Article: Jack Peart Offers A Lot Of Promise But Still Has A Way To Go

[Bekki Antonelli]

View full article

[viper3119]

Some seasoning in the A will do him good and help him pick up the needed pace to his game.

[Sam]

He’s only 21 and is playing with some nerves probably. I think he’s playing pretty good, and hopefully can replace a guy like Merrill who still makes rookie mistakes. 

[Pewterschmidt]

I did not see a future nhl’r in peart. But P-train he’s young…he’s 21 so if he’s gonna make it he should show some promise and he’s small.  I’d predict Lambos gets more nhl toi, and this sports fan is not expecting much nhl toi from that over hyped prospect. 

[Burnt Toast]

Wild are desperate to see a player drafted in the second round by Judd  to hit. Other teams are finding gems. Logan Stankoven comes to mind as a 21 year old making a strong showing for, yes, your Dallas Stars. Brock Faber was drafted by the Kings so second rounders are definitely in play. 

[raithis]

54 minutes ago, Burnt Toast said:

Wild are desperate to see a player drafted in the second round by Judd  to hit. Other teams are finding gems. Logan Stankoven comes to mind as a 21 year old making a strong showing for, yes, your Dallas Stars. Brock Faber was drafted by the Kings so second rounders are definitely in play. 

Why would they be desperate?  Players typically take a couple years to develop.  It's probably unlikely to expect a 2nd rounder from anything more recent than 2021 and of those selections, Khusnutdinov is playing in the NHL.  I don't see him ever being more than bottom 6, but it's still an NHL player.  Many 2nd rounders never even make the NHL, and it seems likely that a couple of those players will become NHL players after they develop.

[Citizen Strife]

What they are desperate for is more "high end" depth.

[Burnt Toast]

25 minutes ago, raithis said:

Why would they be desperate?

Excellent point. TBH it’s me that’s desperate. I’m desperate to see the Wild break out of this mid tier funk. I can see it’s possible but only if the prospects coming through the system break out ala Logan Stankoven. Knus hopefully will be one of those guys this year, but I haven’t seen it yet. 

[Enforceror]

Yurov currently at 5gp with 2g 1a 65% fow

[Imyourhuckleberry]

5 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

Yurov currently at 5gp with 2g 1a 65% fow

Yeah, he didn't get any points in the first 2 games back from injury, so 2 goals and an assist in the last 3 games. Hopefully he can be up around a point per game by the end of the season. Have to like that faceoff %.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

Was looking for an article here related to Spurgeon's triumphant return to NHL ice, but I found an interview to share instead.

https://www.nhl.com/wild/video/spurgeon-postgame-vs-chi-10-1-6362740497112

Boldy and Middleton getting back to practice today as well!

 

[M_Nels]

18 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

Yurov currently at 5gp with 2g 1a 65% fow

Kumpulainen 7gp with 3g 3a. Liiga's website doesn't show FOW% but gametracker shows he is around 50% although looks like a couple games he was out on the wing.

He's a wildcard prospect for me, has good size but hopefully he actually comes over to the US.

[Pewterschmidt]

22 minutes ago, M_Nels said:

Kumpulainen 7gp with 3g 3a. Liiga's website doesn't show FOW% but gametracker shows he is around 50% although looks like a couple games he was out on the wing.

He's a wildcard prospect for me, has good size but hopefully he actually comes over to the US.

If ogzy, kampu and/or Stromboli can become CONTRIBUTING middle sixers that’ll be a win for Brackett because this org (like every org) needs this skill set.  These players take the spots that nojo/fred/deweys have been holding down ineffectively 

for this org to take steps forward it must improve in these role players too.  Not just top 6 rs

[Enforceror]

3 minutes ago, Pewterschmidt said:

If ogzy, kampu and/or Stromboli can become CONTRIBUTING middle sixers that’ll be a win for Brackett because this org (like every org) needs this skill set.  These players take the spots that nojo/fred/deweys have been holding down ineffectively 

for this org to take steps forward it must improve in these role players too.  Not just top 6 rs

Agreed. A couple defensively aware 20g scorers would be impactful.

[Pewterschmidt]

7 minutes ago, Enforceror said:

Agreed. A couple defensively aware 20g scorers would be impactful.

And I’m not even seeing the bar that high.  If they can score 10-15 goals AND play a Trent Frederic/Tyler bertuzzi style game that’s improvement.  

[Protec]

I am sensing some trades in the future months. MN has Spurgeon, Brodin, and BoGo who could potentially be replaced by Buium, Chisholm, Hunt. 

