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Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:09 PM Sad to see Shaw go, but maybe some other team will take a chance on him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted Monday at 01:36 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:36 PM A little surprised the Wild gave Sammy Walker the qualifying offer, but not Mason Shaw. Mason Shaw seems like the more useful player for them. Perhaps they could still sign Shaw as an unrestricted free agent at the minimum rather than the slightly higher qualifying offer amount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted Monday at 02:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:25 PM 48 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: A little surprised the Wild gave Sammy Walker the qualifying offer Agree. I thought maybe they’d seen enough from Walker after his short stint last season. Maybe the plan is to have him be the de facto captain of Iowa Wild giving some guidance to the newbies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 02:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 02:42 PM Kane gone already (re-signed with Detroit, 4.5m+2m bonuses I think). Other rumored names (Vlad, Perron, Duclair, etc) haven't moved yet. Kane's bonuses were out the Wild's range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllicitFive Verified Member Posted Monday at 03:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:08 PM Be interesting is there is anyone worth while with around 6 mil in space. I don't know how much you want to keep on reserve incase of injuries and all of that but maybe you will find someone for a cheaper prove it deal that can help for the year. Pie in the sky dream, finding ways to unload a freddie g or nojo type contract. Possibly open up 2 mil plus is gus is traded away. Not expecting much this off season but we may be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted Monday at 03:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:12 PM I hope Shaw get's back to pre injury form and finds success. The guy showed more heart and desire and gave us the ability to roll that 4th line with confidence. I think we just have too many young guys that need a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 03:38 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:38 PM (edited) Teravainen and Bertuzzi both going to the Blackhawks, while the Preds might get both Stamkos (already done) and Marchessault. Chicago trying desperately not to look like an AHL team, and Nashville (maybe) getting help. Hey tankers and doomers, you just might get your wish...teams in the division aren't doing nothing. Edited Monday at 03:40 PM by Citizen Strife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted Monday at 04:08 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:08 PM We got Yakov Trenin according to the Athletic. Billy G adding some size and snarl to the bottom-6 to replace the Du-Dew twins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 04:17 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:17 PM 207 hits last year? Works for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted Monday at 04:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:55 PM 3 hours ago, Citizen Strife said: Sad to see Shaw go, but maybe some other team will take a chance on him. I don't think he's done yet. I don't think he'll get a 1-way deal with another team, and will circle back for a 2-way deal here, likely starting again in Iowa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted Monday at 04:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:57 PM 2 hours ago, Pewterschmidt said: Agree. I thought maybe they’d seen enough from Walker after his short stint last season. Maybe the plan is to have him be the de facto captain of Iowa Wild giving some guidance to the newbies I'm thinking he still had usefulness as a potential callup. Contract will be cheap on the NHL side, maybe a little more on the AHL side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 05:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:01 PM 5 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: I don't think he's done yet. I don't think he'll get a 1-way deal with another team, and will circle back for a 2-way deal here, likely starting again in Iowa. If the idea is a $1-1.2m deal for Shaw to stay as 13th forward, I'm ok with this plan. I know flashy ass offense is important, but that PK was just fucking abysmal. They can use all the defense they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted Monday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:06 PM 4 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: If the idea is a $1-1.2m deal for Shaw to stay as 13th forward, I'm ok with this plan. I know flashy ass offense is important, but that PK was just fucking abysmal. They can use all the defense they can get. I'm thinking league minimum in the NHL and $500k in the AHL. I love Shaw's heart, but we have to face objective facts: He was slower last season after ACL #4. He may require more time than a rehab stint in the A will allow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 05:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:12 PM (edited) The other idea is Heidt or even Ohgren might stay and be 2nd line scorer/13th forward instead of Shaw, and that's why they might have paid a premium on Trenin as Foligno insurance. If