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  2. Corey had his chance to come here and he said no thanks I'll pass. The Wild being an unattractive destination is a real thing. #97
  3. Troy Terry for Marco Rossi that is all you should really consider. Rossi at 23 scores as much as Terry at 28. You would assume that Terry is developed and isn't going to get much better. His scoring could go up with different line mates but for the most part he is at his peak in development. Rossi it is assumed that he is going to get better in the next few years. Let's say ten to fifteen points better. That would put him at a level higher than Terry plus Marco is a legit center.
  4. At this point who isn't an option to be traded in the prospect pool? It's great to have a top prospect pool but that only means your organization isn't ready to win a Stanley Cup. Florida rank 32, Edmonton rank 29, Dallas 31, Carolina 16. In fact every team in the playoffs last year except for Minnesota and Washington were in the bottom half of the league in prospect pool rankings. Washington was 9th and Minnesota is 2nd. Nestled around those two teams were playoff juggernauts like Buffalo, Anaheim, San Jose, Chicago, Seattle to name a few. Look at the playoff teams that go deep in the playoffs. The rosters are made up of journeymen that have hundreds of playoff games under their belts. Often those players have been to a cup final or two. Heidt, Haight, Lambos, Wallstedt, Hlavaj, Ohgren, the kids playing in Europe, if you can make your roster better right now then do it.
  5. How about we stand pat and roll with the young guys. Win the cup in ‘26 when they develop together and stay together.
  6. All he does is make it to the Stanley Cup finals. At this point I would be satisfied with the Wild going to the Cup Finals with Corey Perry. Then we can work on winning it after that.
  7. Minnesota does have this disease of keeping players because they are Wild players also bringing home grown players back to the state. The way that the management should look at things is everyone is tradeable for the right price. Spurgeon could go for two prospects and a starter. Brodin could go for a younger starter. Kirill could go for two elite players plus a pick. All those possibilities are out the window because we have to keep them because they are Wild players. BS it is a business it's about time that the Wild look at it as a business not an entertainment option for the Minnesota fans. Win a Stanley Cup and that would satisfy the fans.
  8. Agreed, Tavares can sleep through the season and score 45 to 65 points. Put him next to Kirill and he would do OK. I don't like the idea that he made 11 million last year. I doubt he is worth that much. But if they could pull off signing him and Boeser that would drastically change the future of this team. I don't think it's possible. If they could trade Brodin or Spurgeon and free up some money then Tavares and Boeser could show up and Rossi could go to Buffalo for Peterka. Instantly the team is drastically different.
  9. Yesterday
  10. That might be true, but Rossi played with as much 1st line talent as anyone on Florida likely did. Kaprizov or Boldy scored at least 12 goals where Rossi was credited with points, and they had the primary assist on at least 17 goals where Rossi was credited with points. Those 2 were credited with 14 secondary assists on goals where Rossi got points. Zuccarello also has a heavy presence in the scoring logs for Rossi. Rossi had just 14 points on the season where one of Kaprizov, Boldy, or Zuccarello were not involved in the soring logs. Rossi is a good all around player, but he was often playing with players not anywhere near AHL level.
  11. Maybe you are right, but Rossi has only played two years. I believe that Rossi has a chance for a higher ceiling than Bennett, but he has had one average year and a good year. I think Bennett is valued higher than Rossi is at this time, if you believe rumor mills that teams were going to offer Bennett 9-10M. I think if Rossi hadn't missed a year and had put together a couple of good years, he probably would have been signed or traded for by now and gotten his 7x7 contract.
  12. I don't think there is much relationship between what Bennet gets and what Rossi will get. Bennet has been in the NHL for 11 years and only been over 50 (51 this year) points one time. Rossi has a 60 point season in just his third year. It has taken a Stanly Cup roster to get Bennet over 40 points. Rossi has done it twice on a team with more AHL players than 1st line talent. They bring very different value to a team.