Yurov, Ogie, and RasmuKampu, Rossi, and Knudi are all good looking prospects that could step in for NoJo, Fred, or Zuccy. 

Now most of these vets I mention fit in for now and aren't on track to be bumped from their roles. At the same time, MN has some decisions to make and opportunity to upgrade and manage the cap & assets. This year or by next Summer seems like the time to shuffle and select the players and costs that will go forward with the post-penalty period. If Brodin or Spurgeon was traded next Summer, I wouldn't love losing them, but the cap space and players to step in are intriguing. 

If BoGo or Zuccy don't stay, or if NoJo rides off into the sunset, that's gonna allow the team to get better. Does MN have logjam-scenarios that would allow them to improve and assure Kaprizov stays to win with new players? If so, MN is gonna need to upgrade and sideline some of their current depth and veteran guys IMO. 

[Enforceror]

36 minutes ago, Protec said:

I am sensing some trades in the future months. MN has Spurgeon, Brodin, and BoGo who could potentially be replaced by Buium, Chisholm, Hunt. 

Yurov, Ogie, and RasmuKampu, Rossi, and Knudi are all good looking prospects that could step in for NoJo, Fred, or Zuccy. 

Now most of these vets I mention fit in for now and aren't on track to be bumped from their roles. At the same time, MN has some decisions to make and opportunity to upgrade and manage the cap & assets. This year or by next Summer seems like the time to shuffle and select the players and costs that will go forward with the post-penalty period. If Brodin or Spurgeon was traded next Summer, I wouldn't love losing them, but the cap space and players to step in are intriguing. 

If BoGo or Zuccy don't stay, or if NoJo rides off into the sunset, that's gonna allow the team to get better. Does MN have logjam-scenarios that would allow them to improve and assure Kaprizov stays to win with new players? If so, MN is gonna need to upgrade and sideline some of their current depth and veteran guys IMO. 

Been wondering this myself. At center, were going to have Hartman (wing?), Ek (not going anywhere), Rossi (?), Khus, Yurov (as advertised?), Gadreau (wing or gone). Not counting Heidt yet as I think he's a ways out.

[Sam]

8 hours ago, raithis said:

Many 2nd rounders never even make the NHL

?

[Sam]

10 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said:

and he’s small.

Quinn Hughes, Cale Makar, and Adam Fox are all the same height or smaller. It would be nice if He was like Chara, big and intimidating.

[Protec]

Calen Addison released from PTO with Ottawa. So after 100 games or so, the offensive talents weren't enough to become a regular NHL guy. If the Sens and Sharks are upgrading that's probably a sign your defense stinks and the PR-hype received early on in MN was just that. Many 2nd rounders will never make it. 

Pulling for RasmuKampu and Heidt is good, but the players have to do their part. Ignore the noise and just keep getting better where you're at. Make the AHL roster and do what Rossi did there first. Addison was a prime example of a guy who kinda got too big for his britches and just never adapted to the pro-level. 

[mnfaninnc]

On 10/2/2024 at 12:04 PM, Pewterschmidt said:

I did not see a future nhl’r in peart. But P-train he’s young…he’s 21 so if he’s gonna make it he should show some promise and he’s small.  I’d predict Lambos gets more nhl toi, and this sports fan is not expecting much nhl toi from that over hyped prospect. 

This is not a bad report, but it does show that Peart has got to go to work. My hope is that he was nervous and he looks good in the A. Here's a stat that can't be coached: 5'11" 185. Why is this important? Because it's real hard for him to rub guys out as a defender, and, quite frankly, at St. Cloud St. he didn't really have to.

Yes, this is the same measurements of some very elite defenders. However, Peart does not have that same elite skill. He's a decent puck moving defender that hasn't learned that he needs at least (to be read minimum) of 10 lbs. of strength. If he got 15, that would be better. Would that affect his quickness? Likely. But, it would also affect positively his ability to defend. 

But, if he wants to stay at that weight and just do some conditioning, he can follow Johansson to the Swedish spritzer league. Look at where he is on the depth chart. He's going to have to make himself into quite a player to beat out Lambos and Buium. To do that he must learn to defend, and that includes reading the plays right and taking guys out of the play. At his current measurements, he'd probably get trucked 25% of the time. Why? Because he's not an elite skater and puck handler. 

P-sizzle's right, we probably could get more in a trade package for him to get in someone who we really need rather than him making the NHL ice as a member of the Wild. I'll be rooting for him, but it's a long runway and he's at the very beginning. 

