it. Otherwise I don't trust billy to make a good move. He's hell bent on getting rid of rossi and is so enamored with big guys he makes bad moves. (Charlie stramel anyone)

I listened to Russo and lapanta on their podcast and Russo says Hynes and guerin are not fans and rossi will be moved.  If they get jiricek for a low 1st or 2nd I guess I don't know but if he's on the outs with cb I doubt he has a chance here. They will stick him in Iowa and play the vets.

This current wild team is just not good enough but a mediocre dman with high offense "potential" doesn't seem like a good move. I think they need to get smart and find a way to get rid of freddy and slo jo.

I tend to agree. Guerin gets hooked on a guy or not in Rossi's case. Then it's a guessing game for everyone as to what's going on. 

Guerin likes NoJo = Makes no sense.

Guerin likes Laine = Makes no sense. 

Guerin likes Dumba = Kinda made some sense.

Guerin doesn't like Fiala = Kinda made sense.

Guerin doesn't like Rossi = Makes no sense considering they drafted him.

Now with Jiricek, there's an unproven guy with injury history and disgruntle-factor. Like a Laine from a lousy team in CBJ, Guerin wants him. I guess I'm not surprised and certainly not impressed. Jiricek is another Euro player who hasn't stood out at the NHL level but was a top pick. I may not have NHL scouts on my payroll but I'd let Dubas and Yzerman haggle with CBJ management to get Jiricek. 

If Spurgeon had left CBJ off his 10-team list and they'll take his salary, maybe there's good reason to trade, but I'd rather have the smaller, reliable Canadian than hyped-up Euro prospect/project. 

[Fezig]

There is absolutely no reason to not throw in NoJo and Merrill in on the trade. 

[Citizen Strife]

If you had told me Minnesota would be the best defensive team in the league, and have the best statistical goalie at the same time, I would have done fifty spittakes.  Buffalo got ran over by the Gus Bus.

[mnfaninnc]

17 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

I don’t know who this Marchenko fella is but if he’s a skilled, heavy forward prospect I can get on board sending Rossi, ogz and spurge other way

 jirizy for ogzy feels like an L to me.  Don’t be dumb bill.  Remember the Laine desperation?

Listed at 6'3" 197 (I think he's heavier by about 15 lbs.) his first name is Kirill. 

He's a 20 goal scorer who plays a heavier game. He's also an RHS. Assists are not his focus.

[mnfaninnc]

5 hours ago, Fezig said:

There is absolutely no reason to not throw in NoJo and Merrill in on the trade.

There is for Johansson, a full NTC. He'd have to be convinced.

[mnfaninnc]

2 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

If you had told me Minnesota would be the best defensive team in the league, and have the best statistical goalie at the same time, I would have done fifty spittakes.  Buffalo got ran over by the Gus Bus

He stopped everything, but many kudos to the Wild defense with blocked shots, boxing out, and limited rebound chances. Both segments did there roles perfectly.

[mnfaninnc]

14 hours ago, Protec said:

Now with Jiricek, there's an unproven guy with injury history and disgruntle-factor. Like a Laine from a lousy team in CBJ, Guerin wants him. I guess I'm not surprised and certainly not impressed. Jiricek is another Euro player who hasn't stood out at the NHL level but was a top pick. I may not have NHL scouts on my payroll but I'd let Dubas and Yzerman haggle with CBJ management to get Jiricek. 

I think we can pluck the guy loose for more than Pittsburgh or Detroit can offer just due to our prospects. You talk about these Euro guys, but there is a stark difference between the Western type of Euro and the Eastern Euro. Jiricek is in the Eastern bloc. Those guys are way more physical.

I'd suggest that Jiricek is not a plug and play kind of guy. He'll need some time learning the system and working out his skating issues. The guy's only 20, so he's got time on his side. 

As for Laine, did you see how Thompson, last night, was able to load up and take shots, really hard shots? We lack that. We need a guy there who can at the very least make teams honor that side of the ice on their PK. We simply don't have a guy like that, but Laine would have been a perfect, cheap to acquire solution for that. Now, it also appears that Kirill Marchenko might also be a solution for that spot. I'd also think Alex Tuch could be too.