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Red River Gopher Provisional Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 This seems like as good a place as any to ask this, considering the article addresses BG and player movement etc... a coworker today noted that she's heard rumblings of Kaprizov being traded to the Red Wings. This would seem silly to me overall from several aspects, especially given he's arguably one of if not the most popular player on the team. I can't find anything to corroborate this online so figured I'd check in with you all here to see if there's any smoke with this flame? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Your co-worker is full of BS. DRW might have the prospect capital to make another big move, but I don't see them trading for another big-time winger after getting/extending Alex DeBrincat via trade. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red River Gopher Provisional Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Thanks Tony- I can't wait to tell her that lol 😉 Seriously though, been reading for a while here and appreciate the info and articles you all are putting out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just keep my name out of it, haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Unless the Wings want to trade Larkin and like 2-3 1st rounders, I wouldn't even know what reporter would even publish that rumor. Kaprizov isn't going anywhere anytime soon. He has two years to figure out what this team is going to be, not get pawned off at earliest convenience. I mean, I love me some Brock Faber, but I don't need him to be the face of the franchise just yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 23 minutes ago, Red River Gopher said: This seems like as good a place as any to ask this, considering the article addresses BG and player movement etc... a coworker today noted that she's heard rumblings of Kaprizov being traded to the Red Wings. This would seem silly to me overall from several aspects, especially given he's arguably one of if not the most popular player on the team. I can't find anything to corroborate this online so figured I'd check in with you all here to see if there's any smoke with this flame? I can't imagine why the Wild at this point would even consider trading KK. He's the most important piece to fulfilling Leo's most important goal of filling the seats. Attendance would surely take a big hit. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The only way Kaprizov's gonna move is if he wants out. To that point, I have a hard time believing Detroit would be a preferred spot, unless he thinks Fedorov is still playing there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Quote Sometimes, a top pick is more valuable to the organization than the revenue from two or three playoff games. Guerin thought he was creating stability by signing players to long-term contracts. Instead, he created chaos. Well, look at it this way: Who's our best non-goalie prospect right now? Danila Yurov by far, right? And where did we draft Danila Yurov? That's right, pick #24. So even though we made the playoffs that season, we still landed a potential superstar top-6 forward.. Its literally having your cake and eating it too. Ek is our best Center we've had since Staal. Where did we draft him? Pick #20. Point being you don't NEED a top pick to find future franchise cornerstones. And honestly, in this draft, even if they miss out on a lotto pick and end up missing the playoffs and picking in the late-teens, that looks to be a sweet spot to land a top-6 forward with size based on Wheeler's and Pronman's prospect rankings or even a top-4 defensive defenseman with size in a guy like Charlie Elick. So its great to dream about the top picks, but this draft is pretty loaded anyway. We should still be able to land a contributor regardless of where we are selecting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Faber was a mid second round pick, so I dunno if draft position per round means anything anyway. All that matters is having more darts on the board, and Guerin has done one thing right: keeping the big ones in the drawer. Edited February 20 by Citizen Strife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 You don't need that top pick... but it helps a lot. You're not relying on teams making a mistake (Yurov could've easily been taken by Pick 24; the Wild had to trade into the fifth round to get Kaprizov). You're also getting near-immediate impact if you hit on a top-10 pick. Look how long it took for JEEK to become an impact player. Minnesota could use impact sooner rather than later. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 12 minutes ago, Citizen Strife said: Faber was a mid second round pick, so I dunno if draft position per round means anything anyway. All that matters is having more darts on the board, and Guerin has done one thing right: keeping the big ones in the drawer. Except the Wild drafted Ryan O'Rourke instead of him. Agree that having more darts is good, but having higher picks is going to help, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, Tony Abbott said: Except the Wild drafted Ryan O'Rourke instead of him. Agree that having more darts is good, but having higher picks is going to help, too. Thank you for pointing out what I assumed was obvious. Apparantly it's not obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Strife Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 My point was LA didn't need every Top 5 pick either, not that we picked Faber instead of O'Rourke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Verified Member Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Wanting to win, loving the Wild, and being a good locker room guy is great, and everything. But, I’d rather have great hockey players than great cheerleaders. Seems like that would help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Abbott Administrator Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I'm just saying: hard to point out that you don't need high draft picks because of Brock Faber when the Wild had to trade an 80-point guy to get him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Great article. Bill has done some good stuff especially on the margins. Maroon , bogs , Gus and even reaves did bring some mojo the team needed at time. He also did good on a franchise type trade of fiala. However the zucker trade I think he could have done better but that’s not knowable unless you were privy to other teams offers. I’ll give him a pass on zucker. Bill definitely has a better eye for talent than previous GMs . So he has done good stuff but he’s also done some really stupid stuff like the extensions and blind loyalty to mediocre friends. Being good at trading 7 th round picks for leauge minimum vets is nice but doesn’t win cups. Trading a superstar for financial reasons and getting a fair return is what you expect from a gm. So he has done some good but I think the bad out weighs it. You can screw up trading 7 th round picks. No big deal. When you start screwing up contracts it is a big deal and hurts the franchise for years . I don’t see him having any inclination of managing cap in a responsible way . The goose deal should have been a warning sign . Then he did the crazy Fred deal that wasn’t defensible with those clauses or term. Finally we got the wave of extensions this past spring that were not needed or once again defensible. He obviously isn’t learning when it comes to contracts and is likely to get us into some Fletcher kinda contacts that set this franchise back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Weird lines tonight Rossi with Vinchenzo and Linguini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Midzy makes sure his jersey is adjusted before he throws down with Stanley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy the poor boy Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, Willy the poor boy said: Midzy makes sure his jersey is adjusted before he throws down with Stanley. The funniest part was it looked like Stanley waited for him to adjust it. Lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelSnipeCelly Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Willy the poor boy said: Weird lines tonight Rossi with Vinchenzo and Linguini. I thought the same thing. Why was Rossi demoted to the 4th line tonight instead of either Gaudreau or Johansson, who have been mostly invisible for weeks now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewterschmidt Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Tony Abbott said: Brock Faber when the Wild had to trade an 80-point guy to get him. BLAMO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imyourhuckleberry Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 hours ago, Tony Abbott said: I'm just saying: hard to point out that you don't need high draft picks because of Brock Faber when the Wild had to trade an 80-point guy to get him. Wasn't that for Faber and Ohgren. Ohgren has picked things up after a slow start coming back from injury--he's rated #3 in the Wild prospect pool behind Yurov & the Wall. That pick probably should have been Yurov, but both players look like they could help the Wild in a couple of years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnfaninnc Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Imyourhuckleberry said: Wasn't that for Faber and Ohgren. Ohgren has picked things up after a slow start coming back from injury--he's rated #3 in the Wild prospect pool behind Yurov & the Wall. That pick probably should have been Yurov, but both players look like they could help the Wild in a couple of years. Yeah, I think Ohgren and Yurov will always be considered connected in that draft. We could afford to swing for Yurov since we picked the safe choice in Ohgren just a little earlier. If we don't trade Fiala, we don't get Ohgren and likely don't get Yurov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1GKappa97 Verified Member Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 12 minutes ago, mnfaninnc said: Yeah, I think Ohgren and Yurov will always be considered connected in that draft. We could afford to swing for Yurov since we picked the safe choice in Ohgren just a little earlier. If we don't trade Fiala, we don't get Ohgren and likely don't get Yurov. I think we still take Yurov. Brackett clearly liked him and other teams were clearly nervous about the Russia factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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