Patrick Verified Member Posted Monday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:58 PM 2 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: Midds is back at 4.35 per for 4 more years! Common sign Bogo to the same and we'll be set The fact that Tanev got essentially the same price makes me sick. Tanev is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Midds. BG has to stop it with the loyalty club contracts. Stupid signing. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:59 PM 5 minutes ago, Protec said: That's why the Wild were pushed around and unable to defend against the big hard teams. They're one step closer to getting a heavier more complete group. MN will need more scoring than just one big Russian depth guy, but this isn't a crummy AAV or term. i'd probably instead would have taken the money from Midds and Trenin and went and signed Marchy (before Preds got to him). thats 8 million for Midds and Trenin. I just don't see any sense in it, if there could be a world where we could have had Marchy instead and just played one of our prospects instead of Midds.....i dunno, waste of money to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:01 PM brendan gaunce, cameron crotty, joseph cecconi, travis boyd, reese johnson, ben jones! stop it billy!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:09 PM 7 minutes ago, Patrick said: The fact that Tanev got essentially the same price makes me sick. Tanev is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Midds. BG has to stop it with the loyalty club contracts. Stupid signing. You got some good points here. I don't like the Middleton signing so much but he's not an old player. It's kinda the journeyman deal and is safe if MN expects Faber and Buium to become the next wave on defense. The future on defense is set now and it's not horrible. In many ways the flashiest UFAs carry big risk. This is a better version of the Wild who barely missed the playoffs. I'm optimistic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:15 PM (edited) Tanev is 34, so that $4.5m might look terrible while he's sitting on the shelf someday. Middleton's been a stalwart and is 6 years younger on a shorter deal. They aren't the same player, not the same age range, so whatever. If I'm banking on who will stay healthy, it'd probably be Midds. Also, in case anyone forgot, the LA Kings somehow suckered someone into the PLD contract a year after signing it. None of the Wild's players nore contracts have PLDs baggage nor lackluster reputation. The Kings just proved anyone can get traded out of a bad situation if a team wants someone bad enough. Edited Monday at 09:18 PM by Citizen Strife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:17 PM why not just let Midds ride it out this year and see. By then we'll know if Zeev is the next great D? Even if he is half of what people are clamoring he is, then he already IS better than Midds! or maybe O'Rourke, Hunt, Peart or another half dozen of prospects develop into legit NHLers? If any of this happens, then Midds now moves down to third pair. And if Midds plays there without Spurge - he is a mess, an old, slow, mess. and getting paid 4.35 per and we have him for the next 5 years! since i am assuming the contract starts next year? and NTC (of course!) argh! why doesn't billy realize that he has his D prospects (plus new "prize of the draft" - Zeev) are all of these prospects ceiling third pairing? thats it? you cannot tell me that they cannot beat out Midds. they have yet to be given a chance and likely won't with this extension. Good luck Zeev. i don't think i've been happy once commenting on here! is it too much to ask for ONE good move from these idiots that run wild? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:19 PM 41 minutes ago, Protec said: I see Foligno fizzling I'm thinking the Lauko and Trenin adds will prevent us from needing to pickup up a D Lo OR a Reeves so I can get on board. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:23 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:23 PM (edited) i don't think i've been happy once commenting on here! Um...that's not the team nor our problem. Being frustrated is a personal choice. Maybe I'm just a content dumbfuck, but I've learned a few things that have made me feel better about a lot of things. If I have time to be angry about something, I have time to do the things that make me feel better. That way I leave my feelings at the door and try to look on the bright side. Sorry if that sounds lecture-ish or a little too optimistic, but being angry doesn't solve anything. I think the team is going to go about its business whether we whine about the team, support them, get angsty, etc. Besides, if I ever feel I'm getting too angry about something, I can just listen to Sabbath or Maiden and cheer right back up. Note: I am NOT past the point of being pissed about if the team is struggling or not. I just...don't really care that much at the end of the day. Watching a team should be fun, all things considered. Edited Monday at 09:25 PM by Citizen Strife 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:25 PM Did not age well… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Oh no, where will NoJo play if this guy plays wing on the 3rd line??!! (Sarcasm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:28 PM 1 minute ago, Citizen Strife said: i don't think i've been happy once commenting on here! Um...that's not the team nor our problem. Being frustrated is a personal choice. Maybe I'm just a content dumbfuck, but I've learned a few things that have made me feel better about a lot of things. If I have time to be angry about something, I have time to do the things that make me feel better. That way I leave my feelings at the door and try to look on the bright side. Sorry if that sounds lecture-ish or a little too optimistic, but being angry doesn't solve anything. I think the team is going to go about its business whether we whine about the team, support them, get angsty, etc. Besides, if I ever feel I'm getting too angry about something, I can just listen to Sabbath or Maiden and cheer right back up. oh i am just a pessimist and a realist at the core - so its all down hill now for Wild i was fooled once! when we got heater and setaguchi - i got excited - that taught me to not make the same mistake!! might have to bring out some metal - JP or DIO for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:29 PM 1 minute ago, FredJohnson said: Oh no, where will NoJo play if this guy plays wing on the 3rd line??!! (Sarcasm) possibly still on line 2, while Nutty is rotting in AHL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:30 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:30 PM JP and DIO See, now we're speaking the same language. Besides, I'm not getting fooled into rooting for ANY Minnesota team ever. I just laugh it off at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredJohnson Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:34 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:34 PM "It felt like we didn't have that energy. It felt