  13. Brock had that production for exactly ONE year in his career. The rest of his time has been fairly meh. He isn't elite. In a Rossi for Peterka trade, Buffalo should be giving additional assets because Rossi is a center and has a more rounded game. We need ELITE talent. Maybe its Petersson... or maybe we should wait for the trade deadline or next year.
  14. Yeah, if anything the other teams saved the Wild management from themselves
  15. At this point adding Brock B. is probably the biggest move available. Keep Rossi, see how the new ELC players perform, and open your presents at the Trade Deadline.
  16. Unless the Wild give up a lot of assets, and they don't have many picks in the cupboard, they aren't going to get much. July 1st is going to feel more like a New Year's hangover. Great GM's, that know what they are doing, make power moves. Something like Kaprizov for two legit top six players. It will never happen because MN is too loyal to players, but that's the kind of thing that moves the needle. See Matthew Tkachuk for reference. Old, slow, tired vets aren't going to get you very far, but people keep buying tickets so why should they change?
  17. I think 6-7M per year for 7 years would have gotten done if Billy even slightly likes Rossi. The cap increased over the last year versus some of the comps. GMs usually will go a little higher for 7 years knowing the cap is likely to keep going up and because the team has control over the player during some of his UFA years. This should be the approach the Wild takes with its young players (Ohgren comes to mind) instead of to keep trading them, especially given the difficulty that it has in attracting FA. Always having a couple of players on ELCs and a couple of more on their first contract after the ELC allows for TDL acquisitions and/or a big FA signing to put the team over the top for contention. This is where too much money in the bottom 6 really frustrates me. These players are blocking cheaper ELC players from NHL development (only so much can be learned in other leagues) and taking up cap space that could be used for TDL acquisitions and/or a big FA. Based on Rossi’s two year production and the Wild’s need for centers, I blame Billy for not drafting another player if he can’t get over Rossi’s size. He was 5’9” when Billy drafted him. I hope I am wrong, but I think he will be traded and the return will be underwhelming.
  18. Tavares would be a solid addition, and someone who is routinely over 55% on faceoffs while also chipping in 25-35 goals(estimated). I could see the Wild adding him and possibly trading Rossi for a promising wing. There are other centers in their pipeline and they could be adding another 2nd rounder there soon. That doesn't seem too crazy.
  19. So now Billy wants a gold mine for his personal lump of coal. Call him soft publicly dump him on the fourth line in playoffs and lose. That Billy he sure knows his way around a 3D negotiations 101 chess board! The Rossi/Wild relationship is broke and Rossi wants his ring back. Other GM's must get off the phone with Billy and just go wtf?? 🤣
  20. I am confused on the trade offer here, with the article mentioning so many names we could move. Is it suggesting we trade Rossi, Spurg, Chisolm, Spacek, and Freddy, for Terry, two depth pieces for Iowa and a 2nd round pick? Or was it just Rossi and Spurge for that and we could move the others? Either way, seems a lot to give up.
  21. Shortly before the start of the 2024-25 season, Minnesota Wild owner Craig Leipold had big hopes for this offseason. The Wild would be freed from the strictest part of Zach Parise and Ryan Suter’s contract buyout, and could finally find a way to add to a team with a legit superstar in Kirill Kaprizov. Leipold said nobody will throw as much money at Kaprizov as the Wild when negotiating a contract extension. However, he had another sound bite that reminded fans of the day they opened a Nintendo 64. “Next July 1 is going to be like Christmas,” Leipold said. “We’re going to have money available. We’re going to have the resources available to do what we need to get back to Wild hockey. And we’re looking forward to that.” Another first-round playoff exit later, July 1 is just over a week away, and Bill Guerin looks like Clark Griswold. After months of touting an epic summer, Guerin’s offseason plans may have gone up in flames faster than the Griswold family Christmas tree. But as he executes his five-year plan, Guerin must find a way to save the Wild’s “Christmas,” and he has to do it in the next few weeks. If Wild fans look under the tree today, they’d find the haul underwhelming. Minnesota brought back Marcus Johansson as a one-year, $800,000 insurance policy. However, he remains on the second line until they find an upgrade. There’s been more talk about getting