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Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago In order for Middzy to keep from becoming Merrill 2.0 (these players are not disimilar in style of play, skating ability, physicality and size) Midzy will have to learn from Bogo. Middle's needs to bring more sandpiper and edge to his game and be more intimidating because he doesn't have the skill-set to be a PP QB or even a top 4 d-man without an elite partner (ie Merrill). And he's only getting older and slower. I think Midzy has it in him so time will tell. I would have like to have seen Midzy flipped for a middle six contributor (Big Kahk>Mids>middle 6 wing) would have been real value creation by Guerin, but I'm not super mad Mids is still here. #tarpsoffbro 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Certainly seemed like they should have been able to extend Middleton in the $3.5M - $4M range, but hopefully he will produce really solid results. It is promising that the awful Wild PK last season had some of the best results with Middleton on the ice, and teamed back up with Spurgeon, I imagine we can anticipate more of the same, assuming they can stay healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said: (these players are not disimilar in style of play, skating ability, physicality and size) So you’re saying they are similar? That’s not good… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I think if someone like Hunt or Lambos were up to game speed, Middleton would be gone. The fact is they weren't, and were at best replacement player level. Brodin and Faber and Middleton/Spurgeon (at their skill level) is pretty damn good. Let's say for argument, "ok. but if Buium hits, Middleton is a $4.5m 3rd liner." You can counter that by any number of things that could happen. Merrill's gone after this season. Bogo's gone in a couple years, making room for Buium, Hunt, Lambos, etc. Chisholm may or may not stick (though I'm not betting on it). Spurgeon might sign a shorter term good faith deal like Zucc or Fleury at a lower cap, and Middleton and Spurgeon stay as 3rd pair until the end of both contracts. Middleton could seek a trade, so that $4.5m is someone else's problem. We don't know how long Brodin has either. He's younger than Spurgeon, but not by much. Realistically, this is what the Wild face RIGHT NOW. Brodin/Faber Middleton/Spurgeon Bogo/Chisholm/Merrill Well, in a year or two, that becomes Buium/Faber Brodin/Hunt or Lambos Middleton/Spurgeon/Hunt or Lambos You'd better fucking hope Buium, Hunt, Lambos, etc become something. Cause if Brodin and Spurgeon retire... Buium/Faber Middleton/Hunt Lambos/Spacek/Masters/O'Rourke (you may even keep Chisholm around...but unlikely) Those aren't exactly great options. Someone like an emerging free agent d-man could always be an option, but the Wild need to set aside money for forward extensions more than anything else. Middleton is a bottom-pair quality guy being paid like a Top-4 d-man because Spurgeon and he do really well. He's also there because we have no clue if the defensive guys are anywhere close to ready. Faber did the Wild a favor. Buium MIGHT be better, or he could be a name on a dart board. Edited 4 hours ago by Citizen Strife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: Those aren't exactly great options. Someone like an emerging free agent d-man could always be an option, but the Wild need to set aside money for forward extensions more than anything else. Brodin and Spurgeon are both paid pretty well. The Wild should be able to find quality free agents at or below their cap numbers if they retire or are traded. Having the top end guys like Faber and Buium will be key to not needing to overspend on free agents down the road. The cap will be increasing and the Wild seem to be setting themselves up nicely for the future at defense. Sebastian Soini might even be decent by the time the Wild are moving on from Brodin. Hunt and Lambos aren't that far away from being solid 3rd line guys, at minimum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I'm curious what free agent d-men will be available after this season. I know Miller is done the year after, but I wonder how much an extension would be if he's making $3-4m now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCheatachu Verified Member Posted 33 minutes ago Share Posted 33 minutes ago 3 hours ago, Citizen Strife said: I'm curious what free agent d-men will be available after this season. I know Miller is done the year after, but I wonder how much an extension would be if he's making $3-4m now. Ryan Suter, Jack Johnson, Brent Burns, Alec Martinez, Jeff Petry...assuming SillyG still has a hardon for guys on 35+ contracts who may/may not have played with the Penguins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted 23 minutes ago Share Posted 23 minutes ago (edited) Suter has to play for the Avalanche, Blackhawks, Jets, and Hockey Club first. Maybe he can retire before getting back around to the Preds and Wild again. Edited 23 minutes ago by Citizen Strife 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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