Article: Minnesota Should Stick and Pick At 13

[OldDutchChip]

23 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

How?  Giving up a 3rd to get a guy expected to go 5-8?

who da F cares about a prospect! if you are happy with this stupidity than you cannot see the reality in front of you. this kid is not what our timeline dictated plan and simple. 

[OldDutchChip]

23 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

I'm sorry that the Wild didn't draft a 7'13" guy who eats nails for breakfast.

don't be sorry, be happy that another prospect is added to a list of can't miss superstars who are just waiting for that bum Kaprizov to leave so that they can wow the crowd. yeap our track record of drafting is top notch. its a steal. a steal i tell you all. yeah no thanks, its stupid decision by incompetent morons (billy and crew)

[OldDutchChip]

17 minutes ago, B1GKappa97 said:

You that mad about a 3rd rounder? Okay dude

i do NOT care about a third rounder, nor any of the prospects in this year. i could care less. wild have one primary goal - which is to satisfy its superstar. instead they are prioritizing faber, middleton, and continue to draft as normal. to me thats idiotic. let me repeat so that Mateo can hear me - IDIOTIC

[Citizen Strife]

Am I able to put anyone on this site on ignore?

[Tony Abbott]

Their primary goal is to build a Stanley Cup-winning team, actually.

[Tony Abbott]

Just now, Citizen Strife said:

Am I able to put anyone on this site on ignore?

You're stuck with me, I'm afraid.

[OldDutchChip]

1 minute ago, Citizen Strife said:

Am I able to put anyone on this site on ignore?

yourself? please try! 

[OldDutchChip]

2 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said:

Their primary goal is to build a Stanley Cup-winning team, actually.

yeah and i think having Kap on the team for the next decade is actually helpful to do so. or your crystal ball saying zeev and stramel are going to come in and replace Kap skills? no? ok thought so. 

[B1GKappa97]

3 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

i do NOT care about a third rounder, nor any of the prospects in this year. i could care less. wild have one primary goal - which is to satisfy its superstar. instead they are prioritizing faber, middleton, and continue to draft as normal. to me thats idiotic. let me repeat so that Mateo can hear me - IDIOTIC

Yes, I’m sure Kaprizov will hate to play with one of the best offensive defensemen on the power play or even strength…

Who were they supposed to take to satisfy Kap???

[OldDutchChip]

Just now, B1GKappa97 said:

Yes, I’m sure Kaprizov will hate to play with one of the best offensive defensemen on the power play or even strength…

Who were they supposed to take to satisfy Kap???

argh they were supposed to use their assets and get a proven player. that's it. no drafting potential. get immediate help.

i am thinking this - hold a second - this may get weird so hold tight - how about showing your ALL WORLD player what its like to win and not have to be the sole driver for the team, to have to drag his team and teammates along, all while getting pummeled to the ground while your team does almost nothing to defend you. NO? that Kaprizov will be just fine. and if not, no biggie, he is not that good. 

 

[Citizen Strife]

4 minutes ago, B1GKappa97 said:

Yes, I’m sure Kaprizov will hate to play with one of the best offensive defensemen on the power play or even strength…

Who were they supposed to take to satisfy Kap???

McDavid, Matthews, Drai, and Barkov.  Flying V line.  Salary Cap be damaned.

[Tony Abbott]

15 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

yeah and i think having Kap on the team for the next decade is actually helpful to do so. or your crystal ball saying zeev and stramel are going to come in and replace Kap skills? no? ok thought so. 

If they're all Kaprizov-level or bust, why even draft anyone?

[IllicitFive]

13 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

argh they were supposed to use their assets and get a proven player. that's it. no drafting potential. get immediate help.

i am thinking this - hold a second - this may get weird so hold tight - how about showing your ALL WORLD player what its like to win and not have to be the sole driver for the team, to have to drag his team and teammates along, all while getting pummeled to the ground while your team does almost nothing to defend you. NO? that Kaprizov will be just fine. and if not, no biggie, he is not that good. 

 

So as others have asked... Who should they have taken? Or should they have traded players and picks for a player? If so whom? You do understand the job of a GM is to set up for prolonged success right? You do also see the wilds cap situation this year vs the terms on contracts starting to expire? Tell me you are old man yelling at clouds without telling me you are the old man yelling at clouds. 