Now, this calls into serious question Judd's defensemen drafting philosophy. He has consistently tried to draft good skating, puck moving, 2-way defenders who are smart yet undersized. This would be good if we actually developed a slew of good skating, puck moving, 2-way defenders who are smart and could trade them for a King's ransom, or trade established ones and plug and play these. Where the problem lies is that it appears in Iowa that nobody knows how to develop this type of defenseman, and they have no established former player who can speak into these kids. 

Our former player personnel were all grinding wings. What do they know about undersized defenders who move the puck, other than those are the candidates to truck on the ice? I mean let's be real honest here, Marcus Johansson at 6'1" 203 could truck these kids. Think about that for a moment. 

Judd doesn't change his drafting defensemen philosophy no matter what round they are in. I guess he figures that if you draft enough of them, someone is going to punch through. Buium is another example of this, except he is far more elite than Peart. Kiviharju is a Buium clone and we really don't know how good he is due to injury. Guys in the 3rd round and beyond should at least have some size because you need that too! We can't have 1 dimensional body types at any position, it takes all kinds. He does the same thing with the 6'-6'2" forwards who skate well, are smart, have 200' games and are good with the puck. That's all he drafts. 

Why would he draft Stramel and Kumpulainen, then? Because Shooter hijacked the draft and picked those guys himself. It is the only plausible explanation, especially with this Perrault guy I was rooting against us taking. Perrault was exactly a Judd type of forward. 

I wish Peart all luck, injury luck, and hope he finds his way to the gym and really starts gaining strength. This is his rookie year in the A and I'm hoping he's smart enough to figure out that he has to get bigger to compete with the next level.

[Up North Guy]

13 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

This is not a bad report, but it does show that Peart has got to go to work. My hope is that he was nervous and he looks good in the A. Here's a stat that can't be coached: 5'11" 185. Why is this important? Because it's real hard for him to rub guys out as a defender, and, quite frankly, at St. Cloud St. he didn't really have to.

Yes, this is the same measurements of some very elite defenders. However, Peart does not have that same elite skill. He's a decent puck moving defender that hasn't learned that he needs at least (to be read minimum) of 10 lbs. of strength. If he got 15, that would be better. Would that affect his quickness? Likely. But, it would also affect positively his ability to defend. 

But, if he wants to stay at that weight and just do some conditioning, he can follow Johansson to the Swedish spritzer league. Look at where he is on the depth chart. He's going to have to make himself into quite a player to beat out Lambos and Buium. To do that he must learn to defend, and that includes reading the plays right and taking guys out of the play. At his current measurements, he'd probably get trucked 25% of the time. Why? Because he's not an elite skater and puck handler. 

P-sizzle's right, we probably could get more in a trade package for him to get in someone who we really need rather than him making the NHL ice as a member of the Wild. I'll be rooting for him, but it's a long runway and he's at the very beginning. 

Now, this calls into serious question Judd's defensemen drafting philosophy. He has consistently tried to draft good skating, puck moving, 2-way defenders who are smart yet undersized. This would be good if we actually developed a slew of good skating, puck moving, 2-way defenders who are smart and could trade them for a King's ransom, or trade established ones and plug and play these. Where the problem lies is that it appears in Iowa that nobody knows how to develop this type of defenseman, and they have no established former player who can speak into these kids. 

Our former player personnel were all grinding wings. What do they know about undersized defenders who move the puck, other than those are the candidates to truck on the ice? I mean let's be real honest here, Marcus Johansson at 6'1" 203 could truck these kids. Think about that for a moment. 

Judd doesn't change his drafting defensemen philosophy no matter what round they are in. I guess he figures that if you draft enough of them, someone is going to punch through. Buium is another example of this, except he is far more elite than Peart. Kiviharju is a Buium clone and we really don't know how good he is due to injury. Guys in the 3rd round and beyond should at least have some size because you need that too! We can't have 1 dimensional body types at any position, it takes all kinds. He does the same thing with the 6'-6'2" forwards who skate well, are smart, have 200' games and are good with the puck. That's all he drafts. 

Why would he draft Stramel and Kumpulainen, then? Because Shooter hijacked the draft and picked those guys himself. It is the only plausible explanation, especially with this Perrault guy I was rooting against us taking. Perrault was exactly a Judd type of forward. 

I wish Peart all luck, injury luck, and hope he finds his way to the gym and really starts gaining strength. This is his rookie year in the A and I'm hoping he's smart enough to figure out that he has to get bigger to compete with the next level.

Not sure anyone caught it but Russo tweeted that Stramel is number 1 center for Michigan State. It is going to be fun to see how he does with it.