Article: The Wild Can Still Land A Bona Fide Prospect With the 13th Pick

[Luke Sims]

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[Mateo3xm]

So a prospect that’s really seems to be flying under the radar is Artamonov. I don’t want him at 13 but he’s 6th all time for U18 players in the KHL. Between Tarasanko and daniil But with 23pts. He’s the first 17 year old khl player to score 4pts in a game as well. He’s not huge but he’s stocky at 5’11 200lbs

[Citizen Strife]

If you want to go need AND skill, Yakemchuk, Eiserman, or Sennecke if they are there.  The Wild are weak behind Kaprizov and Boldy.  Yakemchuk slots in right behind Faber probably in time for Spurgeon's contract to end (or just about), or Dickinson/Solberg can fit as Top 4/6 behind Brodin and Middleton.

I'm not even against Helenius or Catton for size reasons.  They really should figure out who to shift to wing if they are really intent on Rossi, Heidt, Yurov, Khusnutdinov, Catton/Helenius/etc.  

Edited Thursday at 09:37 PM by Citizen Strife

[Mateo3xm]

“There’s no guarantee that Dickinson and Yakemchuk will be there, but the chances are higher. The knock on Dickinson is that he doesn’t have elite traits in any area. He has good speed, good size, and good hockey sense, but his ceiling is not considered as high as some of the other defenders in this class. “

 

from what I read in most articles/videos about Dickinson is that he’s one of the best skaters in the draft. “Even as one of the bigger players in his class, Dickinson's earned him fastest-skater honors with the puck on his stick, going both forward and backward. He also ranked second in transition ability. 

I think he actually played on the 2nd pairing and still got 70 done points. He’s one of the best defenders at defending in that entire league too. If we got him I’d be ecstatic but I don’t think we have a chance.

[Mateo3xm]

38 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said:

If you want to go need AND skill, Yakemchuk, Eiserman, or Sennecke if they are there.  The Wild are weak behind Kaprizov and Boldy.  Yakemchuk slots in right behind Faber probably in time for Spurgeon's contract to end (or just about), or Dickinson/Solberg can fit as Top 4/6 behind Brodin and Middleton.

I'm not even against Helenius or Catton for size reasons.  They really should figure out who to shift to wing if they are really intent on Rossi, Heidt, Yurov, Khusnutdinov, Catton/Helenius/etc.  

I really like Stian Solberg but I’d be disappointed if they got him at 13. That’s a big reach in my opinion. If we somehow got 2 first round picks and he was one of them it would be easier to stomach.

either way I think we have a good chance at Sennecke, Eiserman, Yakemchuk, Helenius, Catton, MBN. I’d actually be happier if they picked Michael Hage over a couple of them. In the last like 15 games of the year he was at around 2 pts per game. He’s a great skater, playmaker, goal scorer and has high iq. He’s a true center and between 6’1-6’2. I just hope they don’t pick someone extremely safe. They need to go for a home run.

[OldDutchChip]

1 hour ago, Mateo3xm said:

So a prospect that’s really seems to be flying under the radar is Artamonov. I don’t want him at 13 but he’s 6th all time for U18 players in the KHL. Between Tarasanko and daniil But with 23pts. He’s the first 17 year old khl player to score 4pts in a game as well. He’s not huge but he’s stocky at 5’11 200lbs

That’s a great argument my friend!

you did spell tarasenko wrong!

I expected better from you

But silliness aside - 

no, 13th pick should only be used in a trade package, as our needs now are immediate help and not grooming another prospect (we have plenty of those)

cheers 🍻 

[B1GKappa97]

If Catton miraculously falls to #13 and we pass on him because he’s not 6’ I’m gonna riot in the streets!

[Willy the poor boy]

I don't know much about any of these guys, but I really don't think Yakemchuker is gonna be there at 13. I think Iginla will be and I hope like hell they pass on him. Seems a lot of the steam around him is his old man. I wouldn't be betting that will carry over. 

[B1GKappa97]

Just now, Willy the poor boy said:

I don't know much about any of these guys, but I really don't think Yakemchuker is gonna be there at 13. I think Iginla will be and I hope like hell they pass on him. Seems a lot of the steam around him is his old man. I wouldn't be betting that will carry over. 

Legacy traits. He’s good in his own right as well. Dobberprospects compares him to Wyatt Johnson and has him 6th overall.

I doubt he makes it to 13 honestly, he’s probably gone in the top-10.

[mnfaninnc]

1 hour ago, B1GKappa97 said:

If Catton miraculously falls to #13 and we pass on him because he’s not 6’ I’m gonna riot in the streets!

It isn't because Catton isn't 6', it's because he's 163. Adding 35 lbs. on him is a big ask. He'll fill out some, but he'll have to lift his way into an NHL ready body.

[mnfaninnc]

Still hoping we somehow end up with Cayden Lindstrom. I think he'd be a franchise changer.

[Burnt Toast]

3 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

If we somehow got 2 first round picks

I’m in on this with the depth of this year’s draft. Trade back, grab Solberg, and pick up  another player in the first round. I’m not sure what the ask is but we still have a lot of holes to fill. Definitely going to be a very good player at 13. Maximize that value. I know 2025 is a big season but 2027 is the year we should be looking for max SC fuel. 

[Protec]

3 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

If Catton miraculously falls to #13 and we pass on him because he’s not 6’ I’m gonna riot in the streets!

He kinda reminds me of Barzal a little bit. 

