Article: Wild Reportedly Interested In Acquiring Two Flyers

[Thomas Williams]

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[Tony Abbott]

Bobby Brink would add the size to the team that I think it needs.

[Citizen Strife]

Of the two, Farabee would be a little more trusted to do what the Wild would need.  I suppose it'd probably easier to get them than a Boeser or a Nelson...but the two Brocks probably offer way more value for just a bit more trade and money later.  Boeser would definitely cost a Rossi and several picks.  Getting that as a "immediate trade -> sign" would make it worth that I guess.  Would they just as soon wait them out though?

The Wild definitely need wingers on both sides for the future.  Question is how much do you want to pay to get that done.

Edited November 15 by Citizen Strife

[TheGoosesAreLooses]

I don't mind the Farabee route, but we would need to make some cap space. Maybe we could bundle Trenin + picks or prospects for him, or even better give them Merrill in the deal. That would cover Farabee's salary almost completely and PHI is struggling with injuries on the back end and could use help. Despite our dislike for Merrill, last year he played quite well when he slotted in.

[Pewterschmidt]

2 hours ago, Tony Abbott said:

Bobby Brink would add the size to the team that I think it needs.

[Pewterschmidt]

35 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

I don't mind the Farabee route, but we would need to make some cap space. Maybe we could bundle Trenin + picks or prospects for him, or even better give them Merrill in the deal. That would cover Farabee's salary almost completely and PHI is struggling with injuries on the back end and could use help. Despite our dislike for Merrill, last year he played quite well when he slotted in.

The old “send them our smelliest garbage for their young players we want.”  It just might work.

[TheGoosesAreLooses]

2 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

The old “send them our smelliest garbage for their young players we want.”  It just might work.

Not saying we won't have to include a pick and/or prospect. They have 3 guys on IR right now on defense, York and Drysdale should be back but Ryan Ellis's back injury is going to land him on LTIR. Johnson has been playing terribly and I think Merrill would easily step past him on the depth chart. Trenin may be a harder sell but I think a utility guy like Merrill would be an easy one.

[Pewterschmidt]

21 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

Trenin may be a harder sell

Are we all admitting Trenin is our smelliest garbage right now?

i think he is, and that means the smelliest garbage floor is higher than in past years.  
 

[Protec]

Keep your powder dry Billy til you can get a L2 player. Farabee maybe but this sounds more like hockey writer bullarkey. MN is stuck on NoJo and that's a problem. He's the most obvious player in the most obvious role that would need to go away to make room.

I don't see it. Maybe if Bill wanted to trade futures-assets but then who do you bench from your forward group? It doesn't add up if you asked me.

[Enforceror]

I would think the Sabres would be a better target. They're apparently actively listening. JJ Peterka would be interesting.

[HTP]

3 hours ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said:

Not saying we won't have to include a pick and/or prospect. They have 3 guys on IR right now on defense, York and Drysdale should be back but Ryan Ellis's back injury is going to land him on LTIR. Johnson has been playing terribly and I think Merrill would easily step past him on the depth chart. Trenin may be a harder sell but I think a utility guy like Merrill would be an easy one.

Flyers fan here and you clearly know nothing about the flyers. (That's ok.)

Ryan Ellis has been on LTIR for years and is never coming back. They just don't want to buy out his contract. He will never play again. York returns in a few days and Drysdale has been in and out since being acquired. Defense is probably the least of the Flyers concerns rn. Their biggest problem is the have no centers.

Many flyers fans could see Farabee being dealt eventually, but Brink won't go anywhere without significant return - if at all, they're high on him turning into something great eventually. And no trade for either of them will happen without at least a young center and a 1st or 2nd (depending on what that center is) in return

[gagu]

I think a Trenin, Merrill, or NOJO must be included in any package. It means we would have to give up a better prospect or higher pick. Not the best bargaining position for BG to work with.

[Sam]

18 hours ago, HTP said:

Flyers fan here and you clearly know nothing about the flyers. (That's ok.)

Ryan Ellis has been on LTIR for years and is never coming back. They just don't want to buy out his contract. He will never play again. York returns in a few days and Drysdale has been in and out since being acquired. Defense is probably the least of the Flyers concerns rn. Their biggest problem is the have no centers.

Many flyers fans could see Farabee being dealt eventually, but Brink won't go anywhere without significant return - if at all, they're high on him turning into something great eventually. And no trade for either of them will happen without at least a young center and a 1st or 2nd (depending on what that center is) in return

What are you doing on a Wild fan forum than? Get lost

[Mateo3xm]

Joel Farabee is actually a really good player when given minutes. I had him in fantasy for a while last year and he went on a tear for a few months where he was basically a point per game. Somehow I think he pissed of torts(which is easy to do) and he was bumped down. He’s also still young at 24. To put up 50pts at 23 years old is pretty solid and it probably means he’s not even reached his full potential which usually starts at age 24-26. He’s 6ft which isn’t bad for a winger. 
Brink is a very talented player but he’s 5’9 and I really don’t think we need more small players even though I think size is the most important on the backend.