Heidt doesn't exactly light the world on fire, he goes back another year and Hartman/Ohgren stay as the best 2nd line options. I don't think the Wild want to overspend and end back up in the "No money for callups" problem again. Edited Monday at 05:13 PM by Citizen Strife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoosesAreLooses Verified Member Posted Monday at 05:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:47 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said: We got Yakov Trenin according to the Athletic. Billy G adding some size and snarl to the bottom-6 to replace the Du-Dew twins. Paid wayyy too much for him @3.5m. We love to spend money on beef. I thought they were looking for a short term add. 4 years is right into the window but at least he is less than 30 Edited Monday at 05:49 PM by TheGoosesAreLooses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will D. Ness Verified Member Posted Monday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:12 PM Yeah like always it seems the term is one year too long with BG. I'm cool with going out and getting a PK guy all things considered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted Monday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:20 PM 3 hours ago, Will D. Ness said: I hope Shaw get's back to pre injury form and finds success. The guy showed more heart and desire and gave us the ability to roll that 4th line with confidence. I think we just have too many young guys that need a shot. Looks like they want to replace him with bigger guys who can play PK and hit. Trenin has rated pretty solidly on the PK and was one of the top hitters for Nashville in his time under Hynes. Put in a few playoff goals as well(in a 4-game sweep by Colorado). Maybe Trenin's better than I gave him credit for in the other comments section. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted Monday at 06:32 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:32 PM I looked up things to make sure. 20-21st in GF/GA (around 250 each way) 10th in PP% (22.7%) 30th in PK% (74.5) Trenin, Spurgeon and Foligno returning, and hopefully a bounce back from Gaudreau. Goalie voodoo might be the real reason...but holy balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protec Verified Member Posted Monday at 07:03 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:03 PM I like the Trenin deal cause it's a guy I've been saying would help give the Wild balance. He's not too old, adds the Russian toughness factor and redundancy if Foligno is out. He's getting a little more than before which is deserved but I would have liked it to be less AAV. Not crying about it though. If Foligno really falls off or is hurt, Trenin fills that role easily. I have been calling for guys like this since he was still in NSH. Has GMBG been reading the comments? Now MN didn't get DuClair and Dakota Joshua signed again in Vancouver for 3.25M. Now if MN can dump NoJo, I'll have gotten my way on everything off-season except the No-Euro draft distinction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted Monday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:14 PM 33 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: Goalie voodoo might be the real reason Fleury's save% of just .813 certainly wasn't helping, by far the worst of his career. Fleury's save% against short handed teams was even worse, putting his special teams save% down at .806. I'm definitely against trading Gustavsson as I'm not expecting a major bounce back from Fleury at 40 years old. Gus had an .879 save percentage against PP shots, with significantly more shots faced, and .883 for all special teams situations. Fleury was a bit better even strength than Gustavsson, but Gus performed better overall on the year, and was significantly better the prior year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 21 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: Fleury's save% against short handed teams was even worse, putting his special teams save% down at .806. I was wondering if we should rethink the 4 forwards PP strategy and go with 2 D? Specifically doing this on PP2 might be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, mnfaninnc said: I was wondering if we should rethink the 4 forwards PP strategy and go with 2 D? Specifically doing this on PP2 might be a good idea. Well, they certainly don't need to get Johansson out there, so I could agree with that to some degree. Gus only let in 2 shorties on 26 shots against(.923). I have no idea the difference in high danger shots between him and Fleury on those(and they are small sample sizes), but the save percentage difference was staggering. After the upcoming season, when they can have Faber on one of the PP units, and Buium on the other, that may also produce better results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: After the upcoming season, when they can have Faber on one of the PP units, and Buium on the other, that may also produce better results. Yet, Chisholm also showed competence on the PP unit. That could be 3 defenders. Spurgeon certainly could run one. I wouldn't put Middleton or Brodin or Bogosian on a unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritty.Not.Pretty Verified Member Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago If only we could transplant NoJo’s legs on Shaw… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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