[bisopher]

2 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

Legacy traits. He’s good in his own right as well. Dobberprospects compares him to Wyatt Johnson and has him 6th overall.

I doubt he makes it to 13 honestly, he’s probably gone in the top-10.

I personally don't think there's any chance at all Iginla makes it past Calgary at 9.  He might go higher, but the Flames won't pass on him.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

5 hours ago, Mateo3xm said:

I’d actually be happier if they picked Michael Hage over a couple of them. In the last like 15 games of the year he was at around 2 pts per game. He’s a great skater, playmaker, goal scorer and has high iq. He’s a true center and between 6’1-6’2.

When I first mentioned Hage here, he was being talked about as someone in the 20s of the 1st round, but he has been climbing in some forums. I'm definitely not opposed to him as the selection, perhaps over Helenius, but it feels like he may go just outside the top 15.

He was injured the prior year, and had a bit of a slow start this season, but he really finished strong and showed why he would have been highly successful in the WHL had he gone there. Hage going to Michigan could be a great place for him to develop for a year or two before joining an NHL team.

[Imyourhuckleberry]

4 hours ago, Willy the poor boy said:

Iginla will be and I hope like hell they pass on him. Seems a lot of the steam around him is his old man. I wouldn't be betting that will carry over. 

Iginla was more productive than Beckett Sennecke and he's been suggested as a top 10 pick.  Both were outscored on their own teams by older players, but both had very strong playoff runs.  I'd probably put both ahead of Eiserman.

I don't think the steam is totally due to his father, but that certainly could elevate him a little bit given that he'll carry some of the physical attributes.  It's his offensive skill, particularly shooting that will get him drafted though.

I think it will be hard for Calgary to pass on him because Tij Iginla will be an NHL player, selected by a team shortly after them if they pass, and if the guy they get isn't as good, their fans will be haunted by the decision--particularly if he ends up on a team within their division and becomes a prolific scorer.

[B1GKappa97]

8 hours ago, mnfaninnc said:

It isn't because Catton isn't 6', it's because he's 163. Adding 35 lbs. on him is a big ask. He'll fill out some, but he'll have to lift his way into an NHL ready body.

He's only 18. It's not that big of an ask. It'll be another 3 years before he's got a shot at the NHL but he could easily get to around 180lbs by that point if he's dedicated enough in the weight room and cares more about hitting the NHL quickly than keeping his beach body.

[Fezig]

11 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

If Catton miraculously falls to #13 and we pass on him because he’s not 6’ I’m gonna riot in the streets!

I'd kinda like to see that happen. Only because I've never seen a one man riot before. I'll bring the popcorn.

[TCMooch]

Can’t wait to find out who we get! I love the draft!

[Will D. Ness]

9 hours ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

I think it will be hard for Calgary to pass on him because Tij Iginla will be an NHL player, selected by a team shortly after them if they pass, and if the guy they get isn't as good, their fans will be haunted by the decision--particularly if he ends up on a team within their division and becomes a prolific scorer.

If they actually do pass, shouldn't it be a red flag?  

[B1GKappa97]

4 hours ago, Fezig said:

I'd kinda like to see that happen. Only because I've never seen a one man riot before. I'll bring the popcorn.

OCCUPY THE X!!! 

[Imyourhuckleberry]

51 minutes ago, Will D. Ness said:

If they actually do pass, shouldn't it be a red flag?  

Maybe if they go with another forward? But not sure I would call it a red flag.

The current management might simply believe another player is the better prospect in their scouting evaluations. A top 10 selection isn't something you want to get wrong and if they think someone else projects to another level of player, it's their job to optimize that rather than worrying about the family ties.

No idea how it will play out. Iginla is going in the top 16, it's just a matter of where. The fact that some draft rankings have him squarely in the 9/10 range of best available players makes it a pretty good bet Calgary adds him.

I guess if they still have Jerome Iginla in a special advisor role, and they don't select him, it could be viewed as a red flag by other teams, but I wouldn't necessarily view it as a major strike against his future success, just a really high vote of confidence for whoever they might select(I still think it will be Tij).

[mnfaninnc]

6 hours ago, B1GKappa97 said:

He's only 18. It's not that big of an ask. It'll be another 3 years before he's got a shot at the NHL but he could easily get to around 180lbs by that point if he's dedicated enough in the weight room and cares more about hitting the NHL quickly than keeping his beach body.

17 pounds in 3 years is most likely his fill out weight. I still think it'll be too light and he'll end up being too weak. Speed is a great thing to have, but we haven't had great playoff success with speed (such as Zucker being completely shut down). Then, it's more about battle and the bigger guys have more of an advantage in that arena. 

I always thought the goal was to win 4 7 game series after the regular season, not to win the President's trophy. Catton helps with the President's trophy, a larger body who can skate and has skill helps with the Stanley Cup.

[mnfaninnc]

I've suggested move up pretty much since the end of the season. But the option of moving down is also there. With who off the board (probably a collection of players) would a move down be a better move? 

For me, if Lindstrom, Silayev, Yakemchuk, Dickinson, and Mich St. guy are off the board, I think a look down might be a consideration. Who are your must haves guys?

[Will D. Ness]

1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said:

I guess if they still have Jerome Iginla in a special advisor role, and they don't select him, it could be viewed as a red flag by other teams, but I wouldn't necessarily view it as a major strike against his future success, just a really high vote of confidence for whoever they might select(I still think it will be Tij).

If Calgary passes at #9, I'm thinking we probably should pass at #13.  

(I don't think they will pass either)