[Mateo3xm]

I’m just waiting for ODC and others to lose it when he sees Brinks size 😂

[Mateo3xm]

21 hours ago, Enforceror said:

I would think the Sabres would be a better target. They're apparently actively listening. JJ Peterka would be interesting.

I think they really like Peterka and consider him part of the future. I believe he’s going to be a consistent 30 goal scorer each year. Buffalo is absolutely stacked with prospects and young player though.

[Mateo3xm]

Wanted to give a player update.

Zeev Buium scored a hat trick last night so he’s up to 13pts in 11 games. That’s pretty damn impressive for a defenseman to do.

[Tony Abbott]

3 hours ago, Sam said:

What are you doing on a Wild fan forum than? Get lost

The opinions of Sam do not reflect Hockey Wilderness' position on Flyers fans posting.

[Protec]

Farabee having scored 50pts and being a consistent scorer from his start in the NHL makes him an asset that will cost a good amount.  The team that pays will want to extend him, I'm sure. MN could work it out, maybe. Who would Briere want in return? Rossi, or Yurov? What or who else? 

[Mateo3xm]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:41 PM, Protec said:

Farabee having scored 50pts and being a consistent scorer from his start in the NHL makes him an asset that will cost a good amount.  The team that pays will want to extend him, I'm sure. MN could work it out, maybe. Who would Briere want in return? Rossi, or Yurov? What or who else? 

It would be really really dumb to get rid of either of those players because they’re very likely 2nd to 1st line players.

[Protec]

34 minutes ago, Mateo3xm said:

It would be really really dumb to get rid of either of those players because they’re very likely 2nd to 1st line players.

Agreed, which is why I'm not really buying into a theory MN and Philly have a potential deal at all. Saying the Wild are interested in two guys, okay fine. That's about it, same as they're probably interested in lots of other players too.

 

[mnfaninnc]

On 11/16/2024 at 12:34 PM, Sam said:

What are you doing on a Wild fan forum than? Get lost

Sam, wouldn't you want to hear from a Phlyers perspective on this? So much of the trade discussion we have comes from our viewpoint, but not the other side. What seems to make sense to us who don't follow the other team closely, doesn't make sense to them.

The biggest factor I see is someone saying "throw in X" and it's like a done deal in their minds. This is not the way this works, this is not the way anything works. We've got to have a meeting of the minds and no trade is going to be one sided. What are Philly's goals? What does their farm system look like? Are they in full rebuild or partial? We don't really know but someone closer to their situation would. 

I would want to know what they thought about Farabee and Brink. It is quite possible that both are on the block and equally possible that we simply aren't a good trading partner.

[raithis]

57 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said:

Sam, wouldn't you want to hear from a Phlyers perspective on this? So much of the trade discussion we have comes from our viewpoint, but not the other side. What seems to make sense to us who don't follow the other team closely, doesn't make sense to them.

The biggest factor I see is someone saying "throw in X" and it's like a done deal in their minds. This is not the way this works, this is not the way anything works. We've got to have a meeting of the minds and no trade is going to be one sided. What are Philly's goals? What does their farm system look like? Are they in full rebuild or partial? We don't really know but someone closer to their situation would. 

I would want to know what they thought about Farabee and Brink. It is quite possible that both are on the block and equally possible that we simply aren't a good trading partner.

This happens a lot. 

Every time a trade suggestion I see things like throw in Spurgeon to offset the contract cost.  He's getting older and lately gets hurt more often so people want to use that cap space for younger players with upside/offense. I get that.

However, the same reasons why people suggest moving him are the same reasons another team isn't going to want the player.  You almost need a team on the cusp of going full rebuild for that, and you'll need to sweeten the deal with high prospects and high picks even to get them to consider it...and if it's a team doing poorly.enough to consider that, they are probably on a no-trade list.

There are two sides to every deal.  Both sides have to get something they want out of it, yet that seems to be a hard concept for people.

 

[Sam]

7 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

Sam, wouldn't you want to hear from a Phlyers perspective on this? So much of the trade discussion we have comes from our viewpoint, but not the other side. What seems to make sense to us who don't follow the other team closely, doesn't make sense to them.

The biggest factor I see is someone saying "throw in X" and it's like a done deal in their minds. This is not the way this works, this is not the way anything works. We've got to have a meeting of the minds and no trade is going to be one sided. What are Philly's goals? What does their farm system look like? Are they in full rebuild or partial? We don't really know but someone closer to their situation would. 

I would want to know what they thought about Farabee and Brink. It is quite possible that both are on the block and equally possible that we simply aren't a good trading partner.

I didn’t actually read the whole response.. I got as far as the first sentence and was offended. Well not really offended but you know.. But yea those are two good choices. I would prefer Michkov but that’s probably not happening.

[MNCountryLife]

Replace Nojo with a real top 6 forward would really help our top 2 lines.  You can't fix that with Nojo on the roster.  He doesn't fit in 3rd and 4th line roles so he hurts the roster no matter where you put him.  Trade him away and let Oghren learn on the job playing in the top 6 with lots of minutes.  Addition through subtraction.

Trenin may be our worst player but I think his play is adequate for a 4th liner. The odds of trading him out and adding an impact player are slim unless he is bundled.  Would be tough to watch a solid prospect walk out the door for a perennial bottom 6er.