Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: Ummmm no. Marchand yes Rossi is a harder, more north south, more shoot first granlund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 2 hours ago, Tony Abbott said: Rossi's a 5-foot-9 Eriksson Ek. That fits on any team. hmm its like saying stallone is a 5-foot-10 vanilla ice.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 48 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: Rossi is a harder, more north south, more shoot first granlund. So, a completely different player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 29 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said: So, a completely different player? Yes, but not at all like Ek maybe you were being sarcastic about the Ek compare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 42 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: Yes, but not at all like Ek maybe you were being sarcastic about the Ek compare They're both two-way centers that get the bulk of their goals by going to the net for rebounds and tips. They're very similar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 6 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said: They're both two-way centers that get the bulk of their goals by going to the net for rebounds and tips. They're very similar. In that regard I guess I’d agree with you. i drew the granlund compare because they’re both players that get physically manhandled and neutralized in playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 minute ago, Pewterschmidt said: In that regard I guess I’d agree with you. i drew the granlund compare because they’re both players that get physically manhandled and neutralized in playoffs Based on zero playoff games from Rossi??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Just now, Tony Abbott said: Based on zero playoff games from Rossi??? I’ve watched Rossi get manhandled in regular season games. So safe to say when the play and intensity amps up it gets worse for Rossi. now Rossi could evolve into an undersized player who’s still effective due to being extra gritty and by using his straight line speed. Except straight line speed isn’t really in his toolkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 10 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: I’ve watched Rossi get manhandled in regular season games. So safe to say when the play and intensity amps up it gets worse for Rossi. now Rossi could evolve into an undersized player who’s still effective due to being extra gritty and by using his straight line speed. Except straight line speed isn’t really in his toolkit. I disagree. He doesn't get hit often, much less blown up, he wins board battles, and he gets to the dirty areas of the ice with little trouble. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said: I disagree. He doesn't get hit often, much less blown up, he wins board battles, and he gets to the dirty areas of the ice with little trouble. let's not forget that the focus during the game is heavily on kaprizov, so rossi is likely the last person on any opponents mind, so he gets his chances (is he like 25% shooting? you think that'll last?) and it's not like everyone is in playoff mode now, everyone is still adjusting to the young season. they'll ramp up the intensity. philly showed us what kind of future lies for us and the brutality of full season and grind of the playoffs; when the game matters rossi will either get demolished or will pull kap off his game, because now kap will have to babysit not only zuccy but rossi. who needs that? do we want something like wilson vs panarin to happen to our star? yeah cause kap will love getting hammered by suter or benn over and over and over..... finally just look at it from long term view....zuccy + rossi are not going to maximize kaprozov's success this year. does that not alarm you? that is the primary goal of the regime! to sell kap on this team NOW. to think that we have full two year and then we will provide him what? some analytical report mumbojumbo and he will look at this projections for how our prospects are developing....that is bullshit. there is no certainty with our prospects and even that takes time. he didn't sign up for sherpa business. he wants to win immediately. that's it. not a mentor or wait and see. it's his prime year Tony! at this point if you cannot throw Rossi in a trade bin (who is likely viewed as one of our proven prospects) you are not going full in on a team that keep Kap. rossi must be used as trade piece. there is no world where Rossi remains with the wild and kap resigns - not one. Edited October 29 by OldDutchChip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 It's funny to say that they're not maximizing Kaprizov's potential when he's off to the hottest start of not just his career, but all of team history. He's chugging along at nearly two points per game! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 18 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said: It's funny to say that they're not maximizing Kaprizov's potential when he's off to the hottest start of not just his career, but all of team history. He's chugging along at nearly two points per game! yes he is a one man show! imagine someone on his line that actually deserves to be on that line! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 4 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: yes he is a one man show! imagine someone on his line that actually deserves to be on that line! You're certifiably insane if you think Kaprizov has been a one-man show. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 1 minute ago, Tony Abbott said: You're certifiably insane if you think Kaprizov has been a one-man show. only after you, if you think that zuccy and rossi are 1st line material and that kaprizov is not doing superman type shit to drag them along for the ride to his Olympus throne matthews + marner mackinnon + rantanen mcdavid + hyman kaprizov + rossi yes you right nothing out of norm......or wait maybe kaprizov is knocking at the door of mr McDavid himself to say move over i am next? of course it's because of rossi, the little zipper! yippee that rossi is doing wonderful! shit man, why don't we replace rossi with one of the other three and close our eyes and dream a little. see how that become a dangerous experiment? but i suppose - no, let's go with reality - Rossi stays, Kap goes to another team (Philly showed spunk and brought on his buddy coach that will take over for Tort) and then Wild can sign Brock Nelson, Granny, bring back and apologize to Parise and you can all be happy that MN is back to being MN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Lol, Zach Hyman, talk about dudes along for the ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 let’s just agree to disagree for now and enjoy tomorrows game 🍻 I’m hoping fleury doesn’t cost us this one but I can see a 5-1 blow out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 On 10/25/2024 at 3:04 PM, OldDutchChip said: Here is a reality (sorry for duplicate use of reality 😉 - are you saying that line of Zuccy Rossi and Kap can get anything done in the playoffs against Jets or Stars or Nights? This won't be good for Kap. Your reality looks pretty distorted. We took a undefeated Jets team to OT and made them work for it. Philly aside, I feel better about the new disciplined style they are playing well producing offense without sacrificing defense. Instead of trying to be the tough guys on the block they are playing to their talents, which is resulting in wins and points. Changing our size will take more than one player and will cost an arm and a leg in free agency. Leaving a bare bones crew to make something of this season and next is not going to put us any further ahead. Heinzy has done a great job thus far of getting the best out of the players we have with his tactics which is what we can do to win this year. Maybe you have some secret phone line where Kap tells you his deepest heart's desire, but I highly doubt it. Kap wants to win and that is what we are doing. That is what he has stated in multiple interviews and I will stick with his voiced wants over your fabricated imaginary knowledge of his wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 27 minutes ago, TheGoosesAreLooses said: Your reality looks pretty distorted. We took a undefeated Jets team to OT and made them work for it. Philly aside, I feel better about the new disciplined style they are playing well producing offense without sacrificing defense. Instead of trying to be the tough guys on the block they are playing to their talents, which is resulting in wins and points. Changing our size will take more than one player and will cost an arm and a leg in free agency. Leaving a bare bones crew to make something of this season and next is not going to put us any further ahead. Heinzy has done a great job thus far of getting the best out of the players we have with his tactics which is what we can do to win this year. Maybe you have some secret phone line where Kap tells you his deepest heart's desire, but I highly doubt it. Kap wants to win and that is what we are doing. That is what he has stated in multiple interviews and I will stick with his voiced wants over your fabricated imaginary knowledge of his wants. don't worry then - all will be well - i guess kap stated in multiple interviews something that made you calm and worry-free - good for ya - in rossi we trust 2026 line up - put fear into the opponents! Rossi - Brock Nelson - Yurov Boldy - Height - Ek Harty - Foligno - Trenin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dango Verified Member Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 Just my opinion but i think Kaprizov wants the team in general to improve not necessarily just him getting a 12-14 million center to play with , He is slightly outpacing Robertson in points and Kaprizov hasnt had quite the talent level players Robertson has had during the full duration of their careers . Im not trying to diss Kaprizovs line mates but over all Robertsons have been better so far . Hes also maybe has had coaches that help his personal stats as well . Kaprizov needs to see team improvement which is easier than nabbing a 12 million dollar center , JMHO . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnhockeyfan03 Verified Member Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Another bad game by Rossi. We need a number 1c to play with Kap to really help this team. No spot for Rossi sorry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Nels Verified Member Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said: Another bad game by Rossi. We need a number 1c to play with Kap to really help this team. No spot for Rossi sorry Curious to why you thought he had a bad game?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 10 hours ago, mnhockeyfan03 said: Another bad game by Rossi. We need a number 1c to play with Kap to really help this team. No spot for Rossi sorry Except Rossi is second only to Jack Eichel in even strength points for centers. So we should go out, give up Rossi and picks and prospects for someone performing worse than him? At this point, with Kap performing better than he ever has, Rossi almost a point per game and Zucc also a PPP, why would we change out anyone on this line. Moreover why would we pay in picks and prospects to bring someone in, in hopes that they possible gel better than the current wagon this line has been offensively. IF they fall off, I am all for trying other things but so far they haven't. Excerpt from Athletic Article: It hasn’t been easy for the Wild to find legit top-six centers in recent years besides Joel Eriksson Ek. Rossi’s excellent sophomore start — after a solid 21-goal, 40-point rookie campaign — means Minnesota finally has another high-end center. All of Rossi’s points have come at even strength; he’s two points back of Kirill Kaprizov for the Wild’s five-on-five scoring lead. Jack Eichel is the only center in the league who’s produced more five-on-five points than him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 5 hours ago, M_Nels said: Curious to why you thought he had a bad game?? He was 5-foot-9 during it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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