rid of players (i.e., trading Marco Rossi) than there has been about adding them in a weak free agent class. Even the Wild’s rivals have contributed to ruining Christmas Morning. The Colorado Avalanche overpaid Brock Nelson, the Dallas Stars kept Matt Duchene, and Jonathan Toews signed with the Winnipeg Jets on Friday. The free agent class has continued to get shallower as July 1 draws closer. Sam Bennett drunkenly shouted that he’s staying in Florida moments after winning his second straight Stanley Cup. Brad Marchand also feels likely to remain with the Panthers or sign somewhere other than Minnesota. That may have Guerin as nervous as Griswold when the in-laws came to town. Still, it’s important to remember that Griswold wound up saving Christmas by the end of the movie. Guerin’s challenge will be to do it without getting the SWAT team involved, but that’s become a challenge with how free agency has played out. The best avenue to improve the team would be through the trade market. Rossi has become the Wild’s biggest trade chip after reportedly turning down a five-year, $25 million deal in the middle of last season. While he would like something closer to the $7 million Matt Boldy is making right now, the Wild don’t seem interested in that number and tipped their hand when they demoted Rossi to the fourth line during last year’s playoffs. On Friday, Russo noted that the Vancouver Canucks have offered the 15th overall pick in next week’s draft for Rossi. Still, that’s not enough for a team that wants to get out of the first round of the playoffs for the first time since 2014-15 and play into May or possibly June. Perhaps a bigger deal for Buffalo Sabres wing JJ Peterka is the answer, but the Wild would have to give up several pieces to get there. That could lead to an unexpected reunion with Rossi, but it could also backfire if Rossi chooses to sign an offer sheet as a restricted free agent. Even if the Wild didn't send Rossi to the fourth line as a demotion, he was still playing behind Freddy Gaudreau by the end of the Vegas Golden Knights series, perhaps signaling an inevitable split. If the Wild can’t find a deal in the trade market, they may have to go back to the free agency well. A weak class to begin with is now headlined by soon-to-be 35-year-old John Tavares, who just spent his past few years playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs, who also can't get out of the first round of the playoffs. Signing Minnesota native Brock Boeser would also tug at Wild fans' heartstrings. Still, even with his favorable age (28) and production (40 goals, 73 points in 2023-24), he needs the players around him to set him up for success. That's an issue for a team built more on toughness than skill, but it could also lead the Wild down a different path. Perhaps the issue isn’t that the Wild don’t have enough stars but just need the right pieces around them. Would it be wise to throw a ton of money at Boeser or Mitch Marner just to make a splash? Or would it be better to sign lower-tier free agents to add depth and hold the hammer when a bigger move presents itself? People may have scoffed when the Panthers acquired Marchand and defenseman Seth Jones at the trade deadline, but both became major pieces to their repeat run. Other signings, like former Wild defenseman Dmitry Kulikov, weren’t lauded at the time but helped Florida find a loophole in the system. We don’t know which players may be willing to come to Minnesota (and forgo the tax bracket that comes with it). Still, we know that Guerin can’t afford to stand pat. He’s in too deep when it comes to the “Christmas” narrative, and Leipold’s declaration of adding “one or two really good players” feels more like a directive than a suggestion. The Wild don’t have much time to figure it out, but Guerin needs to find his big, red bow and present it to a team that many feel should be on the rise.
  22. if Ohgren is included in the package for a win-now player - then he should definitely be made available. And that is the right approach given where we are at. If Kap is signed - he has 5 peak years of prime (best case but maybe he'll stretch it to 7) and we need to maximize his peak. If Ohgren plays like another Tuch or Peter Forsberg - good for him. But you have to take chances, and bring the players needed to align with Kap. Otherwise, what are we really waiting for....then trade Kap and Boldy, accumulate more picks and youth and play all of them.
  23. If he is worth less somewhere else, that definitely would not help Rossi and his agent in terms of what Rossi is worth
  24. The Wild haven't devalued Rossi. The market has revealed it.
  25. Less. He is a perfect compliment to their star players. If he leaves expect a significant drop in productivity.
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