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, Tony Abbott said:

If they're all Kaprizov-level or bust, why even draft anyone?

thats the point, they are not Kaprizov level. you are not going to get another one like him. do you realize that wild in their existence have had ONE all-world player. 1. Odin. And you pretend like its no biggie. If Kap walk, no biggie, we were fine before him and we will be fine after him. Do you not realize that we have a top 5 player in the league and maybe we should create a strategy that aligns with that players timeline? We are not a team that is looking to build for the future. Our future is now with Kap. Instead Wild are steering this directly into a future where Kap leaves. That is horrible. From product on the ice to revenue. I seriously don't understand why you all are over hyped by adding yet another prospect .... This prospect is not going to step in and offer immediate help nor is he going to be a force and help with a little physicality. No he is a work-in-progress. After Kaprizov is gone, he can step in and lead us to glory along with other prospects that are knocking at the door breaking that door

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, IllicitFive said:

So as others have asked... Who should they have taken? Or should they have traded players and picks for a player? If so whom? You do understand the job of a GM is to set up for prolonged success right? You do also see the wilds cap situation this year vs the terms on contracts starting to expire? Tell me you are old man yelling at clouds without telling me you are the old man yelling at clouds. 

should i list all the players that are in play? besides the true all - world players, there are ways to get it done. it just takes smarts and planning. Agree?

GM should think ahead. But sometimes they are idiots who do not. See ALL previous GMs for the team. 

As far as Cap - this is irrelevant when faced with our predicament. We have to show results to, let me say this again, our ALL WORLD player.

i am not old. but i yell at clouds.

[Protec]

The Wild added a free asset to the prospect group who has a ton of qualities like the current Norris winner. Very similar, in fact. Getting a defender after all the forwards MN has had before was a double-whammy considering it was also the best player available. 

There were some other nice boom or bust guys but MN didn't need to trade this pick at this exact time. Let's go to the UFA market for DuClair or Tarasenko. Maybe Joshua or Trenin, but there's no reason to throw caution to the wind. Small gains will eventually reach a tipping point. MN is getting much closer. 25-26 looks like it can be pretty frick'n good.

[IllicitFive]

9 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

should i list all the players that are in play? besides the true all - world players, there are ways to get it done. it just takes smarts and planning. Agree?

GM should think ahead. But sometimes they are idiots who do not. See ALL previous GMs for the team. 

As far as Cap - this is irrelevant when faced with our predicament. We have to show results to, let me say this again, our ALL WORLD player.

i am not old. but i yell at clouds.

i would like 3 players listed who are available and what, in a fair style trade you would do to get them, and fill out the roster, and still be cap compliant. Or FA signing. You sure make it sound easy. None of this Hartman for brady tkachuk type because no way the sens make that trade. 

Sure there are ways of getting it done. I'd love to gm a team against yours, fleece you for everything you have so you can "get it done". Takes 2 to tango. 

If all gms are idiots that have been here you should have an easy time proving you should be the man for the job right? Can't wait for GMODC selling off everything and everyone to "make it happen."

How is missing approx 15 mil irrelevant? Do you what 15 mil can get you? That's right higher end players. Higher end players usually mean higher end results. Or you thinking trade a 7th for McDavid and tell him to be happy with 4 mil a year? I'm beginning to wonder if you are just a troll at this point. 

[OldDutchChip]

2 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

i would like 3 players listed who are available and what, in a fair style trade you would do to get them, and fill out the roster, and still be cap compliant. Or FA signing. You sure make it sound easy. None of this Hartman for brady tkachuk type because no way the sens make that trade. 

Sure there are ways of getting it done. I'd love to gm a team against yours, fleece you for everything you have so you can "get it done". Takes 2 to tango. 

If all gms are idiots that have been here you should have an easy time proving you should be the man for the job right? Can't wait for GMODC selling off everything and everyone to "make it happen."

How is missing approx 15 mil irrelevant? Do you what 15 mil can get you? That's right higher end players. Higher end players usually mean higher end results. Or you thinking trade a 7th for McDavid and tell him to be happy with 4 mil a year? I'm beginning to wonder if you are just a troll at this point. 

i already told you, almost everyone is available if the price is right. and i actually like hartman, he can stay.

Sure there are ways of getting it done. I'd love to gm a team against yours, fleece you for everything you have so you can "get it done". Takes 2 to tango. 

so you are saying "sure there are ways of getting it done". ok isn't that agreeing with me? as for the second part about tango, unfortunately i don't dance.

If all gms are idiots that have been here you should have an easy time proving you should be the man for the job right?

Proving to you or who? how would you like me to do that?

• do we go with Doggie R and his amazing 10 year run that yielded 1 division title, 3 playoffs appearance, horrible drafting and alienating the best player?
• chucky the trader fletcher maybe? that was an idiot though i don't think i need to provide any back up for that (except for his lucky 5th round pick, guess who?)
• fenton??? 
• billy g - g stands for genius

argh maybe i should be the gm of the team. if you know leo tell him ODC is available.