like there was a sag, a little bit of a 'Poor Me'-type vibe "What, me worry?" - NoJo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted Monday at 09:50 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:50 PM 18 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: oh i am just a pessimist and a realist at the core - so its all down hill now for Wild i was fooled once! when we got heater and setaguchi - i got excited - that taught me to not make the same mistake!! might have to bring out some metal - JP or DIO for me I had a dream last night, more of a vision where a wild Bearcat stepped out of the spruce trees near a tranquil Minnesota lake and said Trenin is from a place in Russia with a silver mountain where they ride tigers. I haven't looked into it yet but seemed relevant so I figured I'd mention it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krotz the Wall Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:03 PM 4 years @ $4.35m per year for Mids is an overpay. He’ll likely be a 3rd pairing defender, and mentor, as early as the first year of the extension. Why does Guerin overpay his veterans, in term and AAV, after down seasons? Middleton didn’t do anything to almost double his salary… and he got a limited NTC? Again Guerin didn’t wait to see how the season started, negotiated against his own expectations, and delivered essentially the same contract as everyone else gets. 🤷♂️ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:24 PM WTF BG. It's like he doesn't care about negotiating for the benefit of the organization. It's your job dude. Every extension he has made has been too long with too much protection and I'm tired of bitching and hearing people bitch bout the same thing. At what point is the player loyalty going to pay off? It better be this day next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:29 PM 58 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: JP and DIO See, now we're speaking the same language. Besides, I'm not getting fooled into rooting for ANY Minnesota team ever. I just laugh it off at this point. Is anyone on this forum under 50? 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:33 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:33 PM I'm 38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovehockey Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:43 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:43 PM Kaprizov- Boldy-Ek zuccarello-Rossi - MoJo hartman- Folino-Trenin freddy - ??? - ??? (Marat/Boston guys we traded for) 1. Two questions: - where do u see spot for your young players. U cannot play them in the 4th line, and 3 line are taken for these year and only one spot available for the nexr - how Wild can be making playoff (I am not talking about getting deeper in the playoffs) with this? maybe I am missing something but - if I would be Yrov I wouldn’t come next year, would wait one more to be able to be eligible just for one year contract - I don’t know why Kaprizov would sign here ? Tampa Bay or Florida Panterns will be his next destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:47 PM 1 hour ago, Protec said: You got some good points here. I don't like the Middleton signing so much but he's not an old player. It's kinda the journeyman deal and is safe if MN expects Faber and Buium to become the next wave on defense. The future on defense is set now and it's not horrible. In many ways the flashiest UFAs carry big risk. This is a better version of the Wild who barely missed the playoffs. I'm optimistic. I agree it's not terrible and I like Midds as a player but it seems like an unforced error. It's a million high and a year too long and a year too early. The margins are so narrow that a move like this doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:52 PM 4 minutes ago, Patrick said: I agree it's not terrible and I like Midds as a player but it seems like an unforced error. It's a million high and a year too long and a year too early. The margins are so narrow that a move like this doesn't make any sense. It was the first fair offer Midzy's agent came up with, so BG got out the Brandy, they had a couple shots and they wrote it up... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 10:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:54 PM 1 hour ago, Protec said: I had a dream last night, more of a vision where a wild Bearcat stepped out of the spruce trees near a tranquil Minnesota lake and said Trenin is from a place in Russia with a silver mountain where they ride tigers. I haven't looked into it yet but seemed relevant so I figured I'd mention it. i think Billy had the same dream! 🐅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDutchChip Verified Member Posted Monday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:05 PM 15 minutes ago, Lovehockey said: Kaprizov- Boldy-Ek zuccarello-Rossi - MoJo hartman- Folino-Trenin freddy - ??? - ??? (Marat/Boston guys we traded for) 1. Two questions: - where do u see spot for your young players. U cannot play them in the 4th line, and 3 line are taken for these year and only one spot available for the nexr - how Wild can be making playoff (I am not talking about getting deeper in the playoffs) with this? maybe I am missing something but - if I would be Yrov I wouldn’t come next year, would wait one more to be able to be eligible just for one year contract - I don’t know why Kaprizov would sign here ? Tampa Bay or Florida Panterns will be his next destination maybe if Ohgren impresses a ton, they can put him with Rossi and Boldy and then Kap and EK can play with someone? i dunno. maybe they convince tarasenko to come in for whatever we have left to play with for the year so he can play up with Kap and EK? a bit depressing considering Tarasenko is aging fast. very fast. to your second Q - i wouldn't worry about playoffs. i think this is finally a year where we go for top 3 pick and maybe get ivan the russian. maybe even a boldy for mitchkov trade? kaprizov, mitchkov, ivan, yurov ..... i am back on this wild train! billy go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovehockey Verified Member Posted Monday at 11:26 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:26 PM 19 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said: maybe if Ohgren impresses a ton, they can put him with Rossi and Boldy and then Kap and EK can play with someone? i dunno. maybe they convince tarasenko to come in for whatever we have left to play with for the year so he can play up with Kap and EK? a bit depressing considering Tarasenko is aging fast. very fast. to your second Q - i wouldn't worry about playoffs. i think this is finally a year where we go for top 3 pick and maybe get ivan the russian. maybe even a boldy for mitchkov trade? kaprizov, mitchkov, ivan, yurov ..... i am back on this wild train! billy go for it. If u are not joking: there is no single spot to put any other player on the Wild roster. Period. And we will not be able to trade anyone with contracts structure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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