[Tony Abbott]

51 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

thats the point, they are not Kaprizov level. you are not going to get another one like him. do you realize that wild in their existence have had ONE all-world player. 1. Odin. And you pretend like its no biggie. If Kap walk, no biggie, we were fine before him and we will be fine after him. Do you not realize that we have a top 5 player in the league and maybe we should create a strategy that aligns with that players timeline? We are not a team that is looking to build for the future. Our future is now with Kap. Instead Wild are steering this directly into a future where Kap leaves. That is horrible. From product on the ice to revenue. I seriously don't understand why you all are over hyped by adding yet another prospect .... This prospect is not going to step in and offer immediate help nor is he going to be a force and help with a little physicality. No he is a work-in-progress. After Kaprizov is gone, he can step in and lead us to glory along with other prospects that are knocking at the door breaking that door

My dude, I have never said it is no biggie if Kaprizov leaves. I just don't think Kaprizov is going to walk in the front office and say "if you draft a good player in the first round, I'm gone."

Buium could easily be in the Wild's lineup at the end of next year after his season in DU. If the dude is looking like a stud in the NHL in April that's probably going to make a better case than trading for a roster player that's going to eat up a chunk of Kaprizov's earning potential.

[OldDutchChip]

1 minute ago, Tony Abbott said:

My dude, I have never said it is no biggie if Kaprizov leaves. I just don't think Kaprizov is going to walk in the front office and say "if you draft a good player in the first round, I'm gone."

Buium could easily be in the Wild's lineup at the end of next year after his season in DU. If the dude is looking like a stud in the NHL in April that's probably going to make a better case than trading for a roster player that's going to eat up a chunk of Kaprizov's earning potential.

Do you agree that Kap's leaving will be an enormous blow to the team? i think it's going to be infinitely more damaging to the team than what happened when Gabby left with nothing

I doubt that Kap is dictating anything, but i would also expect him to be very observant at what the team is doing. Having yet another prospect is great for fans, but may not be what he is looking for. I do think we owe him to go for it. To reach for immediate help, for immediate help that helps him. I am also very disappointed that he in not a captain. i think that would go a long way in securing his connection to our team. 

 

[OldDutchChip]

3 hours ago, Citizen Strife said:

McDavid, Matthews, Drai, and Barkov.  Flying V line.  Salary Cap be damaned.

maybe aim a bit lower? or is that not allowed? 

[IllicitFive]

10 hours ago, OldDutchChip said:

i already told you, almost everyone is available if the price is right. and i actually like hartman, he can stay.

Sure there are ways of getting it done. I'd love to gm a team against yours, fleece you for everything you have so you can "get it done". Takes 2 to tango. 

so you are saying "sure there are ways of getting it done". ok isn't that agreeing with me? as for the second part about tango, unfortunately i don't dance.

If all gms are idiots that have been here you should have an easy time proving you should be the man for the job right?

Proving to you or who? how would you like me to do that?

• do we go with Doggie R and his amazing 10 year run that yielded 1 division title, 3 playoffs appearance, horrible drafting and alienating the best player?
• chucky the trader fletcher maybe? that was an idiot though i don't think i need to provide any back up for that (except for his lucky 5th round pick, guess who?)
• fenton??? 
• billy g - g stands for genius

argh maybe i should be the gm of the team. if you know leo tell him ODC is available.

Yes proving to anyone who cares to read it. I gave you how, provide 3 players you wanna get, how you would get them, make the team cap compliant and have a full roster.  Lets go with anyone you could ever want is available. Who should they go get? What assets do you give up? Cap compliant? Full roster? I am laying it out  for you to prove to us all how easily you could do this. I can't wait to see your plan.

[OldDutchChip]

32 minutes ago, IllicitFive said:

Yes proving to anyone who cares to read it. I gave you how, provide 3 players you wanna get, how you would get them, make the team cap compliant and have a full roster.  Lets go with anyone you could ever want is available. Who should they go get? What assets do you give up? Cap compliant? Full roster? I am laying it out  for you to prove to us all how easily you could do this. I can't wait to see your plan.

what am i proving and to who? there are players out there that would work out better for what we need. some would require trades, some are free agents. guentzel, marchy, tuch, buch, necas, tkachuk, zegras, smith, marner, nylander, kane, laine, ehlers, mcgroarty....etc.  some are more desired than others, but i am not wasting time on that for you. think what you want. 

[IllicitFive]

27 minutes ago, OldDutchChip said:

what am i proving and to who? there are players out there that would work out better for what we need. some would require trades, some are free agents. guentzel, marchy, tuch, buch, necas, tkachuk, zegras, smith, marner, nylander, kane, laine, ehlers, mcgroarty....etc.  some are more desired than others, but i am not wasting time on that for you. think what you want. 

Oh trust me, from your posts I already do. Thanks for wasting time saying you waste time by actually answering. 🙂

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, IllicitFive said:

Oh trust me, from your posts I already do. Thanks for wasting time saying you waste time by actually answering. 🙂

no wasted time at all. glad i helped you out. 🍻